sheilaforever

I'm happy that occasionally this show is still about fashion, like when Ellen von Unwerth guest starred. This was a pretty cool cameo. Due to budget restraints, they just cannot pull a big fashion show twice a year these days. Taht said:even in the past we had backstage view fashion shows pr "previews" in Eric's office or so. Both could be done.

I knew it. I guess: THAT is the twist… however, the show will lose interest in Finn in max 12 months…

For those LOVING the Y&R crossovers: Don Diamont appeared as Brad Carlton in #1522-1524. There have been clips on YouTube for ages but the exact length of his first B&B stint (16 years before debuting as Bill Spencer Jr.) was unknown (at least) to me: April 19-April 21, 1993.

@ChickenNuggetz92As always: thank you for your dedication, tech-savvy-ness and time/money that you spend on providing these of a kind treasure troves!

Awesome promo indeed!

Just my two cents for a quick clean-up for some data space: Folders 1993 -> January till June could be deleted because of the Videoland uploads. Yes, they do have subtitles in them ut are much higher quality than the previous and partial uploads in those folders...

I think so: Ridge is not Eric's son, Thorne had only Aly, Kristen never had a bio child and Felicia had only Dino who has not been around since 2006!?

+1 I Loved Aly. It was a terrile decision to kill her off - in such a wasteful manner.

Soooooo excited for this. I've only seen clips (of all of it) but not the real build-up...

The whole process of dividing Thorne & Macy was not very flattering for either character. The shared apartment part was already pretty far-fetched considering that Karen the virgin came from Starlight Texas and was probably not used to such elaborate living arrangements and Thorne used to be stand-up good guy. Then, Thorne and Macy kept beating around the bush for months when Thorne mistook Macy hugging Jake for an actual affair. Then, Macy had the brilliant idea to send a tape to Thorne - instead of talking to him. I guess, someone told Macy that letters get intercepted in LA (Hello, Brooke!) all the time, so she felt super smart about it. Karen knows about the true story for the separation between Macy and Thorne but keeps it for herself after Macy goes full b*tch mode on. Perfectly fine, yet Karen is supposed to be this lovely person and therefore acts rather OOC. Macy is that desperate that she goes on a bender due to Thorne’s rejection (but was singing for Sly at Bikini Bar just two episodes prior)… While the story is quite the elaborate plot and makes attempts to add reasoning to all these rather confusing behaviours, nevertheless it made ALL of these characters very un-like-able for me.

I only watched those few Y&R episodes available in The Vault from January 1993 so far which I listed a few pages back. There, it was etablished that Lauren did not really love Scott (anymore) but decided to reunite with him for Scotty's sake. The relationship between Scott (who always came off as a non-character to me BTW) and Lauren felt very cool. Lauren kept bitching about Sheila had done to her while Scott wanted to move on (for storyline's sake, I guess ;-)). Add: Brad being very handsome and Lauren being Lauren - so of course they had to find out if chemistry is still there and have sex. In a coincidence only happing on soaps Sheila who is living in LA permanently and has hardly been in Genoa City the past 8 months - was JUST in Genoa City at the time and JUST at this very moment in Lauren's suite when Brad and Lauren had their 1993 one-night-stand to snap some pictures.

!Vielen Dank!

Karen was a creation of Bill Bell who did not step down as headwriter from B&B until the middle of Karen's original run. When JJ left again, it might have been her choice again because she was just not into acting that much and wanted to become a fulltime writer...

B&B has been getting a lot of SOD covers lately…

True!

Ah ok. Thanks for correcting me.

Thanks! The part of Tom directing at Dynasty is a cop-out - unless she is directing the rest of the show's current season because she has NOT done so since an episode that aired August (!) 2021. That said, I'm not against the rather loose on/off-appearances from Katie because Tom is always a joy to watch, yet the show is not in desperate need to have Katie around 24/7.

I'm curious what is going with Heather Tom. She has been absent for so long - also for the anniversary parties and KKL's private events it seems.

I couldn't agree more about Sally. As for Caroline: I also really liked that she had a career in journalism. Sure, she only got the chance due to daddy, but it added something valuable to the character for the couple of months where they heavily used Eye on Fashion as well as Valerie as her sidekick. This was of course still in the days where Brooke has a respectable career as a chemist. For the past 10 years Brooke has been walking around LA minding everyone's business but no longer seems to be nvolved with real business which is a shame.

On German Free-TV only the full years 1986-1987 were shown. It then moved to Pay-TV for the following 1988-1989 episodes. On another Pay TV channel the Y&R then returned with episodes starting September 1995 until Fall 1997. Most of these episodes were never re-broadcast. The episodes in the Vault are from a (rare) rerun cycle. Y&R made a surprise comeback to broadcast television in conjunction with B&B with Sheila's 2005 return. It was cancelled after 100 episodes, though.

Didn’t recognize her, BUT she was on Falcon Crest for two seasons (1988-1990) which of course aired in CBS, so your eyes probably did not deceive you. IMO, B&B was amazing as soon as Taylor came back from the dead in May 2005, had a breakout fall with the legendary Kay Chancellor visit and Stephanie kicking Eric in the groin and Felicia’s cancer return. It probably fizzled sometime in 2006 when Brad Bell undid Felicia dying and paired her with Antonio Sabato Jr, Nick Marone going ballistic over Brooke modeling (a huuuuuge WTF exit story for Massimo Marone) and the very prominent arrival of NuDonna which was such a crappy nonstory. 2006 was painful to watch at times.

Bill Bell had loooooong and detailed story projections most of the time. The scab writers could always work on these outlines for at a couple of months before they had to invent their own storylines, so depending on the length of the strike it was not that noticeable. And I always thought it was interesting that many classic Bell show writers for the ad agency circles started around the late 80s and early 90s. Maybe they filled in during the strike and started their career back then.

Kristen's return was never intended to be about Kristen. She was plot device to anchor the Latin/HIV story. And I fully agree; I had no idea what a big character she used to be. Felicia's returns were always more on point albeit much briefer in comparision.

Have you been watching the crossover episodes as well? I always wanted to watch in synch but then got too greedy to wait out on the plentiful consecutive B&B uploads while Y&R is incomplete. But by the January 1993 episodes, I decided to watch Y&R along (at least the Sheila/Lauren/Molly/Scott scenes) to have the full experience. Boy, it is STELLAR TV. EDIT: I'll label the episodes available here: 1993-January 7, 8, 12 (partially used as flashbacks in #1459), 13 (partially used as flashbacks in #1459), 14 ...

By 1993 Karen's story was mostly over... She's getting some PSA type material and romance with Connor, but nothing much comes out of it. Her airtime will decrease dramatically if I remember right. As for Connor: I only REALLY remember his first few months (major BEEF with Ridge and being Brooke's attorney during the fight for BeLieF) before he was insta-fixed up with Karen and started to fizzle. In my memory, the bigest "role" Connor then had was to play the same sex version of Murder She Wrote's Jessica Fletcher and Seth Hazlitt with his significant other being Dr. Warwick. I swear they spent YEARS sitting in either character's office talking about Taylor, Brooke and/or Sheila. That said: I found Connor likeable but very bland because he was simply under-developed as character.