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i have it on good authority that goutman wanted to bring beverlee for the finale, but was overruled by pgp.

as i recall, it was a boarding house, so it would have generated income. i don’t recall the reardon’s backstory. perhaps the family fell on hard times after the father died?

With all due respect, none of this is about ATWT or the Helen Wagner tribute. If that was so terrible, why use it as a bar that the JZ tribute needed to clear? was just making a comparison. no need to get your knickers in a twist. and for the record, this was the conversation ‘steep curve’ referenced. I didn't think that was too bad, although I may be grading on a curve because of other memorials like Hal's that I found somewhat distasteful (mainly because they kept "joking" about how many children he had by various women)

marisa paven, who played max dubujak’s mother, chantal, has died. here’s a free link. marisa pavan obit

I didn't think that was too bad, although I may be grading on a curve because of other memorials like Hal's that I found somewhat distasteful (mainly because they kept "joking" about how many children he had by various women). that must be one steep curve. while hal’s memorial might have been ‘somewhat distasteful,’ blowing through nancy’s (and helen’s) in a single episode — no on-screen funeral, no returning family members — and only a couple of weeks before the show's final episode… sorry — while gh’s effort may seem inadequate to some fans, it’s eons better than the insult ‘world turns fans had thrown in our faces.

you want to see something ‘practically over before it began,’ have a look at christopher goutman tried to pass off as a ‘tribute’ to helen wagner — the last original cast member who was on the show for virtually its entire 54 year run. at least gh made an effort — inadequate perhaps — but an effort nevertheless. helen wagner ‘tribute’

yes — his mother and brother. after he died, his nephew released a few of the notes he left to people magazine, one of which said something to the effect that “every aspect of his life was tinged with sadness.” it sounded as though he had been depressed for some time.

nor had i. appreciate it!

the one before ross married blake, right. i’ve always wondered who wrote that perfect scene. thanks for sharing.

atwt: kim and susan.

just read about andre braugher’s passing. of course, there was ‘homicide,’ but i absolutely loved him in ‘men of a certain age,’ ironically, a show that ended long before its time.

free link: ellen holly’s ny times obit

free link ellen holly’s ny times obit

according to online sources, kavovit left ‘world turns in october 1991. the role wasn’t recast until model john howard’s short run in 1996. scott holroyd took over in 2001 until replaced by roger howarth in 2003.

i remember her well from a touching episode of l&o svu. lois smith played her mother, who was beside herself when friedman’s character became pregnant.

rarely mentioned, but crucial; from wikipedia: “Overall, the first half of the 1980s saw a revival in Guiding Light's popularity, with a top-five placing achieved in most years and even a brief dethroning of then-powerhouse General Hospital from the #1 ratings spot for three consecutive weeks. However, as the decade progressed, the ratings slipped a bit, although it was still performing solidly. In 1995, beginning with CBS flagship station WCBS-TV in New York, Guiding Light began airing at 10 a.m. Eastern time in several markets. Its once-solid performance began to crumble by the mid-1990s, when its ratings sunk as low as ninth place out of ten.[25] However, during the controversial clone storyline in 1998, the ratings experienced a brief resurgence, moving up to fifth for many weeks that summer. Nielsen reported Guiding Light had 5 million viewers in 1999. Up until its CBS finale in 2009, stations in a number of markets aired Guiding Light in the morning either at 9 or 10 a.m. local time: Miami, Chicago, Baltimore, Boston, Detroit, New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Dallas-Fort Worth, Orlando, Atlanta, Columbia, SC, Fort Wayne, IN, South Bend, IN, Portland, OR, Quad Cities, Buffalo, Reno, Portland, ME, Milwaukee, Albany, NY, and Scranton-Wilkes Barre, PA. Guiding Light aired at 12 noon local time in Honolulu, Hawaii. In Savannah, GA, it aired at 4:00 pm local time.”

a freebie from today’s ny times: i survived guiding light

and, according to her imdb page, ‘love of life’ (1967-8) and ‘secret storm’ (1973-4). not surprising — so very many ny stage actors were on soaps.

people: her name is ‘irna,’ not ‘irma!’

atwt: chris hughes should have been the ultimate legecy character. but the combination of multiple recasts, inconsistent storylines — his ongoing conflicts with his father made absolutely no sense — made that impossible.

thank you both for these astute observations. for years, i’ve struggled to articulate why i prefered the p&g soaps, i had always described as a styalistic preference, but never realized it was the actual day-to-day writing. and, as donna noted, while cbs pretty much left bill bell to his own devices, the network felt that the p&g soaps needed the network’s “help.” have that on the record from lucy johnson! of course, that help led both gl and ‘world turns straight down the [!@#$%^&*]-shute.

i recall seeing it on youtube a while back, but can’t find it. but, i do know it’s in the paley center archives. don’t know how to access it, though.

here’s a freebie link to that ny times article: as the world turns interrupted by kennedy shooting

lara parker of dark shadows has died. free link to ny times obit lara parker

agreed! that would have been something to see,