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i tuned in at the beginning of the 3rd set already knowing the outcome. plenty of suspense watching how this single game turned out, though.

not surprising. agnes nixon often talked about the freedom she had at abc compared to p&g. often wonder how irna might have approached vietman and other topical issues absent p&g. she was certainly aware of what was happening in the world.

I couldn't screenshot the PDF, but the median is $26, 276.00, which is just $6,000 over the poverty limit for a single person household in California. And, given that the average rent for a 1br in Los Angeles County is $2,850, a person would need to gross $9,500 a month just to qualify to rent an apartment. So, $40,000 annual salary is 65% below what one would need to survive in LA. Meanwhile, Bob Iger, CEO of Disney just signed a contract extension earning him 62 Million dollars, in salary alone, not counting stock or property. So, it is reasonable to expect that Disney could afford to pay actors for audition tapes thanks! averages can be deceptive, the median is more accurate. i knew it would be worse, but that is ridiculous! and yes, at the very least, the studios should be paying actors for auditions — and cover their expenses.

if $40,000 is the average salary, what i’d really like to know is the median. couldn’t find it online. does anyone know?

A part of me wishes they'd tried a Hal/Lucinda pairing in the '90s or '00s, although I know he never could have taken it. Still, imagine Barbara's face... now that would have been something to see! wonder if anyoone ever considered it? benjamin hendrickson once told me that hal and margo only became a thing because he and hillary smith started playing around in their scenes wondering if anyone would notice — and did they ever. i knew margo would always be with tom and hal with barbara. but, i would have been more than ok if hal and margo had wound up together.

that last scene, with terry lester, benjamin hendrickson, and elizabeth hubbard — all three gone — and of course, kathryn hays. as was so happy to see the scene between hal and lucinda in the courtroom — always wished they had more scenes together.

so, i’m visiting the metropolitan museum of art in the early 1990s and can’t remember where the bathrooms are. when i go to the information desk in the lobby, i stop short and think to myself, “what is nancy hughes doing at the met?” now, i know perfectly well that it was helen wagner, not nancy hughes. but could not form a thought or get a single word out of my mouth. my cousin thought i had lost my mind. helen had clearly been down this road before, and explained slowly and clearly, where the bathrooms were. a couple years later, i’m on the set interviewing actors for a piece. i had forgotten about the met when the publicist brought helen in. she looked at me, cocked her head and asked, “have we met before?” told her the story a nd we had a good laugh.

just watched the clip — thanks! interesting that eric braden didn’t join his fellow nominees for regis and kathy lee. guess he had a scheduling conflict.

were they less awful compared to what came in the final year? hard to say… but, yes, they really were as awful as their reputation.

thinking of martha. it’s a free link to the ny times. 3 convicted

i remember treat williams playing a former football player with dementia on l&o svu — heartbreaking performance. beth chamberin (beth on gl) played his wife. andre braugher was his denense attorney.

i didn’t find portrayal of ben warren on gl at all swarmy,

agreed that the writing for craig was atrocious in the final years. funny thing, though, about hunt block is that i really like him as ben warren on gl, when he did play the emotional layers. so i wonder if something else was going on. maybe what he was playing was closer to the vision chris goutman had for the character. after scott bryce was fired in 2008, he gave an interview to michael logan and described his relationship with goutman as “odd, and disconnected,” then talked about how dark the show had become and suggested that maybe he “didn’t fit into that vision.”

ita with everything you said. wanted to add: can only imagine what the budget must have been for this episode. 5 sets, which is not a lot, but i counted 25 characters, at least 20 on contract. those were the days…

excellent! how if georgia will just get its thumb out of its ass…

It's worth it! And pretty cheap. I posted way too many excerpts from it in the thread dedicated to it at the time and IIRC the author was not pleased with me. I only found that out much later, lol. I'm sorry, Jeff Giles! it is sooo worth it. that level of candor must have involved some adult beverages. also looking forward to the ryan’s hope oral history coming out in the fall.

I can't remember when exactly, but it gets to a point where Earl just does not appear for long periods of time. I'm not sure what Farley Granger's status with the show was by 1988. I like Farley's work on the show, he's very charming, but based on the way he was used, they should have just contained him to one story and then wrote him out at the end of the story. when granger joined atwt in 1986, his partner, robert calhoun, was the executive producer. calhoun left the show in 1988. wonder if that had anything to do with granger’s status?

THANK YOU!

all true — but kathryn hays was on atwt for 38 years, liz hubbard for 24. and not for nothing, ‘world turns and guiding light WERE ON CBS! and over the years those shows generated 10s, if not 100s of millions of $ for CBS. so one might think that would supersede the NEWS aspect of their passing.

today, cbs sunday morning mentioned the passing of jackie zeman. i have no quarrel with that. it’s just that the show never — NEVER — notes the passing of actors who were on p&g soaps for decades: kathryn hays, liz hubbard, jerry verdorn, lisa brown are the most recent ignored by the network. does cbs have a rule forbidding the show from acknowledging these actors?

pleased that both kathryn hays and jackie zeman rated obits in the ny times. absolutely shocked that la liz did not.

that’s my generation (though i have xfinity wireless:). and it’s not going to happen if reality, game, and true life crime shows continue to dominate the schedule. yes, they’re cheap to produce, but i have absolutely no interest in watching.

expect he would have been frustrated, but marland died in march 1993.

i’ve always believed that cbs vp for daytime, barbara bloom, had a lot to do with that — martha byrne, too. not for nothing, but both were replaced by actors who worked with bloom at abc. all part of the massive influx of former abc daytime actors who invaded oakdale in the final years, mostly playing characters not connected to the core families.

agreed! while i understood the need to bring more people in as writers, it never made any sense to me bringing in people who were so openly contemptuous. while i loved hunt block’s ben warren on guiding light, his version of craig was hogan’s misguided idea that what was wrong with ‘world turns was that the men were lacking ‘balls.’ and for jeanp, the person i’d really like to ask is courtney simon.