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Best/Worst Production Value Periods on Soaps
Someone online wrote that one of the sets from either Loving or The City became the set for the forst few seasons of The View. If true that living room set was layered and top tier!
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Well Plotted Soap Stories
DAYS- John & Marlena 1991-1991. Years of solid story beginning with Marlena's return from the dead, OG Roman's return, the quadrangle between Roman/Marlena/John/Isabella and the eventual affair. The payoff being the creation of evil Sami. Several plots like Mason Blanche were contained within the story, and seeds for the posession were being planted by about late '94. A geat example of a story leading to another without hitting a dead end. Y&R- Marge Cotrooke 1.0 , 1989-90. In 1989 the audience was given so much detail. Marge was shown changing her hair style, having apendix surgery to mimic Kay's pain, Clint taping Kay & Rex in the bedroom to help Marge match Katherine's sexual demeanor, testing a forged signature at the bank while impersonating Katherine. Soaps wouldn't go this far into deatil with a silly doppleganger plot these days. Despite the possible arguement that the plot was silly and may have dragged too long, great attention to detail was made in the beginning.
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B&B May 2022 Official Discussion Thread
John McCook still has the confidence to go shirtless at 77. His counterpart Victor on Y&R stopped doing that a while ago lol. I cannot recall any soap charachter that was still fooling around with yonger women -- or anything sex related -- near age 80.
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Characters that ATE their Soaps
Liam/Hope/Steffy B&B: the show has excessively pulled the couples apart and put them back together too many times for the audience (or at least myself) to care. The endless back and forth needs to stop. Moreover, Liam isn't in any way commanding as leading man to have two major female leads fight over him for a decade. Dallas, JR: could it be said that JR ate the show? I will say that I definitely Felt episodes were stronger when Bobby and Pam were the leads and JR was there a moral foil in the early years. I haven't seen much past Season 9 but apparently (correct me if I'm wrong) Hagman got producing credits, JR became more of the star, but he was also weaker as a charachter as he began to get beaten.
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B&B May 2022 Official Discussion Thread
Did Taylor attend the same Psychiatry school as Sharon on Y&R because...
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Does your soap have a "Red Swan", a s/l or phrase or character that makes you groan?
General Hospital and excessively saying "Shiloh" and "Wiley" every living second
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Well Plotted Soap Stories
I wanted to say spermgate. In rewatching some of 1998, seeds were planted (no pun intended🙃 ) as early as '98 with Victor's vasectomy. In fact all of sperm gate and Kyle's birth are direct resuls of Veronica shooting Nikki. 3 years of story 1998-2001! Soaps cannot write like this today. In rewatching I saw the exact date April 6, 1998, when Jack told Diane that vasectomies could be reversed while the pair had assumed Nikki had died from her gunshot wounds. To think that revelation still drives story today.
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Well Plotted Soap Stories
Y&R had so many examples from the early 90s! 1988-90: George Rawlins death. It started with Paul discovering he was with his clients wife, and ended with Paul gaslighting Cassandra and believing she was seeing his ghost while vacation in the Caribbean! 1990-1992: Sheila's baby switch had so many twists. Sheila raping Scott and getting pregnant. Sheila realizing Scotty had a birthmark after the switch, then having it removed. Molly Carter learning the truth but catching a stroke which paralyzed her communication. Lauren setting up the insurance scheme to run a paternity test on Scotty not realizing she actually needed a maternity test. The doctor that treated Sheila's miscarriage showing up in town to work at the same lab as Sheila & Scott. The biggest payoff being her transition to B&B!
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Y&R May 2022 Discussion Thread
I was hoping her therapist would've been a ressurected Dr Tim Reid!
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Well Plotted Soap Stories
What were some examples of soap storylines that were well planned, structured, and timed with a good payoff. GH: Carly from 1996-1999. The umbrella plot was Carly being Bobbie's daughter which contained her affairs with Tony, Jason & AJ as well as the spinoff plot of Michael's paternity. I believe it came about as a result of Luke looking for a bone marrow donor which also spawned Nickolas. 3 years of solid story. The two big payoffs were the Carly & Bobbie scene at Michael's baptism and Robin teling AJ the truth. OLTL: Victor Lord's murder 1993-1995. It started with the introduction of Sloan and "Lord of the Banner", spiraled into Dorian on trial for Murder, continued into Viki splitting into multiple personalities with the payoff being Viki realizing she "killed" her own dad. seeds of Vickys eventual psyche crack were being planted as early as late 94.
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ARTICLE: ‘Queens’ Canceled After One Season by ABC
Wow! I knew this was coming but Queens was actually pretty decent despite low ratings.
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Characters that ATE their Soaps
I love how Erica always got the biggest headshot in the intros from 1990 onwards lol! Makes sense. Erica was there from roughly the start so it made sense that she would have such prominent focus. Same for OLTL's Viki. It's different for Reva on GL as she came on 46 years into the show's run and became it's star. As for Victor on Y&R I never minded him as a prominent focus. I just hated how excessively villainous they make him again after about 2007.
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Characters that ATE their Soaps
That's exactly how I feel. Stephanie is B&B!
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Characters that ATE their Soaps
could it be said that Queen Stephanie ever ate B&B, or that Erica ever ate AMC.
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Characters that Stopped Getting Stories
That was also one of Bobbie's last real stories too. What was she really given after this? Jerry Jax and the sex tape? Having grown up on JFP/Guza era GH I only knew Bobbie through youtube classics even though she made recurring appearences during this period.
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Characters that ATE their Soaps
Brooke's stories were pretty entertaining.
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Characters that Stopped Getting Stories
Was OLTL's Viki on the backbuner on the show's final yeas (as is sadly customary for older aged charachers)?
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Characters that ATE their Soaps
GH: Sam took Courtney's place in the show eating quad. Why did they decide to kill Courtney off? Did they loose interest in her once they had the charachter and Jason split?
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Characters that ATE their Soaps
Often, charachters eating a show has a negative connotation. Were there any examples of charachters occupying ALOT of screen time that you were okay with?
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Characters that ATE their Soaps
GL: I know many would say Reeva and that the show was more of her ensemble during her missing years from 1990-95. GH: Sonny, Carly, Jason from about 1999-2012.
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Y&R May 2022 Discussion Thread
Diane needs to have come back with an agenda. To take over Newman or Jabot, to take Michael from Lauren or something with life.
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Best/Worst Production Value Periods on Soaps
ATWT looked alot older in the early 80s before the Marland era. WORST: Guiding Light's new production model. The attempt at making it look like a reality show did not work.
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Characters that Stopped Getting Stories
Sam has been irrelevant since she left Jason. Let me add Tony Jones for GH. The Carly story --which was masterfully written -- destroyed him, especially after his kidnapping of Michael. EDIT: Y&R: Katherine didn't really have any story focused soely around her from about 1990 post Marge to the 1998 Estate battle, excluding her breast cancer scare which I've never seen. She was a talk to/ supporting for most of that time.
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Jerry VerDorn has passed away
RIP to Mr Clint Buchannan, Ver Dorn is the Clint I grew up on. Everybody's going, SMH.