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Material from the 2000s looks gold in comparison to what we get today. The lesser of yesterday is better than the best of today where soaps are concerned. 7 Divas on a bus , 2007 interview from CBS' Early Show. https://youtu.be/eWW83rm4cKM

End of another face from a bygone era. RIP Kathryn! And I was just rewatching the Bob/Susan/Kim story from the early 90s. It was the epitome of mature charachters still being utilized! The multi generational community is what makes me love World Turns. Loved her short haircut and she was always well dressed! Glad we got to see her on the Locher room last year.

Just exactly where does Sonny get income from? I haven't really come across scenes of him shaking down small businesses for "protections".

I need Diane to be a villain and not soft to stir some action. would love to see her interact with Phyliss, victor and Nikki again.

I never found Sheila to be sympathetic, more so a pot stirrer. The hype around Sheila IMO is warrented. The baby switch was one of Y&R's greatest structured plots ever with one of the best payoffs: 5 days of the firehouse, plus 6 more years of drama on another soap. Moreover, Sheila was the only charachter that really intimidated Stephanie Forrester! Lauren did not deserve the baby switch. It was however was karma for how she treated people like Tracy in the 80s. Not to mention that she cheated on Scott afterwards. The problem is everything after 2002 has has been cartonish, and the litany of random children was ridiculous. They could have brought Diana back at had her get attached to one of the Forrester men. Yes! The Marones and Soectras were more entertaining than the Spencers (and Logans after about 2012).

Lauren doesnt have much to do on Y&R so I wish they'd bring her to B&B or send Sheila to Y&R for some material. I dont see how Sheila can continue roaming free in LA after this. (But the writers will find a far fetched way).

Sheila doing low key mischeif like switching wine bottles, stealing Forrester stock and comiserating with Decon or something is what she needs to be doing to last long term. Shooting 2 people -- and being the clear suspect -- should be the climax after years of tension. Not something she does shortly after returning to town. Hence her 1992, 98, and 02 exit stories. Her 2005 return to Y&R, despite it's flaws, was her most decently written stoyline since shooting Taylor.

Didnt realize Diane was on the show as late as 2004, or that she ever interacted woth Dru. By 2005 alot of charachter orbit bubbles burst and we started seeing fresh interactions like Jack and Dru or Malcolm & Sharon.

Lol! Since we're bringing back people who died on screen can we get Brad back, or at least bring Dollar Bill over from B&B. Bill would probably be more interesting as an adversary for Victor.

Nikki absolved of self defence killings twice! JT & now Diane.

That awkward Smoltz guy would be a decent Spinelli recast if needed. Not sure about revenge porn laws, but if Joss & Cam say Trina didn't do it and didn't press charges, does the case need to be procecuted? It's not like a murder where it's the state vs the suspect, and the victims aren't minors.

Susan had a near death experience twice and now her husband passes before her. RIP.

Joss calling Esme Nelle 2.0, loved the show's self-awareness in that. I want to see Cam fall for Esme and help her through the pregnancy (Carly/Jason 3.0 , 2.0 being Michael and Nelle). It surprises me that Porsche is so anti-Spencer but she's perfectly fine with either mentoring her daughter. But as someone posted, it wasn't always that way.

Exactly keept whatever business you can private. They've spoke alot publicly, especially Jada and resultantly people have had something to say. IMO, Will's reaction as evidenced by his speech, was about the years of jokes not just Chris' comment. This begs the question, if you cant make mild jabs like this anymore, exactly what can you joke about?

I think Will reaction was less about Jada's hair condition and more his breaking point after months of "Entanglement" jokes. I can't tell someone what they should feel offended by, but did the joke really warrant Will's reaction? It was rather mild and GI Jane was a female badass in her movies apparently. Other comedians have said worse about their relationship, Chris was just Infront of Will at the moment. Plus several other people or their movies were the butt of jokes last night. This was basically a bar fight between Will and Chris. Hopefully this isn't blown out of proportion and Will (or even Chris) doesn't suffere a career lull after this.

I suspected Esme would either get pregnant or fake a pregnancy by Cam or Spencer. Didn't see the Nik flirtation coming, but definitely it's headed there.

I will say constantly giving the same charachters the lead is why I find Y&R's history easier to manage than for example ATWT, with it's bloated cast back in the days. It has backfired in the long run because of the show has a poorly developed , boring newer generation and the veteran actors are quite nearly played out. The separation of charachters and storylines occuring in spheres also made backstories and charachter connections easier to follow. The orbits, especially in the 90s: Victor/Jack, Kay/Jill, Drucilla, Christine, & Lauren, made following stories relatively easier than other big soaps. I agree that loosing side charachters like the secretaries and maids (Carol, Mamie, Miguel, Lynne, John Silva) was a bad move. I wonder why we haven't gotten to see Lynne or at least Mamie in years. I love how Y&R always brough back the same actors for small roles like Glen Richards the district attorney or Detective Selena Wylie.

2005 is often cited as the last classic year, but there was a marked decline after 2001. The camera angles became less ornate, the clothes and sets became even less glamourus, and the storylines started going off track. 97-01 was the Silver age, with 02-05/ early 06, being the bronze age of the show for me. 2001 was solid with Matt Clark & Tricia, Diane, Isabella, the Walnut Grove teens, and others.

This storyline with Keemo actually would have been a good opportunity to bring Mary Jo back, perhaps in addition to Diane.

Speaking of Trump, Nick and his haircut kinda resembled The Donald, at least from the back. Deacon, Whip, and Grant should have been included. Not necessarily as loves bus as some of her men, like GH did for Brenda upon her return.

"harder" is exactly what comes to mind when I think of OG Diane and her intensity. Making her a villain was a great turn for her story. At first I was against Victor in that he wooed Diane away from Jack only to go back to Nikki. Then I read up their history and realized it was karma for what Jack & Di did to Patti. Still though, Victor was bastard for leaving her like that.

With Diane Jenkins back on modern y&r, I had no idea Susan Walters made appearences as late as 2010! As much as I like Walters, my favorite Alex Donnelly was recast due to age if I'm correct? If that was the case, then that sucks. Diane should have never been killed off. Maura West wasn't all that bad, but she might have been bettet in her own role.

Was literally gonna say both. But I've never seen FOTH associated as sample of Autumn Breeze.

So many motives are confusing as someone said. Ryan being her dad clears some of it up, like why she went that far in terrorizing Ava. But why does Spencer doubt that Esme could have filmed the sex tape, when he's fully cohnizent of her capabilities? Why does Spencer hate his dad so much? The playing dead motive seems stretched. Why doesn't Spencer leave Esme for Trina already? Is he just a f***kboy? Loved the flashbacks between Carly and Liz, much like the Sheila flashback we got on B&B.

Had no idea that this was going to happen, especially given that we saw Diane die (even though it's a soap lol). Ill take the OG Diane back as her cousin her something too, but thats me being greedy! I know this storyline will be DULL, what a shame, great to see Susan again.