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This whole story wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for TV Guide! KL was set to have Jill Bennett fade away at the end of the ‘85-86 season. But in spring ‘86 TV Guide planned to do a cover story on Teri Austin. To accommodate the TV Guide reporter being on the KL set to observe Teri at work, the writers came up with a last-minute scene in the season 7 finale between Gary and Jill. The writers then were inspired to bring back Jill for season 8 and the rest is history.

Perhaps they already knew she’d be moving to BnB the next year

How about on Knots... Jill's diabolical plan to force Val to "commit suicide"... this one sure disturbed teenage me

Hi, will anyone be able to post the recent Videoland eps? I think they will be reaching spring '93 and I am so excited to see the build-up to Eric and Sheila's wedding! Thanks so much for all your efforts.

Per this Krista interview, she was Shelly for only 2 eps and it was 1995. https://tvsourcemagazine.com/2022/02/a-bold-new-beginning-an-interview-with-the-bold-and-the-beautifuls-krista-allen/

A million thanks! 🙏

I need more Sheila's pregnancy pad in my life!!

Incredible! From the missing period of early ‘91

Making my way through ‘96, currently in July… I have an overall question re: Michelle Stafford’s first stint as Phyllis. Her first few months in ‘94 were really noteworthy - revealing out of nowhere that Danny has a wife and baby, and proceeding to run Cricket and Paul down. But after that… for the entirety of ‘95 and ‘96… what is the story? What does Phyllis do? It seems like she just stands in her apartment, talking to herself and fruitlessly scheming to get Danny back. Considering MS’ popularity, the story seems surprisingly uneventful (nothing like Sheila switching babies and terrorizing her invalid mother). Am I missing something…?

Happy New Year and thank you so much! There were some pretty decent stories around that time

Many thanks to @anon4520 and @rsclassicfanforever for all your valuable efforts!!

I love how no one has even mentioned Ingo Rademacher's name. His brief stint was a total debacle. Clayton Norcross begged for forgiveness...? Why - what did he need to be forgiven for?

My impression is that Eve dispatched with Charlie in spring '83, as she took over every aspect of Victor's life and wanted no interference. And then there was a gap of about a year, until after the V&N wedding, that Miguel was introduced as Charlie's replacement.

These scenes are in the vault under fall ‘83 clips. This “story” feels very random and just something the writers came up with to kill time for Victor before other plots heated up. How could the head of Newman Enterprises have the time to go work at a diner? So silly. Marian is definitely not someone Victor has romantic feelings for. Overall it feels like a PSA story about how difficult it can be for people earning minimum wage. Douglas last appeared Oct ‘95… I think 10/16/95. He never had a job. I think he was implied he came from family money. He would talk about his days during “the war” but people doubted he ever saw combat 😂 Lynn disappeared end of ‘04/early ‘05…? Laura Bryan Birn’s departure seemed to coincide with the departure of her dad, YR staffer Jerry Birn. John S courted Nina and maybe kissed her, but she was always hesitant and intimidated by him, and officially dumped him once Ryan caught her eye.

What was the airdate? That could have been during the writers strike

Possibly but it was almost a full 5 years from Veronica’s debut to when John first looked at Mamie in a romantic light.

Great question. I think the soap mags at the time only said that the show is taking the character "in a different direction". The last episode for Marguerite Ray (Mamie #1) was the debut episode for Drucilla and Victoria Rowell, and then the show switched to Veronica Redd. Who was the better Mamie? All things considered, my vote is for Marguerite Ray. I think she was better as the Abbott housekeeper and surrogate mother to Jack, Ashley and Traci. Veronica Redd's Mamie never was quite a fit for me, in that regard. But on the flip side, I think Veronica was better at portraying Mamie as a strict demanding mother-figure to Dru.

Bond Gideon's husband is a member of the Facebook YR Classic page. IIRC he posted that Bond's talent agent asked the show for too much money, and the show countered by replacing her with Deborah Adair.

4/19/82 is in the vault. There’s a flashback to the spring ’81 hook-up of Jack and Jill, so you can get a little glimpse. I think that flashback has a newly-created insert of Jerry Douglas’ John discovering Jack and Jill hooking up. Where in the original scene, I assume it was Brett Halsey’s John discovering them, and that’s when Brett H was let go. When John returned to town, Jill definitely had some atoning to do for sleeping with Jack, as she reconnected with John.

I agree there could have been more flashbacks upon Sheila's BnB debut. Also, the scenes that aired on YR, I think on 5/20/92, of Sheila at the diner recovering after escaping the farmhouse fire - perhaps these scenes should have just aired on BnB instead, to show the viewers more where Sheila was coming from. Besides that, though, I think the show did an incredible job of incorporating Sheila in the Forrester world. I do think CBS aired promos during both YR and BB to add more color... there's a summer '92 BnB Promo where Sheila is "The Hand that Rocks the Cradle", obsessed with Eric Jr.

September and fall of '86 was a major "Sophie's Choice" for 14-year-old me, who had no VCR... The previous tv season - I had no issues watching Colbys Season 1, Thursdays at 9, and then Knots Landing Season 8, right after that at 10. But then the scheduling idiots at CBS moved KL Season 9 to Thursdays at 9, in direct competition with Colbys season 2! 😫 I had to prioritize my beloved KL, and I would literally just change the channel during commercials to catch brief glimpses of the Colbys 🤣 IIRC KL's ratings took a big hit, and the show was moved back to 10. But by then Colbys was nearing cancellation...

I 100% agree that making Jill the daughter of Katherine was an awful idea. But - is there anyone besides me who enjoyed the story itself? 🤣 I thought it had lots of great beats: - The return of the Fosters, especially beloved Liz - The incredible character of Charlotte, alcoholic fake Jill birth-mother, played indelibly by Elizabeth Harrower soon before her passing. Every line she spoke was just gold. - Katherine’s stroke, which led to some great tense scenes as she knew Billy and Mac were cousins but couldn’t communicate it - On that note, finally an interesting story for the beige and boring Billy and Mac recasts. I was just starting to warm up to them, when in the course of a week in June ‘03, they went from getting married, to breaking up and leaving town separately. All that said, I’m quite happy the Jill/Katherine blood-relation was later retconned. I can’t keep track - is Jill still considered a Fenmore or was that also (hopefully) retconned?

I agree with the majority of your picks, but I’m curious - why 2003?

"Derek and Jill suggested that Liz give herself a more youthful look by dyeing her hair. They gave her a wig to acquaint herself with the new image, but she felt ridiculous." Ok this sounds amazing

I’m up to 1381 – the therapy sessions with Sheila and Jay Garvin are just exquisite. She only gives him half of the Lauren Fenmore story and then is so desperate that she takes his flawed advice. It’s funny how a huge summer ’92 plot point was Sheila plotting to take over from Judy as l’il Eric’s nanny, but once Brooke and l’il Eric get off the plane from Paris, there’s no mention of daycare for the baby. Peter Brown is still in the contract credits but hasn’t made one appearance in at least a couple months… he must have been a FOBB (friend of Bill Bell