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I know what I'd want for OLTL, and it's streaming and an Eastenders-like schedule and runtime, not a primetime hour. But we'll see how this goes.

I can't see Kelly or Mark (or the showrunner who allegedly is a huge fan) wanting to pretend this show is out of continuity with GH and the rest of the old ABCD line-up. That's not how the network worked. I would fully expect references to Port Charles or Llanview. I mean, obviously P&G isn't gonna do it so maybe ABC finally will, lol. But I think it's extremely possible this show flops or runs a year or two and that's it. I can't see it becoming a massive new franchise. I think streaming is and has always been a better hope for reinventing and reinvigorating the soaps. But I'm open to this.

I don't think we can know how dark the show will be based on that logline. I think there's a difference between simply doing a mystery plotline and being grimdark or trying to posture and cannibalize something like Riverdale (still my worst fear). So I'm not going to pre-judge too much just yet. I will not be at all surprised if they pretend AMC 2.0 doesn't exist given the very brief and relatively obscure revival. It will always be canon to me, and who knows if we'll see any of the relevant characters, but fortunately most of the events on the show don't need to be retconned per se. Realistically I expect zero nods to it. Still, if we happen to not see A.J. or Miranda right away and some scheming superfan set dresser happens to leave a picture on the mantle of Eric Nelsen or Denyse Tontz (before the inevitable recasts, of course)... I might die.

I really don't worry about that tbh, because I disagree. Sadly I don't think most people have much of any awareness of AMC 2.0 due to the circumstances and timing. AMC prime is what AMC is remembered for. In the best case scenario, this show is a hit and the larger whole is what becomes known for both. But I don't think AMC will necessarily be wholly supplanted by PV whatever happens. Not if they do it right.

I think Susan, Sarah and Eva LaRue are likely locks. I'll be upset if Eden and Debbi aren't at least announced to appear. I do hope they let MEK and Cady do a bit. I want a lot of things we probably won't get, like getting to see Michael Nader again once more. 2013 spoiled me. I presume they'll recast J.R. again - I can't see them working in Hayley and not having Chandler Enterprises in some fashion.

I'm just not interested in them purely sending up AMC like it's Devious Maids. That was an original property designed for that specific purpose. AMC had enough light and humor to it, we don't need to piss on the genre that has proved hardier in various forms and formats than TV cares to admit. You can absolutely poke fun at AMC's ludicrous history without dogging the show itself, and still having a sense of love for it. I think we're all going to project the best or worst onto this project sight unseen, but I am cautiously hopeful. I do think it's extremely likely we'll see Sarah play Kendall Hart again, given the existing relationship with Kelly and SMG continuing to have TV cachet.

In fairness, albeit with a grain of salt: This dude apparently turned down a deal elsewhere bc bringing back AMC was his dream. I wouldn't do that shít, lol! But I admire that. I just hope they don't turn the show into a CW-flavored widget. It sounds like he's implying on social media the Hubbards will be back. Any wise show would invest in Debbi Morgan and presumably a lead role for Frankie, quickly.

These days it usually means the Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa school, i.e. Riverdale. But I hope I'm wrong. I can't see Kelly wanting to just have AMC turned into a clone of that show no matter how much her husband has enjoyed working on it. She knows what AMC is. I am pleased about this news, but I'm pragmatic. I don't want to see a hollowed out version of what made the show work. It can work on primetime, but nothing like this has ever really been done successfully before to my knowledge. It's a new frontier.

I think there are other shows much more appropriate to the Riverdale-esque makeover this sounds like than AMC - it always had light and a heart and a vibe of hearth and community. I hope they don't try to turn into a campy riff on soaps or better things like that show. I'm very happy for AMC, but based on the press release I am reserving judgment in a major way. It's one thing to reintroduce an old property, it's another to do it with one that hasn't been off the air for ten years and ran for over 30. I can see them trying to bring SMG back as Kendall, for example, while pretending Alicia Minshew didn't play her for many, many years, just because 'it's primetime.' Could I be for seeing Sarah in the role again, of course, but it's the potential for erasure of a huge raft of history that concerns me. Soaps are not primetime shows with a handful of seasons; their history is everything. You can't gloss them over in quite the same way, it has to be handled much more carefully. So hopefully they can do that.

I mean, I'm pleased for them but I worry they're trying to turn the show into Riverdale/Sabrina/etc. That's not an answer to me. Still, it's a form of good news and we'll see where it goes.

Sure thing.

Wow. I remember that terrible show.

I think bringing back Kate was one of the only options available to them given how things with Brenda ended - any new romance was IMO pointless given what that story said about Sonny. Even his current relationship with Carly feels like them both giving up and wanting something familiar. But yes, while I felt KS did some of the initial Kate stuff under Wolf reasonably well she was no Megan Ward. And I thought everything with Connie, Trey, Scully, etc. all sucked and was ruinous. I do find it weird they keep having MW come back to play Connie - a ruined character she never had to contend with, and always wearing that same dress. But I am glad they remember the Jerome siblings murdered her in cold blood. Trey is definitely dead.

Lara looks a bit better:

She's right, but watch for the Beltway to clutch their pearls. Looks like a stimulus deal may finally happen today, albeit for only part of what we'll want in January - knock on wood.

My first experience watching Eastenders was the PBS omnibus, and some of my early memories are of the Peggy cancer story. Barbara Windsor was so heartbreaking, spellbinding. She was one of my favorites. You couldn't take your eyes off her. I'm glad she finished things on her terms on the show before her illness took her. It couldn't take her career or her legend. So many of the tributes and commentaries, from folks like Patsy Palmer and Shane Richie on TV, Ross Kemp or Lucy Benjamin, are lovely. Even the fearsome Danniella Westbrook.

Kumiko!! Karate Kid Part II was my favorite and I've loved Tamlyn Tomita ever since. I guess I should eventually watch this show.