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It's something I've thought about a lot. Yeah, I get what you're saying. You can tell good stories at a kitchen table. Bill Bell could do that. I'm liking the Amy/Damian storyline right now and that doesn't involve more than two sets. OTOH the show is severely limited in storyline choice when they don't have basics like a large hospital set and a police station. Everything becomes a throwaway line at the coffeehouse. Even with the fetish for "business stories" they don't even have offices! It's just beyond parody. A show is firing on all cylinders when it's making a best effort at everything... writing, acting, directing, sets, wardrobe, lighting, music, etc. That's what BTG is trying to do (granted some growing pains in some of these areas).

And yet we can't get a f***in' overnight set crew! How infuriating!

I wonder what role Buglioli tried out for on GL. She says she made final 2.

Don't know anything about the context here but this is giving Y&R "chipmunk."

Does my CBS daytime heart proud! It's an amazing accomplishment to beat GH and significantly outpace The Talk.

So I found my answer... Misty Moon by The Sunset Sound featuring Shelby Lynne. Color me surprised, because Shelby Lynne is someone I've actually heard of and I didn't think Y&R used non-generic music anymore. https://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2025/the-young-and-the-restless-spoilers-who-is-phyllis-sharons-captor-at-havenhurst-psychiatric-facility/ In the storyline, Sharon and Phyllis remembered it was played at Nikki's MS gala on July 22, 2013 when Phyllis fell down the stairs, but I'm not sure that's actually true. That episode is in the vault and I skimmed it and don't hear it so it could be something they made up now.

What was weird was how casual it was. Even on B&B they will wring some drama over the feelings of guilt and shame, struggling with the attraction and how family members will react, and then giving in to passion. This was like, "hey remember were not related, wanna boink?" "OK!" I'm curious to see where it goes. It seems like it should be a secret that really hurts Nicole and Ted but Dani and Andre didn't seem to think so. I expect Nicole to be upset Dani would use her nephew she raised like a son as her "best way to get over somebody is to get under somebody."

I just skimmed and based on the outfits, day 2 starts in episode 4... which is similar to BTG actually. Y&R's day 2 starts on Episode 6.

I really loved the scene where Naomi was like "you approached me so if you don't like my opinion, turn and go" and Bill did LMAO! So funny that just yesterday I was asking if Andre was a blood relation and today he helpfully narrates that to Dani like she didn't already know, haha. I guess MVJ has been duly influenced by Brad Bell to already get to some relations boinking in week 1!

Is Andre supposed to be Ted's nephew by blood?

Lol at the special kidnapping episode... Phyllis got in a couple of good lines but I almost turned it off when I saw it was just that story! The set is so one dimensional, it's like it can only be filmed from one angle. Are there any articles or social media posts about that song? I assume it was a special composition. I heard the word Restless in there...

The daughters talking about tiptoeing around Dani's moods and Dani freaking over her food... these small interpersonal moments what I love about soaps. Moreso than the dramatic ending of this episode. Vanessa is totally the Diane Miller of the show. I loved the gossip session at Orphey Jean's. Great way to fulfill the obligatory recap. Karla Mosley's acting takes me completely out of her scenes. I'm really liking Bill. They definitely needed a steady and layered performer to offset Mosley. He gives a lot of good nuance and subtext. I'm really looking forward to the confrontation with Naomi over sleeping with her best friend. Naomi seems really grounded and cool.

Wow, that's really good for just the 30 minute specials. Have to imagine the show itself will do better than the specials, either beating GH in its debut or overtaking it quickly. I feel bad for GH because they've been very good all week and they're the only show that's been trying. This is pretty much around where I expected BTG to land. Didn't think it would beat its lead in and it will probably take around a year to build their audience if there is any chance.

I'm not hating Luna and Remy. Mad chemistry. No need for any paternity test on Steffy. She truly is Ridge's daughter considering how long it took her to get it.

Is Chelsea the oldest? They really did not need to make it a 30 year marriage. I also thought it was implied she not only married, but started a family quickly and lost her career. 25 years would have been just fine.

And with 5 soaps, plus some of the streaming stuff now, it will be harder to justify just nominating every show for all the top categories. 😅

They are hinting that he feels subservient to his husband... in his establishing shot, he's carrying a laundry basket. It's a twist on the 60s and 70s soap wives who bemoaned the drudgery of homemaking and wanted careers.

Today's episode was much better. Things are settling in! Great scene between Bill and Vernon. Makes you want to know more about Bill and Dani's marriage and of course the secrets that Bill holds. That look Anita gave Vernon when he said Bill seemed sincere, hah!

I prefer reading all the posts in a thread before I comment, so I feel like I'm always going to play catchup. 😅 The good: Strong solid acting from Vernon, Anita, Nicole and Bill. Good script. Lots of little threads to pick up on. I didn't mind the exposition. I'm glad the show is rooted in normal storylines like affairs and class differences and shady dealings, and there weren't any big out of the blue moments meant to "shock." There was buildup to the slap and it made sense. It's just very old-fashioned classic soap. The bad: The directing. It's very clunky. There was a lot of "now I come out and say my line and then I look at the camera." Most of the newer actors are unnatural. And I have to include Mosley in that. On that late night show last week she was showing her soap opera tag face, and I couldn't help but notice her doing it a lot. "Ohh, look, this is a soap, and I just said something dramatic! Now I pause and give you a moment to gasp!" I loved the use of pop music in the opening, but the show could have used more background music to add some of the nuance and emotion to the dialogue that the newer actors aren't showing yet.

In other words, a banging old school Friday cliffhanger!

I'm all about Nicole over Dani. Obviously Anita. Dani's ex-husband intrigues me and has a good presence in the promos, especially that line about "you didn't make me, and your father didn't make me" (and yet, he still cares enough to want to bring his bride into their gated community and get married in the country club their grandfather founded, so there's just a lot there!).

Which one was that?

Perhaps this thread should be archived as the historical pre-BTG hype thread and a new BTG Behind the Scenes thread should be started? I respect the admins' decision whatever they decide of course.

That was classy of B&B.

Some of those were really hard, geez!