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Setting aside the rape for a moment, Luke's motives to flip on the mob were also only logical if the writers were trying to rehabilitate the character. Luke came to town with a history of mob connections. He benefited from the mob's involvement with the disco, and it wasn't as if he was an entertainment entreprenour who suddenly had to pay for mob protection, he worked at the disco in hopes of moving up in the organization. So, to suddenly gain a conscience and try to bring down the mob seemed to come out of nowhere. The murder of Tony and his forced marriage to Jennifer were further motives to want revenge. However, the Luke who arrived in Port Charles originally did not have the morals to want bring the mob to justice. I could understand if Luke wanted to kill Frank, but it seemed implausible that he would work with legal authorities to get him arrested.

One imagines that behind the scenes, once production knew that Kin Shriner was not going to re-sign his contract, they knew that there was only one direction for the story.

Do you mean at what point between the rape and going on the run did they make the decision to put all of their proverbial eggs in Luke's basket? Because certainly the entire year between the left-handed boy and the ice princess was an attempt to give Luke rooting value.

While we're playing "what if" - how about if Phyllis Blake admitted to a wartime affair with the Count which resulted in the conception of Gina? Ms. Blake's backstory was very fluid, so anything was possible. And it would have made the rivalry between Gina's Jeans and Armonti Industries even more personal. For those who deride Tori, I have lamented before that a missed opportunity was exploring Sophia as an aging former starlet compared to Tori who was on the final crest of stardom. I was delighted to hear that @Marissa Gallant found scenes where Sophia exerted her dominance. However, it would have been great to see more interactions between the two once Tori became an addict and tried to ruin Eden's happiness, in the style of Valley of the Dolls, when Helen Lawson tells the younger Neely that Broadway "doesn't go for booze and dope. Now get out of my way, I've got a man waiting for me." I think there was so much drama to mine out of a woman who once drove men mad, but now was aging and fighting with her daughter for the attention of a the gigolos in town. Ladies at home who felt left out of the culture of 1980s working women would have eaten that stuff up with a spoon. As for Haley, there is that terrible form of soap justice where Haley was punished by becoming a victim of sexual assault. However, what I think was unexplored with that character was her motivation for joining the environmentalists in the first place. Haley was always a very ethical young woman, but I am interested in her more radical side. I know the bomb was written as a mistake, but I wonder what drew her to such extreme beliefs? How did she become such an easy mark for the environmentalists? There has to be a difference between someone who politically opposes off-shore drilling versus those who would resort to violence to make their case, and I still don't know what drove Haley toward those who held such extreme ideas.

Thanks @titan1978 & @Franko for sharing your memories about Laura's letter. It seems as if it was an attempt to rehabilitate Luke. Yet, for as much credit as Gloria Monty gets as a producer, it would have been impossible for her to coordinate the writing team to create a scenario that changed the minds of the audience who watched the scenes created by directing team on the original night at disco. The contrast of the music, the lighting, and the youthful quiver of Genie's voice was impactful, even before the invention of YT which allowed viewers to replay it on demand. It would have been too farfetched for Laura to suddenly admit that she falsely accused Luke of assault, or played any part in incited her assault, after we watched her say "no." In my opinion this is why Lucky's rejection of Luke when he found about the rape was so much more impactful the Guiding Light's scenes of Holly forgiving Roger for raping her.

First of all, I agree that the Count was benevolent, he adopted war orphans and left his money to Sophia,so he couldn't be that bad. It must have been Marcello's PTSD delusions from the war that causes them to keep Sophia in Italy. The obvious choice would be Joe Mascolo, given his history of being cast as both landed gentry on DAYS and an Italian on B&B. However, give SB's tendency to cast former primetime TV stars, I have some other choices. 1. Tony Franciosa, suave, Italian, a little older than CC, and could definitely give him a run for his money 2. Vince Edwards, Dr. Ben Casey from the 60s, heroic, strong, but could probably still be sexy into the 80s, I like the idea of having Sophia going for a more established man, while CC was still trying to sew his wild oats with younger gals 3. A wild card, Jed Allen's former DAYS co-star Joseph Gallison, there was always a bit of suspicious mystery to Neil, that Joe could bring to The Count, his grey hair made him look older than he really was, and given that he was a former lead on AW, there had to be something charismatic about the actor that NBC execs liked

Wasn't Marcello adopted, or at least cared for, by Count Armonti after his parents died? So I always assumed when Marcello picked up Sophia they just went back to his dad's house. Years ago, the young Hans Ruyker (his real name) lived in the Netherlands, surrounded by his family. And this is during World War II that he loses his parents. At ten years old, the young Hans attends the slaughter of his parents by the Nazis, on May 20, 1944. We really do not know how the drama happened, but Hans rejects the responsibility of the death of his parents on the shoulders of a young officer of the American Air Force : Channing Creighton Capwell. Because Hans' parents lodged this American soldier. At the end of the war, years are passing by for the young Hans. He leaves for Italy in an orphanage. There, Count Armonti, having not been able to have a heir, decides to adopt him. And that is how Hans Ruyker becomes Marcello Armonti. Years later, a link with the past of Marcello could have been established with Katrina Ruyker. There's some irony in Marcello hating CC his whole life, and then CC clears it up and everyone is like, oh OK, got it... As for how Marcello got from the Netherlands to the Amalfi coast that I do not recall, but one assumes that the sites were specified so that nobody assumed Hans was a Nazi.

It is an odd timeline, because she fell off of Lionel's boat in 1969, and was believed dead. Sometime after that she wound up in Italy with the Count. Then, in 1979, at Channing's 18th birthday party, she returned to try to kill Lionel, but mistakenly shot Channing. And at that time she was actually, kidnapped/rescued by Marcello and returned to Italy for treatment of the shock of killing her son. So, there is some room for discussion about her conscientiousness of guilt over leaving her children from the decade of 1969 to 1979, given that she recovered from amnesia long enough to recall hating Lionel and had the freedom to return to Santa Barbara to plot his demise. Although, I agree that she was not of sound mind enough from 1979 to 1984 to say that she actually abandoned Eden, Kelly, and Ted.

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We covered this in 2019 and so, with all due, I think you might have the sequence a bit off. Roberta and Roscoe were dating, (they wed in 1994 three years after they left SB). In 1991, Roscoe had a huge argument with Conboy, including a letter that was "leaked" to the soap press. Roscoe left the show (June 11,1991), and Roberta followed suit (July 19, 1991). The character of Quinn/Robert was written off. Flame continued for a short bit after the recast. She was paired in an unpopular coupling with ex-priest Michael that seemed like an attempt to rehabilitate the character. Nobody could say that the SB writers in 1990 didn't see the character's value because she got her own set and an entire family built around her. It seems like an unfortunate BTS story that torpedoed that story, because the show was certainly invested in the plot, until the Dobson's returned, and tried to revert Kelly back to her Princess Bride days and she lost all of the smarts she gained during her relationship with Robert/Quinn/Craig.

Are they showing repeats of repeats at this point? Did she do enough shows in studio last year for them to repeat? I guess she's only been off since August when she wished death on Britney's family, but I wonder what they're broadcasting and if they'll try guest hosts again?

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That makes sense because I recall when Lee told Laura that Scotty was divorcing her, he was not too pleased with his daughter-in-law's behavior, but, of course, that was before she helped save the world from a polar vortex. I always assumed Gail went because she wanted to see what Helena Cassadine would wear to the wedding.

At the risk of opening a can of worms, I wonder what other people recollect about the letter that Laura wrote Luke, after their night at the disco, but before they went on run? As I recall, it may have been an attempt to change history that was rarely referred to again once they returned from the left-handed boy adventure. Laura wrote a letter saying that she couldn't get Luke off her mind and essentially forgiving him for assaulting her. Scotty found the letter, (maybe after L&L went on the run?) and determined that Laura must have left of her own free will because she admitted her passion for Luke. It seemed like an attempt to say that Laura was re-thinking the events at the disco, and even though she did not consent, she was intrigued, if not a little obsessed, with Luke at that point in her marriage. I think Scotty left Port Charles after showing the letter to Lee. Which always made me question why Lee and Gail would have attended the L&L wedding? If anyone could fill in the details of the letter and how it contextualized the rape at the disco, I would be eager to know your thoughts.

Then, of course, there's the whole question of how old Ryan was in relation to Perry, given that he and Vicky were contemporaries? As for Marley, she arrived from boarding school (which was located in Soap-opera-boarding-school-land, with students like Nick Newman and Johnny Dimera , who never learned a foreign language or seemed very cultured), where she lived while Donna was with Carl, and she begged Donna to allow her to attend public school in Bay City, which is where she met Ben and that whole gang of teens.

The Dorian/Herb wedding was from that odd time when women would never wear white to the second wedding, but they would wear poofy sleeves and mismatched nail polish I think the scarf was meant to convey that Dorian was happier at her fifth wedding (after Victor, Herb, Mr Sati, and her first marriage to David, this time she married Mel for the "right reasons"), she certainly looked younger Her sixth go-round to Mitch Laurence was a bit of a hodge-podge (good dress, horrible hair), but it must be hard to find time to shop for a last minute surprise return to town marriage to the local cult leader. I guess you know it's last minute when the huge bouquets totally clash with Dorian's color scheme of blush and bashful. However, one of the historical crimes against good taste has got to go to Luna Moody. Not only was it really out of character for such a "boho bride", but it also was never in style to wear a Snow White collar on a dress of velvet burnout herringbone chiffon on your wedding day /

I have vague recollection that David Oliver invested in the company that produced the first college guy calendar. In the 1980s it became a huge trend, which obviously peaked with the Chippendale's calendar and the teen pop movie Campus Man; which was based on their story. However, as I remember David Oliver was one of the original investors, and the campaign came out of the USC marketing and business department students. I know McGinley is a few years older than David Oliver, but they were both Trojans, and USC has a long history of students who began successful businesses while matriculating, including everything from cookies to real estate.

I'm trying hard to discern if John Randolph was one of the luckiest guys in Bay City, or one of the most cursed. On the one hand, he went from Lee to Pat, (the best Matthews sister in my book), and was then pursued by Olive. He got rid of that boring kid Cathy and gained a set of very hip twins. He faced some professional setbacks but he was still trusted for his legal advice by Alice and Steve. On the other hand, he died in a fire, which seems like an awful way to go. He was also injured in a car accident, struggled with alcoholism, and he had Meniere's syndrome (according to AWHP). Olive didn't love him, he low key lusted for Alice, and Jim seemed to loose respect for him over his divorce from Pat. So was he a mench or a schlemazel? Also, doncha miss characters like Lenore? Waspy neurotics, whose main source of conflict was that they were too polite to speak their mind. Usually paired with an earthy romantic partner to help them learn to express their needs, the Lenore's, Ann Tyler's, and Ann Forbes' of the soap world are a dying breed. They were so tightly wound that one assumes that their heads must have exploded the first time that they reached an orgasm.

I feel the need to publicly admit my stupidity because I was today-years-old when I realized that Lindsey Frost is not the same person as Lindsay Crouse. This whole month I was thinking how odd it was that David Mamet's son played baseball under a different last name. For some reason I always thought it was Lindsay Crouse (Mamet's wife, best known for Places in the Heart) who was recast as Betsy.

Did anyone occupy that set after the McColl's hightailed it to parts unknown?

It seems like they're continuing the very old tradition of soap hunks being drunk at fan events, Sean Kanan should do a Ted Talk about the perils of such decisions. This is an excellent point because the character has so much potential, as the scion of Kate and Victor. I think one of the problems is that they've never firmly established his character traits. Is he a bad boyfriend or just easily moved to jealousy? Is he smarter at business than Brady or EJ, because we know he is more educated? How does his relationship with Kate differ from Lucas's relationship to his mother? Is he confident? Because he constantly seems to be trying to prove something. In other words, in a town filled with eligible bachelors, why do we need Phillip as part of the mix?

Was there a scene when Whit and Co moved into the mansion or bought the newspaper? I read that his introduction was mistaking Margo for Lisa and making a pass at her in her sleep. But, he seemed so established in Oakdale, with an old mansion full of stuff and a housekeeper, that I wondered if there was an establishing scene when he purchased all of the stuff?

To be fair, it was entirely within character to be in a relationship with unsavory men who made big promises, but were unappreciative of all of things that Lisa had to offer. She had guys disappear, she married the mob, and then she believed John Dixon's lies, and finally got caught up with Martin Chedwyn. So, she was never very good at picking the right kind of guy. Even though she already had money, Whit brought with him a very nice house, somewhat loyal staff, and a newspaper. From her time at the bookstore, Lisa displayed a love of reading, and writers. So, perhaps the thought of a career in print media was appealing?

Like most actors of a certain age in the 1980s, Whit (aka Robert Horton) had a hell of a head of hair (or hair system) I was interested to read in his wiki that he had played opposite Betsy Von Furstenberg previously in an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents. As well as the fact that Betsy herself wed for the third and final time to real estate broker John J Reynolds two months after being let go from ATWT.

I tend to think of these issues structurally in hindsight rather then sentimentally. Once Clay returns, the character of Curtis becomes redundant. He not only emphasizes Clay's (and Alex's) age by reminding viewers that they had a son who was as old as their lover, Ava, he also serves the same purpose for plot lines. I mean how many avarice heirs does one rich family require on a soap? While I realize that Curtis came and went throughout Clay's story, and often served as his antagonist, I am suggesting that there was limited lasting power for the character because his plot potential was so similar to more established or beloved characters. So, it may not have been about trying cast the right actor as much as trying to find a purpose for Curtis to be in Correnth.