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I'm always a bit amazed when primetime shows from the 1980s are more liberal than today. But here's Jeff Colby talking about smoking a doobie on the first season of Dynasty, 30 years before it was legal to do so in Colorado!!! (gotta love tiktok for these scenes) jeff smokes a dube.mp4

@victoria foxton & @slick jones Your combined forces never cease to amaze me Just to clarify the summary above, Samantha loaned her brother Brad her jewels so that he could buy back the hotel. But first she stashed them in her locker so she could work out and that's when Bodin tried to steal them, she saw it, and then he drowned her in the hot tub? And those jewels were not the same one's that Jamie needed a few years later?

To me this thread plays like an old James Reilly script: Someone talking to themselves in their living room - "I cannot marry the one I love because my previously unknown brother, who is secretly dying, but won't tell her, is in love with her" equals Someone posting to this thread - "I must defend and believe my unnamed sources even though these rumors are gross, illogical, and have been debunked, because I dislike how their character is written"

A recent comment about Wanda being Asa's cousin got me Goggle-ing this morning and I found this old family tree, which kind of explains it... But it also lead to more questions - like - When (blonde/short hair) Andi and her police pals hung out, where they at Wanda's Diner or Carlotta's Diner (given that Andi dated Antonio)? Did Carlotta take over Wanda's, or were they two different diners? Whatever happened to Max's western themed bar? Also, somehow I fell into a hole about Trent Chapin, Laurel's brother/Larry's brother-in-law. Most of what I found had to do with the fact that his portrayer David Beecroft dated Robin Strasser (I always mix up David and Greg Beecroft, later of which is gay so it confused me that he had an affair with Robin, but now it makes sense). Any way, I found this summary that tied Trent to the death of Samantha (spoiler alert), the details of which I totally did not recall. Herb Boden killed her. He was stealing her jewels from the wall safe in the Vernon Inn's Health Club. She walked in at the wrong time. Boden was stealing the jewels for Trent Chapin, right hand man of Alesandro Corenale (sp?) who is a big crime boss (but otherwise a nice guy). Brad Vernon was going to use the jewels to buy back ownership of the hotel from Alex Crown (alias Alesandro C.). Alex doesn't know anything about all this. Trent is the real bad guy. He had Boden kill Leo Corinale in Atlantic City. Leo was Alex's dad. Boden also shot Roberto Corinale while killing Leo. Roberto is Alex's son and has been hiding in the theatre in Llanview for the last week. Alex is still searching for Roberto. There is another woman named Jinx who is missing now. She is a photographer and also a lover of Trent. She's the one who told him about the jewels, but she didn't know he would have them stolen. She also caught Boden in the act, but Boden didn't see her. She took his picture and ran out. She went downstairs and told Trent she saw a robbery and that it was the same guy who killed Leo. She doesn't yet know Trent is behind all this. Trent sort of dragged her out of the hotel and wouldn't let her tell the police. Now the police are looking for her. I'm guessing these aren't the same jewels mentioned above that Jamie wants in order to fulfill his life-preserving faux-gold/cheapest-prop-ever pyramid? Which now leads to two more questions/comments - (1) Who played Jinx? and (2) I had no memory that Rob stayed around long enough to have a love affair with Joanna (who I only recall because she was played by Roma Downey). Does anyone else always associate actors with the roles they played on soaps, no matter how famous they become in other genres?

So, the day after the CDC published data on the increased risk of still births in women with Covid we are speculating that a pregnant woman is unvaccinated because she liked a social media post by her former co-worker?!?

Esther was busy dusting and Mitchell Sherman would have used his billable hours as her attorney, so there were few other options available. 😉

BTW - there's an interesting backstory to SoapHub, which is why I refer to the website's awards as slightly less than laudatory. The site was started by Ramon Van Meer, who has admitted in two interviews that he never watched a full episode of any soap. Per an interview with My First Million: He outsourced the writing of the blog to freelancers because he did not know how to write and somehow he built the most popular blog about a subject he knew nothing about, Soap Operas. To make matters worse, Ramon never watched soap operas because he thought they were boring. Then, he sold the site around 2016 for 8.75 million dollars (to be fair he sold all of his content which involved a couple of other blogging sites). Also, I would question if it was ever the most popular, but I don't have access to that data. He went on to make another 20 million selling dog ramps (as a loyal SON reader, I hope this doesn't give @Errolany ideas). The site is currently managed by Diane Bourstein who has a background in website design for local CBS stations, including the one here in Los Angeles, hence the positioning of the awards on The Talk. It also employs numerous other soap magazine alumni including: Michael Maloney and Janet DiLauro While I do not believe that GH literally sent their actors (as in called an uber for Laura Wright, Cynthia Watros, and SB) there is no doubt that these bookings are done through publicity departments for the purpose of promoting the show during November sweeps. As @janea4oldmentioned, other usually publicity-friendly actors did not appear, even though they won awards So, using context clues, it is reasonable to assume that ABC would not send a recently fired unvaccinated actor to promote their show if they had two other actors willing to appear. Just as it is reasonable to assume the The Talk doesn't book actors directly because they happen to be available for self-promotion. I would thus propose that time has told and the rumor has been debunked (despite @Nixor's totally understandable wish for the demise of Jason).

That is the funniest, and most honest, response that I've read! If I had a fake soaphub award I would give it to you.

I was thinking about the famous scene a couple of years (and a recast) later when Katherine asks Jill to accompany her for her mammogram. As I recall, there was a mysterious phone call, an intercut scene of them both getting ready, and then the reveal that they were both at the doctor's office that was so surprising. Y&R got to educate the viewers on the need to maintain breast examinations, and the characters evolved to a new dimension. For me, the reason that scene worked was that it showed that there was some admiration behind their rivalry which is why they got underneath each other's skin. Phillip may have had other affairs (certainly neither member of that relationship was a stickler for keeping their vows), but it was the idea that Jill betrayed her friendship with Katherine by sleeping with Phillip that drove them both a little crazy. Even an actress as effected as Brenda Dickson, with her stickado line delivery and ridiculous wardrobe, was able to convey the complexity of their relationship, in contrast with her feelings about Jack or John. That's also why the later retcon that made them mother and daughter was so egregious that I stopped watching the show. Begrudgingly going along to a doctor's appointment is one thing, but calling her enemy "mother" when Jill was in her 40s was so dumb that I couldn't take it. Also, Jill's lawyer Michael Crawford was a fox.

So, just to clarify, you are saying that after firing Steve Burton, ABC PR signed off on him appearing on CBS one month later because no other actor was available at the time of taping The Talk? And Burton, who was supposedly fired for refusal to comply with a corporate mandate, agreed to promote GH, on the lowest rated network talkshow because of the prestige of the Soaphub award? Or, are you suggesting that The Talk allowed a recently fired unvaccinated actor on to set, (without the approval of his network promotional department), because there was nobody else available from both CBS soaps to pickup a completely made up award? And rather than making news by asking about his firing by another network, or the transphobic remarks by his co-star, they just let him talk about the loss of Stuart Damon because they felt that was more entertaining? To quote the wise and worldly @slick jones

It still doesn't answer the riddle of why ABC PR would send Burton to appear on The Talk, (three days before Ingo's last airdate), to promote a show after he had been fired last month? It is highly improbable that the "honor" of being awarded by Soaphub forced ABC's hand to implore Steve Burton to appear on CBS a month after they had fired him for noncompliance. Especially because the Talk could have chosen to ask questions about the mandate or his co-worker's social media transphobic remarks, and if he was unemployed, he could have given responses that were unsympathetic to the production. He was not the only cast member nominated, he was not allowed time to promote any other project, and there was no actual trophy to take home.

Riddle me this, why would Steve Burton appear on television today to promote a show that fired him last month? and why would ABC PR send Steve Burton to promote a show after firing him last month?

Did they SORAS Wiley too quickly? He seems awfully precocious for a three year old

I think if we put the context clues together then the rumor seems more likely to be unsubstantiated. 1. Performers have to be vaxxed to be on the Radford lot where The Talk is taped 2. ABC PR, sent Steve Burton as a representative of GH to appear on the show that was taped yesterday, despite the fact that he was not the only GH actor to be nominated for an award (let's not be naive and think he went on his own, or went to promote a show that had fired him last month) 3. Burton posted on social media from the Radford lot and the GH lot within the last week (the GH posting may be old, but he was only at Radford on Thursday). 4. Ingo's last airdate is next week, which would indicate that the episodes filmed on the production dates surrounding the vax mandate should be broadcast within the next two weeks Now, if he has been fired I will gladly eat crow (which might taste better than this year's vegan turkey), but these signs do not seem to predict that outcome (although I am endlessly amazed by the dogmatism surrounding these claims).

That's funny, but you're correct I meant 80s disco era Cliff and Nina, not 1908 Edwardian era Cliff & Nina, (I got confused by the hats)

Certainly no one would accuse Brenda (or her turban) of being subtle here jill on the stand.mp4

Herb says a line at the ceremony that they can't keep their guests waiting, which I guess means that the reception was at Llanfair? I may be all mixed up, but does this mean that they kept Olympia in one mansion, then Asa lived in another, and they had the reception at third mansion? At least when AMC;s Cliff and Nina got married in 1908 (and Palmer's "dead" wife Daisy attended) it made more sense that it was at Palmer's home (with an outdoor area that we never saw again).

An episode was uploaded today from what I assume would be week 1 of the month-long celebration of Asa & Samantha's Wedding of 1981 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bt8bK-IGoo&t=979s It made me realize three things 1. How often I conflate Katrina and Edwina in my memory simply because their names rhymed 2. How often Dorian affected her Francophile tone whenever she wanted to convey her snootiness 3. How much younger looking Anthony George was than Farley Granger when playing Dr. Will Vernon (thanks @Vee for the reference). Also, it is interesting to think of how the tone of this story was the lead into with GH's Ice Princess story of the same summer, because I think one can see how they are trying to play to same demographic while still maintaining OLTL's edgier nature.

One Life to Live does it again! Someone recently posted one of the zillion of episodes related to Samantha Vernon and Asa Buchanan's wedding and all I could look at was this thing on her head Another view, and can someone confirm who is standing next to Dorian? (and why is she in the reception line at the wedding?) Meanwhile Edwina is wearing Chanel (The Banner must have paid their reporters well) Finally, Dorian makes an inexplicable costume change between the ceremony and the reception

@AlexElizabeth you make an excellent point because it doesn't seem like a crime to not tell someone (or their family) that they have amnesia. A conviction for fraud would require the prosecution to determine that not only did Nina intend to deceive Sonny, but also that she profited from the deception. Reasonably, keeping Sonny from making money from mob activities doesn't seem like an arguable offense, and in point of fact Nina probably lost money on her business based on her time away from the office to care for Sonny. So, one would have to wonder what the recourse would be for Nina in order for justice to be served? Although the analogy is imprecise, in a town where multiple people have been able to claim a brain tumor as a defense against murder, Nina should be able to use her brain injury (and the trauma over the loss of her supposed daughter) as evidence of a temporary lack of reason with regard to Sonny.

Sorry I always forget that is was Warner Bros not Sony that bought the Burbank Studios Lot over the summer. Here's Warner Policy Here's the Sony Policy Of course, unfortunately as of the news this week OSHA will no longer enforce these policies until the litigation is complete and the SAG-AFTRA Return to Work policy has expired. However, as of lunch today (when I had a yummy salad from Joan's on 3rd), guards at TV City and Radford were checking vax cards upon entry to the lot for visitors, and employees have submitted proof and get a sticker for their cars to enter daily.

I know from a person who works on the lot that all employees and visitors to the CBS-Radford lot need to show proof of vaccination everyday at the entry gate as of 10/1/21. The same policy is true at the Sony lot where Days is produced and the lot formally known as CBS Television City where Y&R and B&B film.

If this episode somehow turned in an equal to larger number of viewers than the Daytime Emmys, I propose that we officially retire the old discussion commentary of actors needing to add a certain scene to their emmy reel, because clearly all soap awards are meaningless.

So, The Talk did show today about the Soap Hub Awards featuring: Steve Burton doing a tribute to Stuart Damon, and Jacqueline Macinnes Woods announcing her pregnancy and nobody on this board watched it (including me)? It is the daytime talkshow version of a tree falling in the woods with nobody there to hear it.

https://www.menofweho.com/trailer While I appreciate representation, this trailer contains most of my reality show pet peeves. 1. Reducing a community to a log line; e.g. Weho is the coolest town in America and everyone here loves to party. Oh really, what about the large Russian immigrant community of West Hollywood, are they partying at clubs? And what of the income disparity in West Hollywood? Or the large senior community that exists? No place is so simple that it can be reduced to a five word descriptor. 2. A cast member saying, "at the end of the day we're all family" when in reality they are a variety of people cast to be together on a show that probably won't have each other phone numbers in five years. Also, I don't want or know a family filled with strife and drink throwing. 3. All fights, no fun - to me it just looks scary to see strong men physically attacking each other. I mean the optics are different when a middle aged woman throws a drink, versus a twenty year old man, it is just more threatening and fueled by anger 4. People with no viable means of income - an audience is hip to reality stars who are desperate for a check because they are always the one's who claim to be famous but have no actual clout or status. Just once I'd like a show where they flash the cast's credit scores and tax returns rather than their self-appointed titles. Finally, I have nothing against the Human-Ken-doll, however it is odd that there is more than one reality star claiming that title. And, regardless of whether or not his surgeries have enhanced his appearance, it looks painful to me (which is also how I feel about ballerinas dancing in toe shoes) so it kills the aesthetic appreciation.