BetterForgotten

Sometimes I forget that most of this set went on to primetime/film success. It's nice that most didn't forget "where the came from."

I mean, what was his excuse for having no career before supporting Trump?

It's probably a passion project for her and something she's probably wanted to do for a while. At her heart, she's a singer-songwriter, and I think she knows that's her strength more so than contemporary pop.

Other than the 1994 episode, I have no real interest in seeing the other ones (maybe the 2003 one, that's it).

😢 Hopefully, he will resurrect it in some other form...

Y&R is a co-production between Sony and The Bell Dramatic Serial company. Sony owns majority steak, with the Bell's close behind. Corday has a very small interest in the show. Sony is the distributor.

Nancy Curlee has been very honest about how "forced" and "shoehorned" the Tangie character was, but also said MW had a lot of talent and deserved a better constructed character. I think JFP just considered MW a big "get" and tried too hard to make the character work and fit in, but none of it ever worked.

Sally and Sheila didn't share that many scenes from what I remember, but these ones are great. God, I miss Darlene Conley/Sally so much - she was really the jolt this show always needed. "You know Sheila, I never thought of myself as any kind of an angel before, but standing here next to you like this, I'm beginning to feel like St. Francis of Assisi, Joan of Arc, and Mahatma Gandhi all rolled into one!"

MW was a breath of fresh air to AMC when she returned, it’s too bad they also later turned their back on her and wrote so terribly for her in the end.

Lester was also pushing 40 by the time he left Y&R, a bit too late in most cases to really make it big in primetime and film (other than guest spots and recurring roles).

I wonder how things would have turned out had the Dobson's stayed a few more written and gotten to write Roger's exit. I also don't think they would have struggled writing for Holly like Marland seemed to. I think it was @vetsoapfan that said the Dobson's seemed to write Ed/Holly as more of the endgame, and with the hope that they'd probably find their way back to one another. I wonder if that's what they would have ultimately done.

Networks seemed a hell of a lot more patient back then than they do now (I guess there was only like 3 of them, but still). I do have to wonder if the stress of owning/managing the show on his own played into that - he was no longer working for Irna/P&G or the Corday’s and had to figure a lot of things out in his own, that and dealing with a producer like Conboy that he probably had little respect for. Bell was also still contractually obligated at the time to write outlines for DAYS, which I can’t believe he was too happy about as he had his own show to now manage, and writing outlines for a now competing show just seems like a distraction. Speaking of, Betty Corday got a consulting credit at Y&R due to that agreement - I wonder if it amounted to much of anything. When Bell and later PFS left, I can’t imagine she must have been too happy to see their successes at other soaps...

Funny thing though, wasn’t it speculated and said that Bell wasn’t happy with how the first year or so of the show turned out and at one point wanted to cancel it himself? I know even going back to the first years he and John Conboy were often like oil and water and Bell (having probably picked this up from Irna herself) had no problem calling Conboy every afternoon after the shows had aired ripping him a new one if he felt the material hadn’t translated on the screen in the way he had hoped.

Lol, Oh Brenda...

Jenna wasn't even supposed to stick around - JFP offered the role to Hutchison without an audition and with the understanding that it was for a limited run. Hutchison had no intention of sticking around either and wanted to try her hand in LA (and after her first run on OLTL had ended very badly). But I know she said she fell in love with Jenna and playing her earlier on was a "fun relief" as by time she left OLTL, all Gabrielle did was cry according to Hutchison.

I wish it was Buzz who died instead of Jenna.. Apparently, it was MADD/Rauch's retaliation against Hutchison after she publicly spoke out about Zaslow's firing. So stupid - she didn't say anything the entire audience wasn't thinking.

Oddly enough, I think by the time he left in 2002, Rauch had started to tone down the Walmart lighting and the show was starting to look good enough again.

Not only in the pilot, but got the first ever cliffhanger in the show's history.

I don't either, but maybe just maybe they would have given ATWT some much-needed excitement at that time (albeit very short term). Or Rauch would have needed a much stronger HW, which he never really got at GL anyway.

Yeah, P&G's fault was that they hired hack after hack after JFP left. I wonder if they would have seen better longterm results in 1997/1998 if MADD had hired Behr/Broderick for GL, and Rauch/B&E for ATWT as opposed to vice versa.

Speaking of, I am so glad they got rid of Restless Style and that awful set. That set and the awful GloWorn set both symbolized the tackiness of the MAB/Sheffer/Hamner/Rauch era.

This guy is such a crock, and I roll my eyes at his intro about “growing up watching ATWT and GL.” More like he only paid attention to them and can only recall history for those shows for the years he worked there...

1994 was a bizarre year with the worst of JFP's tendencies on showcase. The show also had like a million HW's after Curlee departed - at one point there were like 6 people being credited as a part of a HW-ing team. Way too many cooks in the kitchen for anything to work.