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True on that lol. He is pretty hot. I don't know if I ever remember looking him up or seeing a picture before lol

lmao true!

LOL yep. I felt like a lot of men on Marland's ATWT were ready to burst out of the closet, or Marland lowkey wanted them to be and couldn't, which was obvious in certain stories.

I have to agree with you on this. Quite a few bad recasts, newbies who couldn't act. Almost every year it felt like a slew of new characters. I thought Marland had a lot of bland leading men that left me puzzled to what the vibrant and lively women saw in them, LOL. I loved Casey and Lyla but I have to agree on the chemistry. I didn't see. I LOVE Casey as a character though and Lyla as well. Both actors are so good that they just make it work.

Yep. Exactly. It's so maddening and SO BLATANTLY OBVIOUS.

Yet for me she has always been the face that comes to mind. I mean, look at Amanda Sinclair. How boring can you get? Don't tell me that isn't being done on purpose because it is. You could literally remove her next week and fan outcry would not be nearly as bad (well it would for different reasons now, but you know what I'm trying to say)

Latham did seem to want to write for Dru and she was leading at the time. It wasn't "Winters Wednesdays".

Yep! And it's SO frustrating. I tried to get folks on social media talking about Rowell and Dru and was blown off. "It's too late" etc. It's not even about that. It's CORRECTING THE WRONG DONE TO HER. The outrage viewers had over Loren Lott's firing lasted all of like a day or two until Y&R placated fans by bringing Mishael back at the same time. Why is more noise not being made about a Black actress being told "we have no story for you" yet they have no trouble with everyone else.

True, but she does follow certain people. It raises some questions. But you're right, she's definitely not pulling a Melissa Reeves so ...

That's fair. But these people have long been telling us who they were though.

Jennifer is very recastable. Just kill her off. Bring Melissa back to console Jack. Done. Wasn't Scott Reeves the uber Christian who basically converted her? I mean, like everyone else I guess i tried to ignore it because I still liked the character of Jennifer, but yeah ... I wrote her ass off a long time ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Sweeney was right there with her honestly. Recast Sami with Gina Tognoni and call it a day. Wanna bet Missy goes nowhere? Do we know Corday/Alarr's political standings? Yet Victoria Rowell gets spit on and speaks out and she's blacklisted. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

Yeah, agreed. Thankfully Scott, Gregg and Hillary are lively and animated and talkers. Some actors just aren't lol.

We so have the same taste in men lol! Enjoying seeing Gregg today? lol ... he's aged very very well I think Locher should stick with 2/3 people. It just works so much better.

I've always wanted the soaps to revert back to 15-30 minutes. It could work very well now, IMO. And even do what DAYS has done: mini-series webisodes with characters not currently on the main canvas. So many opportunities!

Oh I don't disagree on this. At all. I felt a lot of the same way at the time you did. The tone set was: "Denise is awful and Lily should be raising her daughter instead" and it left a bad taste in my mouth. I loved Denise but I know she wasn't well liked and it was likely done on purpose. I feel like Hillary on Y&R suffered a lot from this type of writing as well, in a slightly different way. Other examples exist of course too. Yeah it did surprise me. I still don't think they handled Denise well like Carl has said but I do think they hit on beats we didn't necessarily give them credit for. But there was also an insulting tone to some of it, like I said above to Carl. To be fair though, 1998 was hot garbage and 1999 had Lorraine Broderick (I believe, right?). Denise was introduced in 1998 (I believe) and she definitely had lesser writing. Broderick is very underrated, even though most of us here appreciate her. I also think when I rewatch certain stuff from when I was watching and the shows were on a decline, I just appreciate more what I didn't then. Maybe it's just seeing a set that got forgotten about or the use of veterans, or maybe it was a scene between characters that was just so well done. IDK if that makes any sense ... lol. Anyway, sorry for slightly derailing the thread a bit ...

I do wish Ellen could see it wasn't exactly Erika demanding all of that, though. But then again, Erika could have stepped up and said something because I think it was clear she saw what was going on. Watching that wedding definitely confirms everything Holly has said and it's nice to see. I believed her, of course, but seeing it? Yikes that was SO blatant and horribly done. I love Ellen Holly and will never not be pissed at how she (and many many many other actors of color) was treated. The sad thing is, it STILL happens in entertainment today. STILL. Just read a story about a Disney theme park castmember and it was an eye opening read but if you're shocked you haven't been paying attention.

I have to agree on this. Watching some of that timeframe again and it's not nearly as bad. I think we tend to watch things at the time through a certain negative lens and then years later, rewatching, I feel differently about a lot of things I didn't like when I watched originally, lol. They even had a good conversation between Denise and Lily about race. It wasn't major or groundbreaking but I stopped and it caught my attention. Considering what came later, it's crazy that 1999-2001 ATWT to me is much better than I gave it credit for. For me though it's a lot of little things, not necessarily the storylines.

It's almost always better when it's just one or two actors and Alan. Four or five doesn't work. I didn't even expect some of the actors he got so I'm sure he'll get to just about everyone. It probably takes some time to get some people and set it all up. I'm still waiting for Eileen Fulton, however I wonder if he's avoiding her on purpose ...

Noooo stop it! lol. I didn't watch today and am actually kinda behind on some of them. Dying. My first Mindy was Krista, based on when I watched (started watching GL in 1997, and honestly at the time don't remember seeing Simms return for HB's funeral, I was young at the time so I didn't watch all the time and probably thought she was Krista; I always do my soap research though). She was always my favorite Mindy and I was so confused why she would just pop up for guest stints and never stick around. Always bugged me. That being said, I finally saw Simms as Mindy thanks to YouTube and fell IN LOVE with her. But at first I was like "nope, not today, no thanks" in all honesty. She was GREEN, IMHO. But that also could have been she was playing out the 'growth' in Mindy and also playing out what was written for Krista's Mindy. I was like "who the hell is this and where is my Mindy?" She certainly came into her own and damn I loved her as Mindy. I love them both as Mindy, honestly, for different reasons. Haven't see Hamilton yet. I have mixed feelings on Crampton. Adore her as an actress and loved her on Y&R, LOVED her. But there was a lot going wrong with GL when she arrived in the role and it was too much 'evil Alex and poor Mindy' for my tastes. Barbara felt limited in the role, to me. She wasn't bad but never really stood out IMO. She felt like a mix of Simms and Tesreau without the good writing. I can see why, on paper, they would cast her in the role. The show was pretty laser focused on Vincent Irizarry though and I think Mindy suffered a bit as a character after Simms left. They also kinda overdid the whole "Nick/Mindy" love story IMO. It felt Reilly-ish at times and a little too much both when Simms was leaving and then when Crampton came on/Mindy came back.

I'm SO many pages behind and OMG I saw that on Twitter when it came out and just died. DIED. And I agree with everyone on Alan Locher. He means well ... lol, but you've all pointed out his flaws and what's wrong with the streams. I'd love more indepth but we just aren't getting it with him. I agree with Carl that it's likely his PR and management background. Damage control is what they do. But Alan Locher, seriously, WE ALL KNOW about Zaslow so 🤷‍♂️ Anywho, back to reading the thread .... LOL I agree. But to be fair to him I think he 'knows' many of them and is trying to be personable by asking what they're up to in quarantine before jumping in but I'd love to see him get some help doing these. He means well ...

I've always felt the same way. Judi would have been good as Nancy, since Paulina basically turned into her and she and Rachel were as close as sisters would be.

I'm so glad he said those things! It's true! ATWT was NOT good those last years. But so many just loved Pissy's years. I don't get it. (I also don't think Kreizman had enough time to make any impact, not that I think he could have saved the day, of course)

I actually don't hate the porn opening now. LOL

That's disappointing. I've always loved her and would love to hear her really go in-depth. Wonder why she hasn't popped up on Locher's channel yet?

I just like blaming Jill for everything LOL. No yeah I hesitated saying that I know it was during Laibson's stint (too bad he didn't work out) ... I do have to agree it was probably more Curlee/Demorest than her that used her. To be fair to her she did add Leslie, Tyler and Mason when she joined Y&R.