KMan101

I both understand and don't understand pairing Sharna and Brian. I like Brian but honestly I think Sharna could do better 👀 And yup. They want those viral moments. When you think about it, a lot of shows seem driven by the desire to have 'viral moments' Yep. My Mom loved DWTS. She watches The Voice now. Not even joking lol. I've never cared much for The Voice for whatever reason. It's interesting because I thought my Mom wouldn't like Tyra when she hosted America's Got Talent, but she did (Tyra was much better there IIRC) but yeah dumping Tom was a HUGE mistake. I believe ABC saw "an old white guy" hosting and Tyra was an appealing replacement. It just hasn't worked. Now NBC has got him. NBC always picks up Fox and ABC personality's that are discarded. LOL

They have nothing to replace it with LOL. They could get even worse results ... but yeah The Talk feels dead to me. It has for a while. They tried salvaging it with male co-hosts. The idea wasn't bad but the audience just isn't there. I know people appreciated the anti-View aspect of The Talk but fluff and constantly losing co-hosts doesn't get you viewers. I thought it was a stupid idea way back when it replaced ATWT. And it's gotten further from it's original idea.

Terry 'Rocky' is really Tom Cotton

Again. THIS. I noticed an improvement when Dan came onboard. I question Van Etten.

I love Madison but yeah, she's not a lead actress and they aren't going to write her as one. And yep, the character has been a nonentity for so long ... They've had numerous opportunities in between her firings. Would you bother recasting a character they treat like, as Vee said, a nonentity?

That's what it feels like too. I'd really like more mixing of the cast (it was great seeing Kayla in the Brady Pub on Friday and then later at the hospital ... mix it up!) but it seems almost impossible at times with how they schedule, plan and tape things. I love her

Can't wait for Carly and Nina to 'face off'. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. It's all so odd. It's like Frank is trying to cater all the bases and we end up with no drama. That's definitely simplifying things but still. Just how it comes across. And as you said, the selling of Jarly started late in the game and was rushed, without any real conflict. Yet, this coupling and the drama surrounding them and Sonny returning writes itself. So .... It's all so odd. And such a letdown.

So many need to go. Better writing for many of them would help but I don't have the patience anymore. I agree to an extent. Why are they there? If you aren't going to write for them or use them ... I love seeing them, personally, over many others, but there's no effort to write them as their own characters really, if that makes sense. I think as legacy characters they SHOULD be there, but they're written as forgettable. I guess if Justin is gone like I heard, we need a lawyer so they'll use Belle I guess. Shawn should be in Rafe's spot. Rafe should be dead.

This. You can see it with Frank. He's so deliberately tone deaf. I can see the man shaking his head not understanding why people 'dont get his vision'. He really believes in his head he's producing a great soap.

"We are the Charlie to his Lucy" Perfectly sums it up But many of us have seen Frank being the problem for years and years and years (I'd argue even back when he was the OLTL 'savior' I saw the same issues). 9 months of Sonny in Nixon Falls. Rushed Jason and Carly into marriage after spending weeks/months building up Jason and Britt (because Jason needs someone when Carson reunite ....) ... Such a letdown. But I expected to be. I was really hoping they'd get this right since it's the 'stars of the show' but nope.

You can have Charity Rhamer back then Well, Marlena would probably sacrifice herself for almost anyone but yeah, Belle would have made a lot of sense. It's unfortunate that she's written like an extra. Shawn and Belle deserve better treatment as younger leads. I imagine if Ron tried to have Belle possessed someone would say "who? why?" LOL and that's sad to me.

Frank has shown his ass in the last two months I feel ... just about everyone has noticed the interference. Something many of us talk about but it seems to get brushed aside. Yep. Remember the Jean and Shelly years? Lord. This is gold compared to the Oscar, Drew and Kim years.

No they haven't been. I don't put as much stock in Nielsen ratings anymore but they do still show a trend. And it isn't good. And lol at Alan Sarapa the Twitter soap know it all. I mean all of us on here have been screaming interference. I'm just glad he's speaking about it because no one seems to be listening and they want to blame the writers (many believe Frank is a soap savior)

Yep. That's what I feared but I kept hearing "wait" "Sonny will be pissed" (even Mo was teasing "SONNY IS BACK") But all that means is Carson reunited and Jason being their bitch again. I would LOVE to be wrong. It sucks because the story was there. The writers get it but the end result sucks because Frank is seemingly afraid of any real drama (I also argue he panicked after the show busted up all the failed couples and islanded Sonny in Nixon Falls and stans were bitching on social media like you wouldn't believe - some STILL talk about Julian and how his death is why the show sucks - seriously). He has to stop catering and pushing his own agendas and let the writers write. I believe they're capable because of what they've done but there's been a clear shift. I do think some fault lies with them but if you're told what to write ... And not that I see ABC actually giving a damn and firing Frank, I'd rather not see the writers get scapegoated like they were the last few times.

I would like the pacing to be better. I'd have made some different choices like you stated above.

LOL I forget they are too! We see so little of them. I'd also rather see them than several other characters. Victor shows up soon-ish so I assume we see Maggie this month or next too.

I will give it a go. From the promos I feel like they've captured the tone and vibe I was hoping for. It looks well cast too. I think hopes are high for this one with ABC. I have to say the comedy lineup on ABC is pretty good. Goldbergs, Wonder Years, Conners ... even Home Economics isn't bad.

It does hurt the momentum. It's a big reason my viewing ebbs and flows and I tend to catch up in between. I think it's probably time to dump some characters and move some to recurring. I don't really know what would help.

We can't have nice things How soon before everything goes back to the way it was? Zzzzzzz

They really don't

A year later and she still is. She's so fake. This. It lacks warmth. Tyra comes off as fake and uninterested. Tom had a charm to him. You believe he cared about the contestants and that he was close to the dancers. It was SUCH a mistake to dump him. I've really lost interest. The "celebs" also don't really interest me. I find myself caring less and less each season, apart from a few (I have no interest in Lori Loughlin's spoiled daughter; they only went with her because Lori said no, IMO). Lots of Tyra friends ... but that's how she sold herself to them as host. I'd still argue she hasn't really brought any 'big' names. I think ABC was smart to tie up Derek as a judge, and I LOVE Len is back (he's why I'm trying to watch this season) but the 'rush the judges' thing is annoying. Pacing is a big problem with DWTS lately. This has become a prime example of "don't fix what isn't broken"

I know it's an annoying hanging story thread (Ron loves them) but I really don't care about Sarah 👀 Gwen and Xander can join her there.

Yeah, I assume the DH's episode guarantee was stockpiled, if you will, and we see them more than we usually do but yeah, there's not the luxury of having characters on 4-5 days a week to play out a story. Sidenote, I feel the lower guarantees, while I get it, hurt the flow big time on DAYS. Ron could also make better choices but he has a formula that he was trained with on the ABC soaps and he uses it on DAYS.

This. It *has* to be Marlena. As did I way back in the day when he played Stan. He's good. Lots of actors could play Eric though. I love Vaughan but Eric is totally recastable.

I blame the writing and the way Susan Hayes has played her (over the top). The underlying 'Julie is racist' stuff didn't help endear her to anyone. I adore her but I can see why people don't. She played it very well on Friday and reminded me why I love her. Glad you enjoyed the episode. I haven't seen it yet.