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Another interesting fact, Lorimar produced those best-selling Jane Fonda videos.  

5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Was Lorimar the CBS primetime soaps too? If I hear he got up to anything on those shows I will want to vomit...

According to Wikipedia, Lorimar produced Dallas, Knots Landing and Falcon Crest.  I don't think Moonves arrived at Lorimar until the mid 80s though.

By the way, Lorimar became a subsidiary of Warner Brothers in the early/mid 90s and Moonves ran the television division.

4 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Hunter was on NBC thought NOT CBS 

Hunter was produced by Lorimar, which is where Moonves was president before he went to CBS.

Lorimar also produced Full House, which was on ABC.  Moonves greenlit Full House.

Can only imagine the inner monologues Naomi Osaka had during this encounter... can this photo be my avatar? pic.twitter.com/GvSEKabbS7

— Reem Abulleil (@ReemAbulleil) September 12, 2018

I'm not 100% sure it's Kramer (how can anyone be, with the list of wronged women in the Moonves universe?) but doesn't it seem like she disappeared? 

It's easy to forget but the show was pretty big in its day and Kramer was a star back then (I hate to use the word sex symbol) on a highly rated primetime show.  Back when you could actually have a hit primetime show on a Saturday night.

The fact that there are so many bonafide candidates for the victim's identity just speaks to how profligate Moonves is.  The fact that he's been at it since the beginning of his career as an executive is truly abhorrent.

I mentioned Kramer previously in this thread when I read that article in The New Yorker last month.  Someone posted that article in this thread about a month ago. 

Any way you put it, policewoman or detective Kramer literally played both on Hunter.  And the show was produced by Lorimar, I believe.

No matter who the victim was, Moonves was/is a disgusting person.

9 minutes ago, John said:

By 1992 DW was Horrid and ES was in S3 and only laste one more year

 

LM came in 1995 and MSW ended 1996 so I believe it was Angela Langsbury

But Murder She Wrote also had at least three subsequent T.V. movies that ran into the early '00s.  

This is adorable.

Technically Angela Landsbury's character was not a detective.  She was a writer who also happened to solve mysteries.

I still think it was Stepfanie Kramer.  She was a police detective who wore plainclothes for most of the series.

11 hours ago, Juliajms said:

 

Now??!  They should've always been.  All the signs were there that this was classically Russian neuro/chemical attack.  The hallmarks are all there but because the U.S. now has a Russian-compromised government at the highest levels, the signs were ignored.  It was more convenient to blame and cut emerging ties with the Cubans.

There are scientists who've been saying that Russians have been using sonic waves since the late 70s.

Also, I am aghast that all that water was sitting on a tarmac in P.R. when people were literally dying of thirst! Beyond unacceptable.

Yeah, anyone who saw that segment online or on TV, it seems like they are preparing for Chen's imminent departure from The Talk. 

Like I said, I don't know about Big Brother but I don't see how anyone can think she'd be staying on a daytime talk show that is targeted toward a female audience and in the #MeToo era.  Especially seeing as she's used the show to defend her husband's actions and make questionable statements against his perceived would-be adversaries. 

Here is a somewhat interesting (and thankfully relatively brief) assessment of Moonves' rise and fall at CBS. People should be aware that his atrocious predator behavior predates his career at CBS.  I'm still curious about the actress that he victimized while at Lorimar (apparently he stuck oil career-wise because of his greenlighting Full House).

Les Moonves Put CBS on Top. Then It All Came Crashing Down.

ICYMI, Trump is a genuine, dyed in the wool sociopath.

Flashback: Thousands of people died on 9/11 but Trump’s initial reaction was happiness his building was the tallest again

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— jordan (@JordanUhl) September 11, 2018

Trevor Noah does an interesting take on the situation in the most Trevor Noah way.

This Serena Williams story is bigger than what went down at the U.S. Open. #BetweenTheScenes pic.twitter.com/u2MaiIcME6

— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) September 11, 2018

5 hours ago, Dax7000 said:

I wish there was more Youtube videos of the plot to kill Lisa that occurred between 88-89 after Earl went missing. I think the episode just before James henchman tried is uploaded, but not the actual part where they try. I am so mystified that so much "new" All My Children content is steadily uploaded from the 80's and 90's, but so little ATWT. Was AMC the most popular soap during those years?

There seems to be quite a bit of AW's episodes being posted lately too.

It looks like there is a lot of ATWT uploaded to You Tube but in reality, there are many duplicate and incomplete episodes posted. 

There are quite a number of key episodes missing:

1). critical resolutions to some of the show's most popular murder mysteries (just about every entertaining murder mystery of the 1980s and 1990s).

2). Kim's fraught labor (which literally took place around Labor Day Weekend 1986) where Casey Peretti helped to delivery Bob and Kim's son Christopher (at the same time Craig and Sierra were literally making a baby, unbeknownst to them).  

3). What happened after Bob walks into the house where Beau Farrell's crazy sister was lying in wait for him?  (It was strike material but still...)

1 hour ago, JaneAusten said:

I read that earlier today and was going to post it and appreciate you doing this. It's a lesson most who actually serve and see war ,over those who sit back in DC or anywhere else around the country untouched do not. I wonder if it's we have gotten immune, the media is in bed with the military pushing war narratives, or that it's no longer :"sexy" enough to be on the front page every day or the lead story like it was during Vietnam. Having an all volunteer army is certainly a factor.

 

The interesting point he made is Bin Laden is dead but he's still winning. We continue to expend ungodly amounts of money on our military, expanding our military involvement around the world in the name of ? No one even knows anymore.

 

What I was surprised with were the comments following the Op-Ed. Most of the comments were from people who agreed with the author. Yet here we still are. It's sobering.

There's a book I read a few years ago called How To Win A Cosmic War by Reza Aslan (who also used to be my secret crush a few years ago, lol) where the premise was essentially what this op-ed essay was about- in short, the way to win a cosmic war was by not fighting one, in the first place.

When you choose to fight with people who are conditioned to think of endless war and want to draw an enemy into a constant fight so that an otherwise democratic society degrades, that is when the war is won by those who want endless war.  It's the militaristic version of dragging their enemy down to their level.

It was a fascinating book and when I read this essay, the content very much reminded me of that Aslan book.

Since September 11th, 2001, I've observed that symbols have taken on an ultra importance---the flag, lapel pins, the national anthem...rather than the ideals behind them. 

Entertaining the idea of torture by waterboarding, interment camps and detention without due process are all acceptable, but don't you dare be caught not standing with your hand over your heart during the national anthem!  For god's sake, no kneeling either!  Don't be caught in public without a lapel pin if you're in public service at a public event! 

To me, the symbols seem pretty empty without defending the ideals behind them (the right of peaceable public assembly aka 'protest'), knowing one's rights and asserting them, even when confronted by authority, the right to challenge public officials who are failing to act on behalf of the public good--clean air, clean water, to be safe and not shot and killed in one's own apartment---all that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, etc., etc.

Anyone who is not seen to be falling in line with the display of those patriotic symbols is seen as unpatriotic but to me, but to me, nothing is more patriotic than wanting your country to do better for the most marginalized and vulnerable in society and challenging those in power to do so.

Normally, I try to refrain from posting Op-Ed pieces because so many are problematic, to say the least.

This one is a worthy read, especially today.

The Real Lesson of Sept. 11

Do people think that Moonves was living paycheck to paycheck?  The man was getting like $60 million a year under contract. 

Even if he doesn't see a dime of the $100 million financial package, he's STILL GOT MONEY, y'all!

Not to mention stocks, bonds, annuities, RothIRA moneymarket account, property and savings, onshore and likely offshore accounts.

He and Julie are obscenely wealthy.

Meanwhile, the maintenance staff, low-level production staff, make a tiny fraction of what even the least useful executive at CBS makes.

I am slightly intrigued about the fate of these shows (neither of which I actually watch) but honestly, I could give a toss about where and how Moonves and Chen land. They won't be poor.

Still waiting on a hearing regarding the loss of lives in Niger but I'm guessing we'll never get one because...Africa, right?

OMG @ this thread!

The judge also dinged Butina's lawyers for submitting videos hours before the hearing, incl. one of Butina and her boyfriend Paul Erickson lip syncing to "Beauty and the Beast" — the judge found it was not relevant to whether Butina should stay behind bars https://t.co/sYueRy4sRh

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) September 10, 2018

Julie Chen addressed her absence from the season nine premiere of #TheTalk in a statement: "I am taking a few days off from 'The Talk' to be with my family. I will be back soon and will see you Thursday night on 'Big Brother'" https://t.co/cYfTxp4th9

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) September 10, 2018

It gets worse every day.  The ICC is there for a reason.  It is not perfect, but think where society would be globally if the ICC had not been there in the aftermath of war in the Balkans and genocide in Rwanda or civil war in Sierra Leone. 

You cannot weaken the one institution that actually has some successful prosecutions of war criminals!  

So does this mean that Trump and his cabal have more in common with the likes of Slobodan Milosevic than any democratically-minded head of state that respects international rule of law, like the Geneva Convention?

The Trump administration is expected to raise the specter of sanctions against the International Criminal Court if it moves to investigate the US or Israel, according to an official familiar with planned remarks by US National Security Advisor John Bolton https://t.co/obbvGAgOMJ

— CNN (@CNN) September 10, 2018

Weren't people last year saying essentially the same thing about Federer and Nadal last year?  That they shouldn't have been able to carve up the GS like they did in 2017?  I mean, whatever.  Training, equipment is not the same as the 80s, 90s or even the early '00s.

I'm more concerned with the lack of diversity in regards to court speeds (they're all to effin' slow!) and the lack of diversity economically and racially (tennis is still dominated by bluebloods and lily-white and I'm not just talking about among the players, I'm talking about the decision-makers).

I mean, if they want to make ages of the players the hill they die on, they can go right ahead.

Speaking of diversity-

 Here is one example of how a Japanese media broadcaster is reporting the story of Naomi Osaka's win locally.

Naomi Osaka's Historic Feat

I forgot to mention @I Am A Swede that I read an article last week about Swedish elections so I was paying to the results of your elections.

Ah, I see @Brolden.

Carry on!

His doctor too?  It is not an exaggeration to think that no woman is truly safe around Leslie Moonves. The anecdotal evidence just keeps getting worse.