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If anyone wants market and affiliates Broadcasting did a tv year book for many years and listed all markets and each affiliation https://worldradiohistory.com/Broadcasting-Yearbook.htm

Hey everyone. I got a bunch of scripts from 1970 - 1971. Pretty much every script. Just missing Mar 03 - 16, 1970 and a few randoms here and there. I can't share the actual scripts but I am putting together synopsis that I will share this weekend. The only reason I am bringing this up is because I just read through May 1971 and can confirm Erica had her abortion in Pine Charles performed by Dr. X on May 10, 1971. So this clears up a bit of history. Erica wanted Jeff to arrange an abortion through proper means, I assume this meant getting one in New York, but he wants to keep the baby, she tells him either he arranges it by proper means or she will arrange it herself. So it wasn't 1973 as mentioned and it wasn't a legal abortion.

Only thing I could see was a College football game Alabama-Boston. Was it something different?

Jason this is fantastic. I had really wanted to see the Iran Contra pre-emptions, thank you for posting these. Has cleared a lot up

Based on the news at the time that I shared in a previous post, that Doris Quinlan and Colgate wanted Harding Lemay and NBC wanted the Ellis' to stay, makes me think NBC felt they knew better and they could bring the show around. I think it showed in 1980, at least, NBC had an interest in the show, enough to push back. Maybe the fact ABC owned GH, AMC and OLTL by that point and they were the top rated shows made NBC believe the problem with their line up was the fact they didn't own the shows on their schedule and they wanted more control. Cut out the middle man, so to speak. Just a guess

NBC bought the show at around the time of these last episodes. Aug/Sep 1980. That might explain it all. I am shocked they wiped episodes post 1980. Colgate would have nothing post Sep 1980 since they no longer owned the show. NBC fired Doris Quinlan in Sep 1980, just after they bought the show and replaced her with James Baffico, as she and Colgate wanted Harding Lemay in as HW and NBC wanted the Ellis' to stay. The shows decline in ratings was blamed more on Quinlan. NBC even hired Joe Rothenberger as Line Producer as he had worked with them on ATWT. Though it was all for nothing as they gave Ralph and Eugenie the boot Dec of that year.

Thank you so much for this synopsis! Interesting, thanks for that info. So I wonder if Funt & Lesan were there into 1969? Then Lesan teamed with Robert Newman and Doris Frankel.

I've narrowed her start date to May 12, 1983

The last mention of Kanter and Frankel was Aug 17, 1970 The first mention of Scofield was Nov 20, 1970 I don't have anything more detailed unfortunately

Wow, I am stunned. Another legend gone. RIP Andrea. It sounds like she was an amazing person offscreen as well as on. I can't thank her enough for all the great times she has given me watching her on screen. Also shout out to her being brave enough to take on the role of Patty Williams just as that very long and pyschologically complex story was drawing towards its apex. That takes guts and talent.

This is what I have if it helps for the 60's and 70's Frank & Doris Hursley - Dec 30, 1957 - June 05, 1964 Julian Funt & David Lesan - First mentioned in Jul 66 but could have taken over from the Hursley's and were still mentioned as HW in Feb 1968 Leonard Kanter & Doris Frankel - No start date I could find only mention was Aug 1970 Lou Scofield - Mentioned in Nov 1970 Robert Soderberg, Edith Sommer, Ralph Ellis, Eugenie Hunt - The Ellis' script archive mentions Feb 17, 1971 until Dec 25, 1973 but the Soderbergs were there for at least the first few months Theodore Apstein - Dec 26, 1973 - Sep 02, 1974 Ann Marcus - Sep 03, 1974 - Nov 1975 (Likely around Nov 21) Peggy O'Shea - Nov 1975 - Dec 10, 1976 Irving Elman & tex Avery - Their script archive suggests Dec 13, 1976 - Aug 05, 1977 Robert Shaw - Aug 08, 1977 - Mar 1978 Henry Slesar - Mar 1978 - Sep 1978 The Corringtons - Sep 1978 - May 09, 1980 Linda Grover & John Porterfield - May 12, 1980 - Mar 1981 Harding Lemay - Mar - May 1981 Don Chastain - May - Dec 81 John Burnett & Millie Taggart - Dec 81 - Jan 82 Ralph Ellis & Eugenie Hunt - Jan 82 - Dec 82

Variety reported November 01, 1968 that Lou Scofield had joined and was aiding John Hess

Thanks for that info. Yeah I think Winsor was the main producer for LOL during this time and likely stepped in in that capacity and just kept things running until Pickard and Provo could get their stuff together. My guess would be Ettlinger might have had completed scripts run through a bit of Jan 1965 as the announcement of his departure from Love of Life and transferring to Flame in the Wind was January 03, 1965. In terms of Flame in the Wind. I think there was a slight heirarchy with Ettlinger consulting and Hardy taking his ideas up to Irna Phillips who then gave her ideas. So it would be impossible to know who came up with what story/character ideas. Plus likely they were consulting based on the writing team, so it is also possible in some cases they simply said the writers ideas were good and nothing was changed.

Yes Hardy was an associate producer on LOL. Apparently Irna Phillips was also a consultant on Flame in the Wind as well. I think she out ranked Ettlinger but apparently it all worked well, possibly with Irna having the more final say on things. Not sure Pickard and Provo may have been there from the time Ettlinger left and just writing through the remainder of his projections. They have story projections and breakdowns in their script archive starting with 1964. I also read somewhere (and don't know where) that Roy Winsor was HW in 1965. Maybe he went uncredited for a few months while Pickard and Provo got their stuff together? The first script listed for Pickard and Provo is #3531 April 05, 1965 and the last #3630 Aug 20, 1965 I'm inclined to believe Winsor stepped in for a few months. Maybe Jan - Apr 1965

I found a piece in Variety that stated Ettlinger left Love of Life around Dec 64 or Jan 65 to work as a consultant on A Flame in the Wind. Joe Hardy brought him over. Also from Variety Robert Soderberg began writing duties March 28, 1966

But how does that explain Beau Kazar? He stayed for 9 months past that. I wish we could get actual contract information. My bet is on 2.5 years and JLB re-signed early, say Dec 1979 and had the two months maternity leave added. That takes us to August 1982

Mysterious Island was CBS and aired Dec 01, 1979 I wonder what the contract terms were in Dec 78. If it was 3 years then she did both those shows in 1979 and was basically out all of 1980 due to her difficult pregnancy and more than two months of maternity leave, which apparently was added to the length of her contract. Even after she returned from maternity leave she wasn't working as much on Y&R intially. I'd say the idea of doing more work outside of Y&R wasn't as appealing as it had been prior to her pregnancy and likely nothing of value came along in 1981. I wonder if this was the case, meaning that contract would have come up around Feb 1982, she made it known she was planning to leave and agreed on a shorter six month stint. I did forget to mention. When Bill Espy left in Sep 1975 he stated in an interview he left when his contract came up. So it is possible 2.5 year deals were offered as well.

If Days had been in better shape, I'd say Y&R would have dropped far further in the ratings during this period. Days struggling more was a saving grace in a lot of ways. Though I also think Y&R had a strong base viewership who were willing to weather the storm.

Nikki had also just killed her father Nick Reed a week or so prior and that may have brought people in that stayed. I'm also fairly certain Y&R dominated the summer of 79 and was #1 for a lot of it.

These are the top 10 tv markets prior to the expansion but post April 1979 for CBS The ones in blue are affiliates and the green/turquoise are O&O's Here is 6 months after Y&R went to 1 Hour

I wonder how many markets shifted Y&R in Feb 1980. I looked at the Top 10 TV markets and most had already moved the show down an hour starting in April 1979 when CBS' new game Whew began. Those that didn't time shift in April 1979 also kept the show in the same timeslot even after its expansion to an hour. I wonder if this happened in other markets and ultimately how many had to time shift Y&R on Feb 04, 1980.

Laemmle was announced in Jan 1980 and as a replacement for Elizabeth Harrower and so there was a delay between Harrower leaving and Nina starting. Maybe when Al Rabin came in, he quickly hired Ruth Brooks Flippen to clean house for him, possibly so Nina could come in with a "clean slate" Would be interesting to know what the deal was.

Probably old info but I believe starting in 1977 up until 1995 the season ended the third Sunday in April and after a dead ratings week (usually just over a week), May Sweeps would begin. It was in early 1996 that all four networks agreed to start incorporating May Sweeps into their overall season. This was previously only for local stations (ind. and affiliates)

I think the lead up to Jill marrying Stu and the aftermath of Lorie finding out Leslie was pregnant with Lance's baby and almost having the baby in GC might have drawn people in. It may have played out better than it reads

Yeah 100% LOL was probably on 18 min without commercials. I think even B&B is close to 20 min or maybe 19 these days Yes I have an approximate date of Sep 11 for their start