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There was someone else who worked in soaps who had nothing good to say about the expansion and I can't remember who it was. Maybe a writer who largely left the format before the expansion and was connected to AMC. She refused to watch the show and said going to an hour would kill soaps and water down the shows social relevance. She apparently didn't think much of AMC since it had gone to an hour. I'll try to find the quote again. Side note there is an audio recording of one of the summer 75 hour long test episodes on youtube for anyone that might be interested. Here is Part 1

Oh it was just correspondence between Bill Bell and an exec at Screen Gems who wasn't as optimistic about Y&R in 1973. They included the first 10 weeks of ratings and how many telecasts for each of those weeks, only missing one week for the Fast National. If there was any Days stuff I would 100% share with you

That's awesome, yes would be very helpful. Thank you so much for all the help with this and sharing everything. Has made such a big difference.

Thank you for the update. I think the big issue for Y&R was that it was on 12pm eastern and the hearings were supposed to break each day at 12pm eastern for lunch until 2pm, but sometimes went over. I have all the dates CBS broadcast the hearings, but not 100% sure which days the committee decided to keep going with testimony and CBS pre-empted Y&R. We know the number of pre-emptions from 1973 were 15. One being for Thanksgiving but not Christmas. Also from some other research I have 4 confirmed from Screen Gems from May. So I guess we could just do a process of elimination on the final 10. I have a rough idea so even having ratings weeks around that time might be helpful. There is one possible Oct 25 one for Henry Kissinger's press conference that would be the only one I would not be able to fully confirm.

Not to mention Jacqueline Courtney and George Reinholt leaving AW for OLTL along with Virginia Dwyer and Susan Sullivan leaving/being written out Bill Espy and Donnelly Rhodes exiting Y&R and David H coming on Bill Bell stepping down as HW at Days and Susan Flannery departing Bridget and Jerome Dobson leaving behind GH for GL Along with plenty more that made the Daytime headlines that year

I think there were a couple weeks from 1978 missing Same, especially those wretched Watergate pre-emptions, haha

Not sure I totally get it but sounds like the 11.0 for AW was a peak audience at any given time during the shows airing. Maybe a lot of people watch the first 5ish minutes then change the channel. Or come in during a commercial break for a short period. I'm pretty sure 3pm was a big viewing time and there was a larger available audience than other time slots in the day. A bit confusing not sure if anyone else has better insight.

So crazy as I was thinking about her yesterday and then a post popped up on my FB feed as well. I was literally just downloading from there this morning. I got the All in the Family special from 1974 which was a 1977 rebroadcast but nothing Y&R or soap related was on there.

Vanessa first appeared May 28, 1976

I only had Jan 01, Aug 16 and Nov 25 previously. CBS had the 15 min rule. If 15 min or more was interrupted it triggered a full pre-emption. Y&R got on air before the 15min point but was taken off again. I'd say Nov 03 is correct.

Damn, lol. Not the easy answer I was hoping for. I guess that might be it. Maybe they played it but decided to replay the next day and so it counted as a full pre-emption

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Yes it was illegal

Interesting. Charles Frank and Susan Blanchard auditioned together. She spoke of believing that the show didn't want her, so she just did her best to help Charles get the role and spent so much time looking at him lovingly that it kinda started something between them. I wonder when Charles took over the role and if it was at the same time Susan did, or if he was hired and she wasn't but got the part later.

Just to clarify this one, this is households not people/viewers. The amount of viewers may have been higher. Even with two people per household you'd have around 13M viewers. Nielsen didn't give viewer/audience estimates until a bit later. Nielsen households was actually 6,540,000 for that week. Not sure why the number is different. So it depends on what the viewer estimate per household is. Say it was 2 per household and the show scored 9 - 12M per day for four days and 20M one day, it is possible it averaged 13M viewers for the week.

Yeah the misconception was that it was 1973, but after we got so much synopsis from the Daytime Serial Newsletter, it became clear it had happened earlier and many assumed 1972. I was surprised to learn it was 1971 and only 5 months after Jeff and Erica were married (they wed in Dec 1970). Their divorce isn't finalised until April 1974.

To clarify, and I guess this is another error to add to the list. Erica's abortion happened the week of May 10, 1971 before Roe vs. Wade but after New York had made it legal with certain stipulations. Erica tells Jeff that she wants an abortion, he is almost on board until his father Joe talks him out of it. Erica tells him to either arrange one by proper means (meaning in New York) or she would seek one by improper means (In Pine Valley) He doesn't and she does.

I think so, I believe during their first run on the show.

Marland took over in Nov 1977. I have a Dec 77 article that states Marland went to GH and Mel and Ethel Brez went to The Doctors the previous month, just not sure if that means they began writing the show but scripts began airing in Dec 77 or if their episodes were airing through Nov 77. Interestingly, Mel and Ethel Brez were hired by NBCD in the summer of 77 and put through a HW workshop intensive with the goal being that they would take over one of the NBC soaps. I think this was always going to be TD. Since Harding Lemay and Ann Marcus seemed safe in their positions. Irving and Tex Elman's script archive suggests they wrote GH from Aug 04, 1977 - Sep 29, 1977 and the Hollands were likely there from Sep 30 - Nov 77. Given GH pushes up to a 7 the week of Nov 14, I wonder if Marland's scripts were already airing by then.

Thanks for tagging me in this. One thing I love about seeing these is, when you hear about the 50's soaps sometimes it is often talk about flubs and sets falling over and other things that make that era sometimes seem like a mess. Then you see these episodes and they are well crafted and acted and I find myself wanting to see more.

Haha, I think around this time many producers felt actors called in sick to grandstand for a better contract. Not sure if she was in negotiations at the time or not. I do feel it was the latter though, she just flaked, not sure why but I just get the vibe from the couple of episodes I've seen of her.

As I understand it, Kathy was unreliable and missing work. She claimed illness but I think the TPTB knew better, Julia Duffy came in to sub at one point and in a rare move for a soap, OLTL hired Judith Light as Kathy's understudy. The next time she called in sick, they dumped her for Judith. She cried foul and that's the last I could find about it all.

They went to jail in 1980, which was when the "kill switch" for Cy the assassin went off for Greg which resulted in Liz being shot. Maybe they were there for 6 years. I don't think it's ever mentioned. Can't remember if they went to prison in 1979 for the sex trafficking. If they did it must have been a light sentence since they were back at it a couple of months later.

Well he wasn't dead when they dumped him. Poor Tony Baker mugged him while he was on the ground in that alley way and got caught by the cops, the courts determined Addison died from the shock of being mugged. Tony went to prison for 30 years or so and Nikki didn't even get arrested. There's your story Tony comes back to seek revenge on Nikki......and then it turns out the crooked cops were working with Rose and Vince and Walter was alive the whole time.

They look like they were taken from here http://bit.ly/44pwzvs It is a onedrive dedicated to Y&R and GL. Go to the clips section from 1982 - 1988 are hours of clips of the show. Mostly Victor and Nikki. But all these clps look to be from the same source