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This might be the ad. Ran in the New York Daily News August 06, 1978

Lol, yeah I skimmed through too. Was pretty awful. Honestly feels like a patchwork of scenes thrown together. It is interesting how natural and at home Selleck seems here, while Jaime-Lyn seems a bit out of her element.

Oh right. Yeah could have been that too. If it was January, Lorie was pretty busy since this was around the time she found out Leslie was pregnant with Lance's baby. It does sound like it was part of the "third season" or basically "spring season" that was becoming more common back then I wouldn't mind trying to track the episode down. I wonder if it is floating around online Here it is. This was called The Chinese Typewriter but is Boston & Kilbride and has JLB in it

That's awesome. The three temps for Lorie that I know of were winter 77 (Lezlie Dalton) when JLB was ill, March - Apr 78 (Victoria Thompson) when JLB had her first baby and Jul - Aug 1980 (Wesley Ann Pfenning) when she had her second baby. Maybe there was a fourth in 1979 when she did the pilot since pilot season was traditionally in January. She may have need a couple days off.

I also found this, seems K.C was a novelist too.

ATWT had a big 25th Anniversary party at Radio City Music Hall in April 1981 and used this as an intro for new writer Paul Roberts. It was reported the Dobsons were let go. Apparently viewers and soap press were annoyed that they recycled stories from Guiding Light. Paul Roberts stories began airing mid April 1981 but the writers strike started Apr 11 (so pretty much the same time) He may have gotten about a month of story on air before being replaced and it seems he never returned. I assume this is why nothing of signifigance happened during the anniversary. All I could find about K.C Collier is the below. Maybe she went back to primetime but was never a major writer???

No worries. I had a quick look at HW info on the wiki page and noticed I had some info that contradicted this. It was widely reported in Feb 1970 that Irna Phillips was trying to get out of her contract with P&G. It was stated that the sponsors wouldn't allow it, but by March 1970 Irna had managed to free herself and move to ABC with her daughter Katherine, who had been assisting her at ATWT. Katherine is never mentioned as a HW only as a writer and I believe Katherine Phillips and Babecki are the same person A World Apart is considered her show and her first HW gig. Irna stated in interviews she had been HW with ATWT for over 12 years. Winifred Wolfe came on Sep 1970 and was there about a year. The Last mention I found was Nov 71, when an article states that John Boruff has joined as a writer of ATWT along with Warren Swanson. Both had previously left the show with Irna and Katherine to do A World Apart. So if Boruff, Swanson and Tillman took over as wiki states, it must have been brief since Irna returns in Jan 72. I couldn't find any info on any HW between Mar and Sep 1970. So I assume Joe Kane and Ralph Ellis are correct. Not sure if this is of interest but it is just some stuff I found. Also apparently K.C Collier's first move in 1981 was to get rid of Natalie. Seems she left town the week of Aug 10, 1981. So I guess K.C's scripts were airing by that week. If I come across other stuff on my searches I will post it here

Hey all. I don't really follow this thread, but on my research travels I found this. Not sure if it is known info or not, but thought I would share. Usually cast and writer info is needed for most shows. This is from Oct 10, 1981

So I figured out why I got confused with Lezlie Dalton being a temp replacement for JLB, turns out she did replace her during the winter of 77. I am just not sure when exactly. Honestly would have been odd if it was during Lance and Lorie's honeymoon. JLB was out sick

Thanks for the details. So this was a Pat Falken-Smith story. I had seen a clip at some point but it was fuzzy in my memory.

Yeah that was around 1975??? I think. He couldn't make it with Trish and thought he might be gay, but indeed Linda did "cure" him.

I assume this is when Ma Henderson and Bruce came to town. Robert Clarke joined Y&R in May 1973 and I would guess their Ma came at the same time. Yeah I think Liz was supposed to be worn out and aged from raising three children and doing manual labour at the factory. Jen was upper middle class, but yes Dorothy seemed a very 70's mod California socialite compared to what I assume many woman in the mid west might have looked like back then

I do think much of the summer of 73 was probably a diversion until Bell could get back and write the show. He would have known the strike was coming up and maybe put some things in place so the strike writers couldn't mess things up too much. It seems like a somewhat uneventful summer from the pieces I have been able to put together but not a waste by any means Chris was most likely at Legal Aid with Greg pining away and Snapper attempting a reconciliation. She finds out Stu is paying her salary and quits Liz was probably in the hospital with her cancer story (And Jill was probably playing supporting to that - maybe her mysterious boyfriend Brent was added at this point) Maybe this health scare pushed Chris and Snapper back together shortly before her rape which happened in either late Sep or early Oct Jen and Bruce may have reconnected but I doubt anything significant happened Leslie and Brad would have been hanging out and doing the Pygmalion/My Fair Lady story and I am sure he was pushing her to play piano professionally. I do believe Leslie's big summer story was trying out for a symphonic ochestra and getting a place and going on tour in the autumn Sally and her diversion with Frank, though Bell did use this story as motivation for Sally to get pregnant to Snapper So there was movement, but I assume it was slow and nothing heated up again until September when Bell's scripts were most likely airing (I think the strike ended in Aug or around there) As far as the lesbian story. yes I do think Bell intended Kay to be bisexual but did what many Hollywood writers did during the Hays code years did and made it subtext. On Days there was the story with Eric Peters when his brother Greg finds out he has a young, attractive man living with him. I believe the way it played out, Bell had the audience and Greg intially believe the two were lovers, and there were always rumours about Stanley Kamel. I think those in the know probably saw Eric as gay or bi and his "roommate" as his lover, regardless of whatever was explained on screen.

Oh right, thanks for that info. Maybe she was writing on both in 1977 as she is listed as a writer on a May 09, 1977 script for Y&R (though that is the airdate so the script was obviously written in April) or maybe this was her last Y&R credit for 1977. I know she returned to Y&R by 1982 or around that time. Oh so wait Kenney was on Y&R at the same time Elizabeth was in 1982. She was there until about 1984/85 when Sally Sussman became a script writer (she had previously been a story consultant only, from 84 she was both)

I am betting anything from summer 73 was writer's strike material. Bell's projections would have been there, but he just wasn't writing the daily scripts. Then of course the show lost approximately two or three weeks over spring/summer due to Watergate pre-emptions. In terms of the move to an hour. It was supposed to happen in autumn 79 and was pushed back twice apparently, and this was at Bell's insistence as they said they were not ready. So yeah probably they were under the gun and asked for more time.

Never heard that, but it could have happened. Bell often had random call backs like this, but not sure. Also @mikelyons I assume you might be interested in this info for your Y&R writers thread? @Paul Raven I have a 1979 interview with Kay Alden I will post when I can find it. She mentions she and Bell write the show with one other person. I assumed it was John F. Smith but I guess it was Kathleen. Here it is from February 1979. They mention the other script writer is in Los Angeles. Though since this is from Feb I guess this was before Kathleen joined. Elizabeth Harrower was there from at least 1977, not sure when she left to do Days, so maybe it was Liz and then Kathleen came on in the summer and left in 1980 to do Texas, and that is when Jack Smith came aboard??? Also confirmation that the lesbian story was ditched due to negative viewer reaction. Kay mentions the audience was largely single women in the mid west. I wonder if they might have been more open to a bisexual man?? I always thought Jack should have been bi, and he and Ashley should have fought over Eric Garrison.

Maybe I got the name wrong. So in 1973, probably summer, Sally told Brad that she had a High School sweetheart Frank Martin (Jay Sanderson) she got pregnant and they gave up the baby. Frank turns up and tells Sally that he is engaged and his future wife is unable to have children, so he asks Sally to help him locate their daughter in the hopes he and his fiance can adopt her. However Frank and Sally grow close and Frank calls of his engagement. Eventually they find a nurse Jane Wilcox and she has Suzie (Frank and Sally's daughter) Jane's boyfriend doesn't want the girl and leaves Jane and Frank, feeling sorry for her, begins spending time with her and the girl. He and Sally drift apart (I believe this prompts Sally to forgo her birth control with Snapper) and Sally find out later that Frank and Jane married.

Thanks for that info. I don't know how I forgot Paul played Edward. Apparently Edward was going to have an exorcism and return to "normal" and remain on the show. Instead they blew him up, lol. I assume all the occult/satanic cults fascination of the 70's was probably the original influence. I doubt he would have been Marlena Evans style possessed, rather it might have been much like the book The Exorcist, where you are never sure if she was possessed or just mentally unwell. Based on Paul's age, I feel Jane Wilcox fiance seems the likely role he played, but who knows.

Yes in 1980, around Jul/Aug. JLB had complications with her pregnancy and had to leave early. Wesley Ann Pfenning came one for a few weeks then took Brooks to NYC for a book tour. JLB didn't return until Oct 80 and didn't seem to be on too much initially. Also found this TV By Day Sep 73. Anyone know who Paul Tulley played? I am guessing a somewhat minor role over the summer. Maybe Jane Wilcox fiance who didn't want Suzie???

Do you think it would have lasted if not for that? I actually looked into it more. CBS put it on Fridays at 8:30. Though it didn't lose much of its lead in from Evening Shade, neither show did well in the ratings, then again nothing was going to beat ABC's TGIF line-up

They might have. K.T played Helen Martin. Mother of David. He was in love with Julie but got Susan (Denise Alexander's character) pregnant. They married and planned to give the baby up, but Susan changed her mind and forced David to play happy families. David accidentally killed their son and Susan, in her grief, shot and killed David. Laura was Susan's psychiatrist during her trial. Though there is no real mention of it, Laura may have had a scene with Helen somewhere during this time. After Susan was acquitted, Helen shot Susan, I think she went to jail. I assume she did. Not sure what her story was when she returned in 1969 though.

Here are the last 4 scripts I have from May 77 EPISODE - #1044 WRITTEN BY – William J. Bell, Kay Alden & Elizabeth Harrower TAPE DATE – Friday April 29, 1977 AIR DATE – Monday May 09, 1977 CAST – Brock, Jack, Kay, Joann, Vanessa, Lance, Lorie, Caretaker (U/5) SETS – Allegro, Chancellor Living Room, Vanessa’s Room – Limbo – Two Way Mirror Wall SYNOPSIS BROCK/JACK/JOANN/KAY - Brock visits Jack at The Allegro and they discuss Brock’s matchmaking Jack and Jo. Jack is grateful and tells Brock he intends to fight for Joann. At the Chancellor estate, Kay spies Joann gorging herself on food. (Kay has several audio and visual flashbacks to EP#1019 – April 04, 1977, of Brock telling her she is destroying Joann with her possessive nature. What is Joann to do when Kay is too old? Joann is young, she needs to live her life, she is a prisoner in this house. If Duchess loves her, she will let her go. Duchess refuses to believe this, Brock tells her if she traps her here, they will end up hating each other) Kay then wonders if Joann’s sudden binge eating is because of feeling trapped. Kay decides to have a talk with Joann. It is clear the closeness they once had is tainted and Joann is staying out of loyalty and fear that Mrs. Chancellor will start drinking again. Kay tells Joann it seems as if she is looking for a way out and Kay plans to give her one. Joann thinks she has been drinking, though she hasn’t, Mrs Chancellor asks if she doesn’t stay on her good behaviour will Joann leave? Joann makes it clear it was Mrs. Chancellor’s threats that have kept her here. Kay thinks it is obvious Joann feels trapped. She tells Joann she wants her out of the house and out of her life. TONIGHT! With that she pours herself a drink and toasts to Joann’s health. Joann is furious and angrily tells Mrs. Chancellor she will leave and slams the door behind her. Kay says to herself that Brock was wrong, there was no way to have Joann leave and maintain her love and respect, she had to destroy it, or she would never have left. Kay trembles as she is about to take a sip, but instead hurls the glass across the room, smashing it. VANESSA/CARETAKER/LANCE/LORIE - Vanessa flashes back to her confrontation with Lorie (EP #1038 Act IV – April 29, 1977, Vanessa reveals her face to Lorie and then goes on a tirade against a shocked Lorie. I get the feeling this scene was repeated the following Monday as well) Vanessa calls Mr. Isaacs the caretaker and asks him to get her something. He later arrives at the lake house. He doesn’t think what she wants is a good idea for her to have and reluctantly gives her the package she asked for just as Lance arrives home. She swears Mr. Isaacs to secrecy. Lance chats to Vanessa about a Brooks family member in hospital (though doesn’t mention any names) He asks about the book (In My Sister’s Shadow) that Vanessa wanted him to read. She is tempted to give it to him, but notices Lorie has arrived, they stare intently at each other, then Vanessa tells Lance she doesn’t think he would like the book and that she no longer has it anymore, she heads to her room as Lance finally notices Lorie. Lorie tells him Leslie has gone into labour and wanted to be left alone. The doctor hopes they can stop the labour, but if they can’t she will miscarry (though script says abort) They comfort each other, and Lorie says she hopes she never does anything to make Lance regret marrying her. He is puzzled by this and hugs her tightly. Vanessa watches Lorie and Lance through the two-way mirror and has flashes of her unveiled face, and we hear Vanessa tell Mr. Isaacs she saw a prowler on her terrace. As she stares at Lorie she vows she will pay for what she has done. EPISODE - #1047 WRITTEN BY – William J. Bell & Kay Alden TAPE DATE – Wednesday May 04, 1977 AIR DATE – Thursday May 12, 1977 CAST – Leslie, Lorie, Dr. Williams, Joan, Brock, Jen, Brad, Jack, Man – Thirtyish and missing an arm (U/5) SETS – Leslie’s Hospital Room & Corridor, Booth at Allegro, Brad and Leslie’s Apartment and Corridor SYNOPSIS LESLIE/LORIE/DR.WILLIAM/JEN/BRAD/MAN - Dr. Williams has finished examining Leslie and runs into Lorie. She tells Lorie that the contractions had stopped around midnight and have not returned. Lorie asks if Leslie’s chances are good. Dr. Williams explains that things are still tenuous, and they won’t know for a couple more days. Lorie asks if Leslie has the baby what are the chances it will be okay. Dr. Williams says the chances are slim the baby would survive this premature. They both decide to focus on the positives and Lorie goes in to see Leslie. Leslie is upbeat, Lorie tells her she was worried when she asked to be alone last night. Leslie explains she needed to go through the previous night on her own. Les asks if Lorie has told Vanessa. Lorie tells her she didn’t really see her last night and avoided her this morning. Leslie asks if things are okay, Lorie tells her she feels she and Vanessa have an understanding now. Lorie wants to tell their parents about Leslie being in hospital, but Leslie refuses this. She is determined to get through the next 24 hours and be home with Brad without anyone knowing what has happened, Lorie tells her she will get through this. Though they don’t say it, both women aren’t as confident as they appear. Jen arrives at Brad’s as he is treating a patient. A young man who lost his arm in Vietnam due to a land mine. After the man leaves, Jen tells Brad how impressed she is that he is getting his life together. They discuss Leslie. That she called him recently and her concerts are going well. Jen reminds him she will be home tomorrow night and soon they will have a baby. Brad tells her how much it means to him, especially since Maestro cancelled her other concerts so they could have this time together. He wants to take every precaution to make sure the baby is born healthy and strong. He mentions they have decided on naming the baby Stuart if it is a boy and Leslie if it is a girl. Both gush over the impending birth and Brad tells Jen how Leslie is the only woman he has ever really loved (Lol poor Barbara) Jen thinks everything is perfect for them, but then remembers Brad is blind. She apologises, but Brad tells her it is okay, he doesn’t dwell on it anymore. Back at the hospital, Lorie tells Leslie she can’t be certain she will be able to leave tomorrow, but Leslie is determined she will get back to Brad on time. Leslie needs to call Brad; he is anxiously awaiting her call at home. Brad is overjoyed to hear from her, though senses something is wrong. Leslie covers and tells him she misses him. He can’t wait for her to return and reminds her they planned a night out of dinner and dancing. Leslie begins to have pain and quickly ends her call to Brad. Tears stream down her face as Lorie panics. Leslie stoically asks Lorie to get Dr. Williams and Lorie rushes out to find her. BROCK/JOANN/JACK - At Allegro Brock sees Joann looking for an apartment and they discuss Duchess kicking her out. Brock catches on to what his mother was doing and tells Joann his talks with Duchess may have prompted her actions. Joann tells Brock she could begin to get angry with how he is interfering in her life. Brock realises she is also talking about his matchmaking her with Jack. Jo tells him she and Johnny have little in common anymore. Brock reminds her they were married for six years. Joann doesn’t understand why suddenly Brock wants them back together. He explains that Joann never really let go of Johnny. She tells him she is fine on her own, she doesn’t need someone to look after her. Brock agrees but tells her we all need someone to care and love us. Joann reminds him that Jack is still married to Peggy. Brock tells her the marriage has been annulled. It was never consummated, and he doubts it was ever a real marriage to begin with. Joann is stunned. Alone, Joann hears Brocks words ring through her mind. She thinks about all the nights she thought about Jack and Peg making love. How she almost hated Peg for having something she and Johnny hadn’t shared for years. Now to learn that wasn’t how it was at all. They were living as strangers; it must have been hell. She thinks to the letter he wrote about how he was paying for starving Joann of love, how he understood what she went through. She thinks of the night he came over to Mrs. Chancellor’s. A night she could never understand until now (Joann then flashes back to EP#999 – Mar 07, 1977, when Jack sees her by the fireplace and puts his arms on her waist and they kiss, he tells her she looks like the women he married. They kiss again passionately) Joann thought that moment was Jack having a fling, taking advantage, and using her cruelly. (As Joann flashes again back to EP#999 she wonders if he was reaching out to her, and if he was, should that make a difference to her now?) She is startled out of her trance by Johnny. He asks if he can join her, she agrees. EPISODE - #1048 WRITTEN BY – William J. Bell & Kay Alden TAPE DATE – Thursday May 05, 1977 AIR DATE – Friday May 13, 1977 CAST – Leslie, Lorie, Dr. Williams, Brad, Ron, Jack, Joann, Lance, Brock, Kay, Fred Johnson, Young Man from Cleaners (U/5) SETS – Leslie’s Hospital Room, Brad & Leslie’s Apartment, Fred Johnson’s Office at Community Legal Services, Booth at Allegro, Chancellor Living Room, Pay Phone in Limbo (Presumably outside Ron’s Room) SYNOPSIS LORIE/LESLIE/DR.WILLIAMS/LANCE/BRAD/CLEANER - Lorie is comforting Leslie as Dr. Williams arrives. Leslie tells her the pain has subsided. Dr. Williams tells her to think of something happy to relax her while she examines her. (Leslie flashes back to EP#1033 Apr 22, 1977, When Brad tells her they are going out for dinner and dancing when she returns from her concerts. Les is so happy, this will be their first time out since his blindness. She then remembers Brad lifting the heavy suitcase and bumping into her) Dr. Williams tells her she is dilating; they need to get her to the delivery room. Lorie and Les know the chances for the baby surviving are slim and embrace as Brad waits at home. He hands his tux to a cleaner and tells him it is important he gets it back by tomorrow night, he has a very special date with his wife. Lorie, alone in Leslie’s room, is relieved when Lance shows up. Lorie fills him in. Lance tells her Brad called and wants to see her. Lorie is concerned he may know something and agrees she has to see him to find out. Lorie wonders if they are doing the right thing by keeping this from him. Lance reminds her it is what Leslie wants. Lance agrees to stay at the hospital while Lorie is gone. Lorie visits Brad. He tells her he had planned to ask her and Lance to join him and Les for their night out the following evening but decided it should be just him and Les. He begins to gush about the impending birth of his baby as Lorie closes her eyes and tries to fight back her tears. He wonders if she thinks he is being foolish, she tells him she doesn’t, he tells her how much this baby means to him, especially after losing his son. Lorie doesn’t want to talk about that, and Brad senses something is wrong, has been wrong the last few times she has visited. Lorie brushes it off and hastily leaves. Brad is puzzled and Lorie stands outside fighting back the tears. RON/FRED - Ron calls to find his lawyer Fred. He finds out he is in court and tells reception he is on his way to see him. Fred returns to his office to find Ron. Ron is furious because Dr. Hanlin barred him from seeing Nancy. He admits he got a little rough with her the last time he was there. Fred isn’t surprised the Doctor banned him. Ron is certain the place is making her worse and wants her home with him. Fred doesn’t think this is a good idea and after all he is the one that put her in there in the first place. It then dawns on Ron that if he is Nancy’s husband and he put her in there, he can take her out. Fred tells her if he values her mental health at all he will leave her there until she is better. Ron doesn’t believe she is getting better. He asks if he can take her out, but Fred sidesteps the question. Fred’s avoidance and silences tell Ron everything he needs to know. He is convinced now that he can walk into the hospital and take her out and there isn’t a thing they can do to stop him. JACK/JOANN/BROCK/KAY - Jack and Joann talk about his annulment. The dreams he had and how it is all gone. Jack wonders how they got here, if they had it to do all over again, would they make the same mistakes. Joann asks him to think hard, is his newfound interest in her because of her weight loss, is it because he is lonely, and she is a standby. He goes to answer, but she puts a finger to his lips and tells him to think on it and be honest with himself. Brock stops by to see Duchess and tells her he knows what she did. He understands how much of a sacrifice it must have been to let go of Joann. Duchess tells him he can’t know; he is young and handsome and people like being with him. She is old and alone, no matter what, she always ends up alone. She tells Brock he lied. She doesn’t have Joann’s love and respect, she had to destroy it, otherwise Joann would never have left. Brock tells her in time Joann will understand the gift she has given her, and one day she will realise just how much Duchess truly loves her. Kay laments Joann’s leaving. She tells Brock if she died tomorrow no one would care. He tells her Joann would, and he would. He knows he doesn’t say it enough, but he truly loves her. Duchess begins to cry as they embrace, Brock tells her when we hold on to something selfishly it will escape our grasp, but when we give freely, the love will return to us a thousand-fold. Duchess is sceptical but is affected by his words. He wipes her tears and kisses her gently on the cheek. EPISODE - #1051 WRITTEN BY – William J. Bell, Kay Alden & Elizabeth Harrower TAPE DATE – Tuesday May 10, 1977 AIR DATE – Wednesday May 18, 1977 CAST – Kay, Joann, Liz, David Mallory, Ron, Nancy, Miss Simpson, Dr. Hanlin, Jill, Derek SETS – Allegro, Foster Living Room, Nancy’s Room at State Mental Hospital, Golden Comb Beauty Shop SYNOPSIS KAY/JOANN - Kay meets with Joann at Allegro and convinces her to sit for a cup of tea. Though reluctant, Joann agrees to hear Mrs. Chancellor out. Kay tells her what she feels happened between them. She reminds her of her time with Jill, how she needed companionship and how betrayed she was by Jill. Though she explains Jo never betrayed her, she draws a parallel between her feelings for Jill and Joann. She wanted their youth. She felt trapped by her own frustrations. She explains the love she felt was real, but it was a mother’s love. This lifts a great weight off Joann. It is all so clear now. Joann is almost ready to move back in, but Kay tells her though she wanted to mother her, she isn’t necessarily a good mother. All the negative aspects are still there, the possessiveness and jealousy. Though now they can be friends again. Mrs. Chancellor tells her she will be there whenever Joann needs her (Ed. Note – Bell makes it clear that Kay is being sincere about having a mother’s love for Joann, but only because she has convinced herself of this, I think he still stands by her romantic interest in Joann, at least on paper. I Still think he decided Kay is bisexual) RON/DR. HANLIN/NANCY/MISS SIMPSON - Ron is at the hospital. Dr. Hanlin wants him to leave, but he refuses to leave until he sees Nancy. He has something to lay out on the line, something he needs to tell her. Hanlin caves and lets him have a supervised visit with Nancy. She is turned away from Ron and he angrily demands she turn and face him. She does. He tells her he wants to take her home. They have a chance to get Karen back and be a family. He reaches out his hand, but she doesn’t respond. He darkly tells her if she doesn’t agree to leave, he will walk out that door and she can forget about seeing Karen again. She will be locked away forever like a caged animal. He holds his hand out again, slowly Nancy reaches out and touches Ron. Later, Hanlin has Ron sign Nancy out and tells him they can no longer be responsible for what happens to her. He gives Ron some medication and tells him it is vital she take it or she will only get worse. Ron is flippant and takes Nancy in his arms and walks out as Hanlin and Miss Simpson look on concerned. DAVID/LIZ/JILL/DEREK - David turns up at the Foster home as Liz is cleaning. He asks about Jill, but she is still at work, then he asks for Phillip, but he is having a nap. He wants to see if Jill wants to take him to the zoo. Liz realises how fond of Phillip he is. David is starting to feel like Phillip is a son. He wonders if Jill has thought anymore about his proposal. Liz tells him she has taken his proposal seriously but hasn’t come to a decision yet. David pulls out a ring and hopes it might help her decide. Liz hopes he isn’t trying to push her, but David assures her he isn’t. He admits he thinks about her all the time and is in love with her. At the Golden Comb Derek and Jill clean up and prepare to close shop, Jill watches Derek admiringly. A call comes through, and Derek tells Jill if it is for him, he isn’t here. Jill tells the woman (Sherry) Derek has left and she will leave him a message. She teases him about Sherry wanting to be serviced by Derek. He doesn’t take the bait. Jill is terribly curious about him and his relationships, but knows better than to ask. She probes about his plans for the evening, since he is in such a hurry to get home. He tells her he has no plans and is just tired. She tells him she has dinner plans with her son. Derek thinks that’s sweet. They talk about Derek’s son. Derek isn’t even sure if he is eight or nine. He tells Jill he hasn’t seen him in some time and that he lives with his mother. Derek tells her he will give her a lift home; she asks him to join her and Phillip for dinner, but he politely declines. She asks if he misses his son. He doesn’t so much miss him but is more curious about him. Jill can’t imagine living without Phillip. She tells Derek he might get married again someday and have another child. He tells her he has been down that route and won't make that mistake again. There are too many beautiful ladies, he’d be a fool to tie himself down. Jill is a bit disappointed by this, but then again, she has no designs on Derek.

No worries. As an extra bit of trivia. Apparently Roberta Leighton tried out as Lorie Brooks to replace JLB on maternity leave and instead they decided to cast her as Casey Reed

I wanna say Lezlie Dalton but I could be wrong. Nope I was wrong, it was Victoria Thompson. she played Janice Frame

I will put Whoopi Goldberg here too. I know The View is successful, but that was long established before she came on. None of her sitcom attempts, Bagdad Cafe which lasted 15 episodes or Whoopi which lasted one full season only, nor her own talk show took off.