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This is Terry Lester's first episode and most likely one of Deborah Adair's. If not her first. Someone once said they remember Deborah's first scenes being at the hospital, so pretty close. According to synopsis, Jack drives Jill to the hospital.

Was this the character played by Grant Cramer? Who played Shawn, Lauren's stalker from 1986? I honestly barely remember him. He was some real arrogant guy that was supposed to be a love interest for Ashley, but not even sure it went anywhere.

Oh I so remember that afflicting a number of young women in television in the late 90's/early 00's. I kept thining, why are they all speaking like that.

Yep, Memorial Day 1987. There is also a scene from Feb 1987 when she reigns it in and gives a far better performance than usual for that period.

The bigger problem with Jill/Katherine being mother/daughter was that the show wanted them to get along. So now Kay tries hard to make it work and Jill is a grumpus. Making them related should only have fueled their anger and hatred more and ignited a bigger battle between them. Otherwise what was the point? To me Jack Smith was one of those "That would be so cool" kinda guys, but he had no foresight, so he made story decisions that had idiotic or no follow through. LML and MAB were "This looks good on paper" types, but they had zero idea how to execute any of their stories properly. None of them had any real respect for the show and its characters and were only feeding their (and certain actors) egos. They didn't love Y&R the way Bell did.

For Y&R I would pick 98/99 as well - The Abbotts getting Jabot Back/Nikki and Victor reunited/Dru leaves town/Jill and Kay are sentenced to hell living together ETA - Also if they knew the show was ending in 1999 what I would have liked (but obviously didn't happen) I would have just kept Cole and Ashley together and had them have the baby girl she had wanted with Victor. When I first watched I didn't really like Eileen and J. Eddie Peck, but on rewatch I think they had an interesting chemistry Maybe reunite Nina with her lost son and have her leave town to be near him Phyllis' crimes are discovered and she is sent away to jail and Danny and Chris reunite while Lauren returns to reconcile with Paul Diane keeps her dignity in tact and takes the high road out of GC or maybe Jack and Diane do make it work - not sure if I would want Jack still single and swinging or not

I do have one issue of Soap Bubble from early 1976 (I think May). Lynda Hirsch was a contributer or editor until it folded the same year and she started her own soap column in the newspapers. It is a pretty thin publication and the synopsis are not amazing but are still okay. I will scan mine in the new year to add.

Might be the lighting. This was taken around spring summer 1976 and was used for the Daytime TV Library Series. It seems an impromptu cast photo for the magazine. I have attached a colour version. This seems more an outtake, but I am pretty sure it was the one used on the cover. ETA: Seems this was taken May 25, 26 or 27 1976 when Daytime TV was on set of the show

Thanks for that, this all happened over a year ago. I have graduated now and just had to move on with what I was doing, but appreciate the help.

What I wish (besides some miracle that would allow all these shows to somehow have survived) is that at the very least we could get access to daily episode guides. I have tried to contact P&G and Sony, the library archives that hold scripts to many shows, the networks they air on etc... to see if they have something like a reference guide with synopsis and cast/crew details. It would be a small consolation at least to have some record from the 1950's onwards. Definitely not as good as watching but better than nothing. So far no one has been able to or wants to help me. I even told them I was doing my thesis on soaps for a Bachelor degree and they still didn't give a toss.

P&G never cared about the shows they produced (and still don't) they only cared about selling product/ad revenue. Unfortunately they made the majority of shows on the air. Many of which were broadcast live until the late 70's. Once the shows stopped serving their purpose they dismantled them and threw them away. I think for P&G, soaps were an advertising tool and nothing more. Sony seems to have saved both Days and Y&R from the beginning of each Obviously Colgate-Palmolive saved The Doctors which I was suprised by. Agnes' production company Creative Horizons saved B&W kinescope copies of OLTL and AMC but those were almost all lost in a fire and ABC didn't start saving eps until I think 1976ish and only because Agnes demanded it. Not sure about ABC saving GH. I doubt it as they were struggling to survive until the late 70's and hardly had the money and resources to archive shows prior to their boom years that started around 1976/77 (in terms of prime time anyway). The others I am not sure.

No idea. When Chris and Snapper first married Chris bought new furniture paid for by Stuart. Snapper found out and made her take it back. The return story in 81 was similar (though slightly different) but amounted to the same thing. Seemed an odd choice to basically re-introduce them. Pretty much saying the couple hadn't really moved forward in the last 7 years. Then Stu and Liz have a falling out due to Stu feeling Greg was better suited to Chris than Snapper and of course Sally coming back. Really Bell went on a loop with them. Involving Chris in Jabot and having Jack take an interest in her was the only new thing he gave them, but that came too late in the game. Chris and Snapper did have a sort of separation and it might have been good to have them apart for a bit and exploring new things. Yeah April came on just before Christmas of 1979 played by Patricia Albrecht. She lasted about a month before the role was recast with Janet Wood. However most likely due to David and Lynn being absent a lot, the story was a stop starter. Just as April was being moved into the Williams sphere around spring 1980, April was recast again with Cindy Eilbacher and it seems Bell kinda started all over again, Lynn returned from maternity leave in time to help introduce the Stevens before Chris was MIA and April was kinda on her own with Paul. The big summer 1980 story was the New World Order cult. I think April got a bit lost in the shuffle of that as Paul was in the cult. I guess the NWO cult had plenty of youngish characters. I'd sort of call it a teen summer story. Might have been interesting to have had April get sucked into the cult too. She seemed the type of character to have been brought in quite easily.

From what little I have seen of her, I liked her. Trish had the southern charm going on and a very light energy. Lynn had a bit of a darker edge (not in a bad way) though I felt Bell could have had Lynn's Chris be more willing to tell Snapper to shove it, lol.

The show seems completely about Chris and Snapper in 1973 and they have story through 1974. In 1975 they went through a lull and mostly played supporting, then in 1976 came the Beckers which gave Chris story until Trish left in 1978. Apparently The Beckers were intended to be around for many years until Trish quit. After that Bell gave Chris little stories that went for a few months but hardly amounted to anything, though it makes sense, he always puts a recast on the backburner. Then Lynn got pregnant with twins in 1979 and I believe had gestational diabetes and was unable to work as heavily. Chris and Snapper had story, but it was pretty light and I guess Bell didn't want to get too much into anything until Lynn had her babies. Once Lynn got back from maternity leave David was pretty much gone and she quit when they wouldn't renew her contract and wanted her to basically be a guest star. The return in 1981 wasn't all that exciting, Bell repeated the whole furniture story from 1974 and then he gave them their last big story with Sally coming back to town. So effectively another revisit of a story from 73-74. So maybe Bell lost interest, but I think Lynn being a recast in late 1978 meant Bell was going to rest Chris for a solid six or twelve months as he often does, but then Lynn became pregnant in late 1979 and David took off in 1980. So it is hard to say if he lost interest or just never had much chance with Lynn.

Same, though I have seen very little of either, I think Espy was moody and dark and volatile and the Hoff was stern and not much else. Yeah Bell and Conboy certainly had a show that was in many ways conservative and at the same time full of T&A. I get the feeling they both appreciated what men and women had to offer and often made that part of their decision making (sometimes). I mean Espy was a nice looking guy, but I can see why many moved on when David was cast. No offense to him, David seems like he got Snapper on a surface level and his acting seems good.

I also wonder if some of those things happened via phone or something. I know at some point he had a live feed from LA to Chicago of the show as it taped. So maybe he had discussions via a early form of video phone or something. But yeah he probably meshed a few stories and incidents together.

I was pretty sure it was 1986 when B&B was being put together. Though apparently he was back forth to LA since at least 1973 when Y&R started. He might have spent more time in Los Angeles in 1980 while Y&R transitioned. Not sure to be honest.

I can understand Chris having no money as Snapper had that draconian "i'm the man, I work, no inheritance for you" BS. Though by the time they met April he should have been making bank working at the hospital. I believe he was reinstated by that point and would have finished his intern/residency period. Sometimes I think Bell kept that couple frozen in time. In terms of the hour, I think Bell in general hated soaps going to an hour and felt the 30min soap was perfect. I am in two minds about it. I do love the hour soaps, but the half hour is pretty spot on for a soap.

Yes many changes and upheavals When the show lost Brenda, they barely got six months into a new recast with Bond Gideon before she was dropped and Deborah came on. Adding Jack and John to Jill's story would have worked if Brenda was still around, but having esentially three new people in their own orbit must have been difficult for audiences. On top of that Brett Halsey was apparently a dud on the chemistry front and the Jack/Jill/John triangle fizzled and he was sent packing after six months with the story barely getting any play. Jill definitely lost prominence at this point. Another misfire was the cult story, which was Y&R's big summer story for 1980 and a hopeful bid for a ratings climb, but it actually saw the show sink to 12th place in the overall daytime ratings for August 1980 and 7th amongst soaps. Lorie was moved to Michael and then Victor - The issues was, due to JLB's pregnancy nothing but a few smooches ever happened. Lorie and Michael really amounted to nothing and Lorie eventually turned Victor away due to his being married. After JLB returned from maternity leave Lorie spent her time trying to seduce Lucas as a way to get custody of Brooks. Honestly, Lorie seems scant in the story for the remainder of the year. In 1981 she was battling Leslie for Brooks and then Lance again. It isn't until Vanessa plots against Lorie that her story takes off more. In terms of John McCoook - before he left, he was initially planning to go on hiatus to film a movie. However by the time he departed in Feb, he had given his notice. It does seem Bell was blind sided by his decision to leave the show. I think the reason he returned in May 1980 was more as a favour to help wrap up some things, since Bell had to write him out so quickly. Y&R asked him to return in late 1980 but when he turned the offer down they eventually hired Dennis Cole. Apparently Troy Donahue was also in the running. In terms of the Foster family, Greg was the only one truly active and with story in 1980. Snapper was mostly off and Bell was trying to get Jill going amid cast changes. In terms of the Brooks - things were a bit of a mess. Peggy had story but in spurts. Lorie I explained above and Chris was gone. Much of Leslie's story relied on Lorie, so it was a slow crawl and seemingly a lot of hand wringing while they all waited for JLB to be ready to return in a more active capacity. The Jonas/Leslie/Lucas/Casey quad was not really exciting from what I could tell. Casey gave up Lucas pretty quick and Lorie had to push Jonas to go after Leslie (and he gave her up quickly too). Then you have the issue of - Leslie and Lucas were never really in love. He always loved Lorie and she always loved Lance. So how was this ever really a quad??? Bell tried it though, it didn't work.

Yeah David was recurring, but from what I can tell he would show up once every couple months for a few eps and then vanish again Lynn refused this deal and walked and did not return until Mar 81 with David and they both left again the following year. I think she last appeared around June 1980, but had been absent due to her pregnancy/maternity leave prior to this. So Chris was not really around much that year. Brenda left, John left. I'd say Beau had given his notice early on in 1980, since he was gone by Sep. JLB wanted to leave in 1980 but agreed to stay, I think Bell knew he wasn't going to have her for much longer. JLB was also pregnant in 1980 and being wheeled onto the set and eventually was ordered to go on bed rest and that probably put a hold on her story for that year, then she was off screen for a few months. Wesley Ann Pfenning came in as JLB went on maternity leave early. JLB left around July and returned around late Sep or early Oct. This pushed back the Leslie amnesia story as well since Lorie was sent to New York with Brooks on a book tour. It sounds like Bell is condensing the 80 - 82 period together. Not just talking about 1980 and the exact period when the show went to an hour. If you read the synopsis for that period, it is a bit of a mess. I am obsessed with that period of the show to be honest. Nothing really seems to work and you can feel the struggle. I'd say the cast turn around during that two year period was never matched again, at least not during Bell's time on the show.

Which is a shame as I don't feel Mary was like that at first. She had a different moral code to her son and clashed with him on it. It seems early on it was warranted and she was more pulling him into line for his bad behaviour and the way he treated women. Then she became one note and just annoying and acted as if only she should know who was best for Paul and how he should live his life.

Not sure Chris ever had an actual scene with Kay. Maybe she was in the same space with her, but she always seemed to be in the background of the Foster family drama. Though having not watched I can only go on synopsis, which doesn't always give you everything. It seems the Brooks and Fosters only interacted during Chris and Snapper's wedding and Liz and Bill's re-marriage. When Stu and Jen stopped by to give them a wedding gift. Yeah it seems Bell went to great lengths to keep the Brooks women away from Kay. I would not be surprised if Lorie had no scenes with Kay until 1982 (which are in the vault) I don't even think they interacted in 1979 when Kay was plotting against Jill. Lorie only seems to have shared scenes with Brock. Pam got some story in 76/77 but then left. I am pretty sure Anthony Herrera (Jack) said her departure was the reason he was axed from the show. So it seems Bell had more story for Peggy coming up. I always got the feeling Pam wasn't too happy at Y&R. Though she did return in 1980 and Bell gave her a big storyline again with the New World Order Cult. Plus a love interest in Steve Williams, but again Pam decided to leave. Honestly reading through the 1980/81 period. Many stories seemed to get lost in the shuffle. Everything was in a state of flux and rather messy in a way.

My guess would be Phillip was avoiding Kay and was at Lorie's apartment. At one point he picks up bills he promised to pay for her as he leaves her place.

Leslie didn't, as Janice said when she left that she was trying to convince TPTB to give her scene/story with Jeanne. Gwen Sherman (Jennifer Leak sitting next to Steve Carlson) never did. Nor did Mark Henderson. In fact pretty sure the only ones who did were Snapper, Greg, Jill, Liz, Chris, Phillip and Brock.

That has definitely been around for a while. Don't think it is photoshopped. I have seen it in 70's mags, just much smaller and B&W Also there is a different shot of Jeanne, Brenda and Donnelly from this same shoot. All in same clothes but just the three of them and grouped differently. Here it is from a 70's mag but can't remember which one. Now I look, the B&W one is slightly different. Bill Espy has crossed arms and Brenda is looking more straight on to the camera. Oh the one with Brenda, Jeanne and Donnelly is definitely a composite from the above cast shot. Just realised that, haha