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Thank you Copyright is understandable, I understand that much. And that would detour a lot of people to try to copy, or emulate the style of writing that the respective creator is known for and then try to pass it off as their own. I think when I looked at "As The World Turns" bible I found it was a nice example in the sense the late Irna Phillips wrote it from the heart, and made it a romantic, very personal creation. But then I wondered are all bibles created equal? What takes did her pupils Agnes Nixon and Bill Bell employ to sell their "worlds" without end. I think if there were access to these materials budding writers could examine their own characters and stories effectively. The way Agnes alleged to have done, per Peter Bergman, who received a character bible for Dr. Cliff Warner upon being hired so he knew where things involved him and other characters story-wise). The bible, a marvelous set of instructions, a gift of oxygen so your brain child may have the ability to flourish and grow. I have to wonder what Charles Pratt's bible for "Models Inc" looked like. Don't get me wrong, I loved that show - but I'd have to wonder. And did Charles Pratt create "Sunset Beach" too for Aaron Spelling?

What are they trying to do in preventing the story bibles from being shared? I would think they would want to make them accessible in order to educate those who want to create serials or any other type of work? And I mean the towns of Pine Valley, Llanview, Corinth, etc., have already come and gone in their creation, so there isn't any way to plagiarize the work - people just want a rough idea on how to create their own worlds without end based on these bibles the creators all speak of. Forgive the simplicity of that question, but I think had I had access to an example I would have been like EUREKA!

I thought she was very intriguing, because she had such a love for the soap genre and wanted to tell incredible stories. It was like "just hire her already!" I mean if the passion is there?!

Re: [S.W.S.N.B.N.]... Why do I remember her being in the soap opera news 10 years ago? I show on IMDB.com she was a writer for "Days of our Lives", but I always felt she had a connection to "One Life to Live" too?

I seem to remember, maybe back in the days of WOST or even SoapNet's "Ryan's Hope" board, somebody had access to the contents of the "Ryan's Hope" bible...And I recall this because of the trivia, that Siobhan Ryan was originally supposed to be a nun!

It's interesting Peter Bergman tried to discredit her by calling her crazy in respects to her claims, when he just admitted on the Locher Room last Thursday that he once tried to give Agnes Nixon story direction on where he believed his character, Dr. Cliff Warner, should be going! (Needless to say management interceded and he kept his job, but still!)

God, I dream of this day in my current job...I am so glad that you took a leap of faith and landed on your feet. One more thing...I was really touched that people mentioned Claire Labine, as a collaborator in writing story for people of color on "General Hospital". I remember people watching the show during this time and enjoying it immensely because of the diversity and issues she brought to the forefront. In a way "GH" inspired the networks to make her "Ryan's Hope" to be more outrageous than planned, so it was only poetic justice her "RH" reel the Hospital back in from the days of Lassa Fever and Ice Princesses.

Thank you for this information Mike. I also really enjoyed your posts on the "Race and Racism" in the Soaps" Thread.

I spent a majority of my day reading all but 15 pages of this post, which I will finish tomorrow... In reading all of the things people contributed and commented on so far, I have to say, if only the writer's room of our existing dramas were this diverse and constructive. Granted there were moments of tense exchange, but nobody said the conversations about race would be comfortable, in fact, I hear that to achieve progress they're going to be uncomfortable. This is where I imagine, as part of her research, Agnes Nixon drew the voices for her characters, and though audiences related to one character or another, we understood or became aware of many points of view... One of the posts that stuck out to me, and I apologize, I think it was @victoria foxton, (I've read so many pages) who may have posted to the effect that "All My Children's" drama and differences in characters was inspired by the Vietnam War that rocked our country, and how the show created 3 years of stories from that event alone... So, why can't our shows tell those stories in a way they once did? I mean, long ago are the days "As the World Turns" had to forbid any character to speak of President Kennedy's assassination, when it was said assassination that interrupted CBS' "previously scheduled programming"... (Forbidden, until Rosemary Prinz, as she revealed to Alan Locher last Friday on his show, accidentally went up on her lines as Penny Hughes and alluded to the strife in our country...) How atavistic is the genre, that in spite of the "Classic Episodes": Couldn't Genoa City have had a protest (peaceful or otherwise) at Chancellor Park in response to George Floyd, and the characters responses to it? Couldn't General Hospital's Dr. Monica Quartermaine have had the capability to instruct America on COVID procedures as our nation, as well as our world, went through it's own personal drama? Did Bold and the Beautiful need a boost from scandalous Carol Baskin to pimp their show, making me think twice about the "couture" (or the quality) of its production... And not to be insensitive, but couldn't Salem Place dramatize a mass shooting that might create viewership to tune in to see the reality that continues to divide our country, and respect the rule that in this type of event - nobody returns from the dead. And I already figure (per previous posts, I think one that involved a Twitter thread), executives are too afraid to tell those stories... It seems the networks have failed us? Then what can we do? Respectfully, Erik

Sent one, thanks again...

I just checked the video/chat and yes, it was you Eric... Thank you for answering, and sorry, I didn't catch that it was your name associated the first time I read the post... If you would be willing to share, I'd be very grateful...I was interested in Agnes' bible for "All My Children" and her early story projections. I was also interested in, if you have "a" full script sample, either for radio or "All My Children". Thank you again, for any assistance you give... Erik

I was told by a fellow viewer that if I wanted to see Agnes' work I could find it at the Northwestern College archives. I was curious, does anyone know how to access the online archives for Northwestern to look at Agnes' work? I am on the site, but all I am finding is the ability to request files that I would have to view in person when visiting the library. Is there anything just scanned in? Thanks for any help, Erik

I was watching Alan Locher's "Locher Room" today, and they did a tribute to Agnes Nixon. I was told by a fellow viewer that if I wanted to see Agnes' work I could find it at the Northwestern College archives. I was curious, does anyone know how to access the online archives for Northwestern to look at Agnes' work? I am on the site, but all I am finding is the ability to request files that I would have to view in person when visiting the library. Is there anything just scanned in? Thanks for any help, Erik

With releases of a few mid-late 70's episodes of "One Life to Live" on YouTube... I am intrigued by the character of Cathy Craig Lord (Dorrie Cavanaugh, Jennifer Harmon)... It almost seemed to me the character had so much more longevity - the daughter of the show's patriarch Nat Polen as Dr. Jim Craig, and with familial/romantic ties to the Woleks and the Lords. She was also a reporter for the Banner... I always wondered if her character was written out (possibly if Harmon wanted to leave and the demand of recasting) and replaced her character with that of Edwina Lewis, played by Margaret Klenck... I could see in lieu of Cathy being dumped by Tony, becoming embittered and taking it out on Viki and Karen (like Edwina tended to do), as well as becoming a cohort to Dorian. Speaking of Dorian...the first two Dorians are present in these releases: Nancy Pinkerton and Clair Malis. Very interesting takes on a character Robin Strasser left her mark the most on. Anyone a fan of either actresses' previous work? Don't know if there are any "One Life" legacy fans, but would be curious to hear your take.

Was this 2003, 2004?

Hello you bold and beautiful people, I was curious, I been watching scenes from the early to mid 90s - with Stephanie vs. Sally over Jack, Stephanie vs. Sheila over Eric, Stephanie homeless, Brooke's seduction of the Forrester men, Brook overtaking the Forrester business - it's all so well written and the acting is incredible... When did the creative well run dry for you? Like what jumped the shark in the show and you were done? Was it when Ridge turned out to be Massimo's son? When Pam covered Donna in honey and tried to feed her to a bear? When Stephanie died? When the cast started kissing mannequins? What year do you think was the last good year of this show before it started to decline? Thank you, Erik

Thanks for the response...confused, wasn't Kirby long gone, and Fallon "dead", so Nikki was more of an "in between", along with Lady Ashley, from Fallon back to Fallon... Though I appreciate Joan Collins and the work she did on DYNASTY, I don't know why she would comment on working with Berger...she barely had any scenes with him except for group scenes, none of which even showed them together. The only ones who seemed to share time with Berger the most was Fallon, Jeff, Blake, Krystal and Claudia. Only actors experiences there was Pamela Sue Martin (Fallon) was shocked when Berger thought they did their bed scenes naked, and Pamela Bellwood (Claudia) was esteemed by Berger as one of the nicer cast members.

Question, watching season 5, and intrigued with the Nikki Simpson character. Was she originally slated to be Peter DeVilbis' wife, or were producers hoping Susan Scannell would catch on so she could be a Fallon replacement as it looked like Pamela Sue Martin was not returning. Has Susan Scannell ever spoken about her time on DYNASTY? I'd be curious as to her experience? Thank you! Erik

Aw, thank you OZ, dc11786 has been helping me, when I don't go AWOL, I hope we can collaborate and maybe create something - the objective would be to send a script or two to Chris Marcantel, maybe to be read by some cast members/fans? You never know...

I was informed by some that the document was not loading, let me post here for all to see, remember, this is bare, bare bones...

Thank you one and all, thank you dc11786 for the in depth info... The reason I was asking was because I was so inspired by the videos/chats Chris Marcantel (original Curtis) created, that I wanted to create a LOVING reboot. Let me share some of the very, very barebones idea I have for a premiere cast...Anyways, was just wondering what you all thought: LOVING.docx

LOVING Children questions... 1) Lorna Forbes ultimately married her lawyer Zach Conway...did they have a child offscreen? 2) Did Steffi Brewster have a baby with Cooper Alden? I know Cooper had one with Ally Rescott named Tyler but I thought Steffi was showing signs of pregnancy once her character moved over to "The City". 3) Ann is not Jack Forbes' biological mother, just his adoptive mother? 4) Was Rick the bio-dad of Heather, or did it turn out to be Jack in the end? Thanks! Erik

I loved watching the first two episodes (and partially a third episode) of LOVING posted, as have most of you... I came into watching LOVING in late '85, early '86 after Marland had left, and most of the original cast had gone to make way for creative development that essentially would make LOVING a "lite" version of sister soap ALL MY CHILDREN. In the early 90's, there was an annual publication called "The History of the Soaps". I mainly purchased it because I was a big fan of ONE LIFE and ALL MY CHILDREN, and I wanted to know their respective histories. However, I was always curious as to how other shows began their epics too. LOVING was one of, if not the most intriguing to me with initial stories in comparison to ones I initially tuned into to pale by comparison. If you're a fan of LOVING you have followed the "Ladies of Loving", "Gentleman" and "Fans" specials put out by Chris Marcantel (original and only Curtis Alden)? Even he has opinionated himself that the show never should have veered away from it's original intent - to be a socially conscious "modern day soap". You all have made wonderful observations - "Rita Mae" being "Opal-esque", the family dynamic of the Donovans; the connection between Doug and Ann (I loved Shannon Eubanks "Ann", she reminded me of Erika Slezak's "Viki"). That they had yet to cast Patrick Donovan - and even when the Donovan patriarch was cast, it's not like he had anything memorable to do - better to have made Rose Donovan a widow and give seasoned veteran Teri Keane more story. Of all the incest, progressive priests, liberal media, AIDS, and Vietname Veteran PTSD tackled...I am surprised the show didn't premiere with an even more diverse cast - maybe the Slaters could have been African-American? Did anyone ever here the rumor Shana Sloane was intended to be black? Also, I wonder what longevity LOVING would have had if it hadn't been a network show but a cable show? So many "what ifs", it's fun to speculate...

Okay, so I wasn't crazy for thinking Catherine O'Hara's "Violet McKay" reminded me of Another's World's Beveree McKinsey's "Iris"? Check it out...

Here are the other three trailers...we had to stop short of episode 5 because of Covid-19... Episode 2... Episode 3... And Episode 4...