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Reading this write up of OC...even more excited...it'll be like season 5 when the housing crisis hit Orange County hard. https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/rhoc-cast-season-15-spoilers-life-updates?cid=soc_fb_Dish&fbclid=IwAR0bSa0JhYGJTjDsGu2BWib7SEcLasOK_lCmwnIPo_97PZy3WfR2VlmBHKk

RHOC filmed pre covid, harsh shutdown, and semi reopened..with Shannon getting covid shown. This will be a good season after all

I had no idea Brock came back in 1985..it does seem like he was tested with Ashley, Gina and Jill..but nothing came of that. He did come back again during the Marge doppelganger story..his return provided the push to resolving it. He was tested with Nina some in 1989..but than he was gone again. Jill and Nikki did seem not to interact much till 1999...but both were aware of one another before that. Jack and Nikkik had one scene in 1992 where they were going to fix up John with one of Nikki's friends...but jack finds out about john and Jill..and he tells Nikki. She rolls her eyes and said 'not that again ' lol.

I am intrigued to see how covid will change how the cast trips go. Since the USA is banned from most countries...makes sense it's USA based trips. And with California and Texas on states Quarantine lists..the choices where to travel are slimmer. Still..I wonder if there will be less drinking or sightseeing? I'm sure being stuck with one another will drive them all crazy...hence organic fights

I'm hoping for more 1981...that seemed an interesting year with the Casey/Nikki stalker, Vanessa venturing more into the dark side, and seeing Jill living a middle class life (more of her being roomies with Eve and dating Andy). I liked seeing Diane and Andy together in the 1984 clikps..classic story of a woman being drawn to the bad boy and not realizing until too late that she had the real thing. The show revisited this in the 2000s with them..but it wasn't the same cause of Diane being recast

I remember at a Bauer Barbeque (1991 maybe) Michelle wondered over to the Spauldings...and when Mo was looking for her..Blake said she saw her next door at the Spauldings.

So Nikki spent all of 1980 in the Foster orbit..did she and Jill ever cross paths as sister in laws? I asked my mom..and all she could recall was Liz trying to teach Nikki how to clean as Nikki played dumb..and Chris playing peace keeper with Greg and Nikki...but nothing about Jill

I think with Bethenny, Dorinda and Tinsley gone...the tone of the show will be different. I think adding one or two newbies will freshen up the show..but retain the essence of the original vibe. Don't forget newbies always interact in interesting ways with Ramona (i.e. Carole trying logic, Aviva being crazy, and Heather grinning as she follows Ramona around)...so just seeing how anyone new comes in reacting to the train wreck that is Ramona is always entertaining

Bye toxic trash...vile, mean and unlikable.

Now Brenda Epperson had chemistry with a lot of people...she had the sarcastic vibe of Eileen..but didn't have the dismissive vibe that Eileen had. She had good rapport with both Jack's, Traci, John....and her end game pairing was Brad. Only character that she didn't click with was Blade...and I think it wasn't her that was the problem. Michael Tylo didn't fit on Y & R (he..like Shari Statuck were hired cause of their spouses...though Shari fit in the show...just not as Ashley)

Seeing Ashley in clips pre Victor, I often don't get why Bill bell insisted on ruining and degrading Ashley's character with the Victor pairing? Nikki being drawn to Victor made sense based on the 2.5 years of story pre dating her meeting Victor....but I just could never buy Ashley being drawn to him.

She's too good for rhony. She has an actual personality and seems like she would be interesting on her own without needing to start drama.

The Carl/Mary/ruth story was well written and utterly realistic. You can tell Alden was in charge because St Christine was called to task for not telling Paul what she was doing...even with Nina telling her to be honest. It was oh so satisfying to have Christine have to admit she was wrong..to Nina (a wonderful scene) and to Paul. It's a shame that was the last story for Mary where she was given material that made her more than an interfering mother or mother in law.

Had Terry Lester stayed on...do you guys think the Nikki/Jack wedding in 1990 would have happened?

And no excuses because OC filmed before and during Quarantine.

I'm hoping for organic drama..no more petty issues dragged out.

Seeing how Marcy Walker was in real life...I'm still boggled why the GL writers struggled to come up with a character for her. She was funny, self deprecating, and perceptive....easy traits to have infused into Tangie. Liza was a snooty bad girl while Eden was the traditional heroine...so I feel Tangie could have been a sarcastic anti heroine. Alas, it wasn't to be.

The july 4 1984 episode when Danny tells Patty he married Traci was so sad...and knowing what we know now about Patty's fate...the seeds were planted back as far as 1982. The desperation is evident..and we haven't seen episodes that led to Patty leaving (she accidentally caused Traci's miscarriage and she couldn't bear to see Danny's disappointment so she left town..so her mental state was shaky it seems).

In the vault is a may 1984 episode where Patty had to tell Danny that Jack canceled the check that Lauren bragged about. I wonder if what you wrote explains that episode more clearly

No, the new girl was...Gina was pro mask

I thought adding Tamra back was because the start of filming was going slowly..and than Covid hit..and I'm wondering if some good material was filmed in Quarantine. I know Shannon said she filmed some when she got Covd..an I read the new h Girl got into it with Gina over wearing masks.

Ashley had two romances pre Victor her 1st 3 years..Brian Forbes and Eric Garrison (along with Marc M in 1984). I don't think the close family vibe was at all the east coast soaps. AMC, EON, GL, and AW seemed to have that...even early Loving...but OLTL in the 80s didn't it seems. And ATWT seemed more formal.

They thawed in 84/85 for awhile once Lau4en married Paul. She even helped Traci come to terms with the fact that Danny didnt love her...and took Tracij to the hospital when she miscarried the 2nd time. So while she bullied Traci in 83...by the late 80s..the two were cordial..until the mid 90s when Traci tried keeping Colleen away from Brad. Traci and Lauren both changed for the better.

Watching the 1989 episodes on that playlist. I had no idea Leanna Love and Nina knew one another... and it was nice to see Lauren and Traci during a cold war time..where they were cordial yet disliked one another. Lauren and Jack would have been an interesting pairing moreso than Scott/Lauren..given that Traci hated Lau4en..plus Paul would have issues. I wonder if Terry Lester quiting deep sixes those plans?

I loved some of the interactions in the early 1989 episodes. Chase/lauren, Jack/Britney, plus Jack/Lauren..and the Abbott breakfasts were fun. Perhaps Ron C should look at these episodes to see how to write keeping someone in a cage. Lisa was fascinating and the hair was a character of its own. I didn't know Leanna met Cassandra...and I liked Jill's chemistry with TL's Jack..plus Michael Crawford seemed a nice diversion for Jill. Can't wait to get tested to the Jabot takeover story.