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Derek and Shanice! love it. No Kenny at Martin's isn't a fake out. Thank God. Randy gonna be in troouuubbblllleeeee.

I was thinking it was later in the episode, but it happens at about the 1:55 mark that the pilot "Skip" called Vicky "Miss Heche".

Yes, it was Amy Carlson. Anna Holbrook has said in interviews as well that the three are close. I wonder if Julia Roberts began watching AW when her brother, Eric, was on and got hooked. This would have been many, many years later when Frankie was killed off.

Agreed. I was hoping for a bit more backstage stuff, but I suppose it's been decades and time to move on. I did think it was sweet that "Charlotte (Charlie)" was named for her real life grandmother who was a big AW fan. It was nice they did that. I remember thinking that AW was finally turning a corner for the better right before it ended. Fairly recent returns of Sandi Ferguson, Matt Crane after fumbles in casting for Rachel's kids. Ellen Wheeler returned as Marley and then Alice returned as the lookalike for "Frankie". I was excited for the Anne/Cass/Lila triangle, the complexity of Marley/Jake/Vicky, and enjoyed the Josie/Cameron/Amanda story. I'm sure a little more time wouldn't have helped the show at this point, but it's great to imagine what might have been for that summer/fall.

Regarding the 4th wall on Anne Heche's last day, I'm pretty sure the pilot when addressing her did so as Miss Heche on camera. She and Ryan are seemingly caught off- guard and start laughing as the finish the scene.

I'm thinking, maybe....just maybe...that it has some to do with P+ rankings for the soaps not reaching the top. It splits viewers with cbs.com. Who knows? I'm just making excuses. lol

When I watch online, I do it through the cbs.com site. Would that be included with Paramount+? I'm not sure how it works, but are cbs.com and paramount+ separate? Would that lower P+'s numbers/ranking for the show? (Sorry for my ignorance)

I feel the same! I was thinking "why couldn't Jimbre have been Martin?" Brandon could have been the more stiff, by the book cop. Didn't like Kat setting up Eva at the office with the accreditations, but then again, I wasn't really liking Eva's attitude in this ep either. She was so smug taunting Kat. They're both wrong...but it's a great rivalry. lol It still never hit me until this episode that Anita AND Vernon AND Ted know about Martin's "secret" behind Nicole's back. She's gonna blow! I'm here for it. Daphne is great in this role. I am on the "Ashley is annoying" train, for sure. the writing for the character doesn't help Jen much. She comes off as whiny, having OCD, and just a complete mess that doesn't know what she wants. I don't understand the character and Jen may not either. I am also in agreement with it being a mistake to air a week of repeats. Thurs/Fri yes, but the whole week? I wish soaps were given the respect they deserve, but I suppose with the current state of the ratings it won't happen. I long for the days that networks didn't dare interrupt an ep for fear of the backlash from viewers. Now, they interrupt for any excuse possible. Just sad.

How long after Hayley told Bill she was pregnant did they start to get busy on the couch and his stroke happened? Wasn't it quite soon after? I think she was tired of Bill continuously wanting to be in Dani's business and decided to get pregnant to refocus back on her. She probably thought she could get pregnant fairly quickly so it wouldn't have been a lie but then his stroke happened. Now the timeline isn't adding up and she's under pressure... I was disappointed the group in Bill's office was skipped over too. Maybe the writers didn't want to foreshadow what will happen to "Kenny" when he shows up for the money? Hopefully it's something big and unexpected.

I feel like the writers are having Kat tamper with evidence, etc., to give them an out for Leslie not going down for her crimes. I do think she should pay, but I don't want her off the show. I hope they let up on her "evilness" though and just make her messy with Ted and Eva instead of an all out villain. As you all know, once she goes too far she'll be backed into a corner. Bill won't be happy when he finds out Tomas is backing away from Kat. He wants intel! I felt sorry for Andre today. First Nicole tearing him down only to run to the hospital and find Dani still all up in Bill's business. I think the show has done well with making it known his hookups with Dani are more to him than just sex. Hayley fighting back against Dani. I'm hear for it. This could be another great rivalry like Kat/Eva.

ooooo no ultrasound. It's on!

Great Ted/Nicole scenes. Calling her "Princess". Ouch.

Give him hell, Nicole. lol Dani is obnoxious again today. I hate this side of her. C'mon Tomas be smarter than this! Peekaboo, Martin.

The heat messed with my head today. I didn't even think to jump over here while watching live. lol. Eva/Kat for me is still the show's breakout rivalry. Tomas is a dud with Kat, but for some reason he improves greatly when Eva is around. He's gotten much better since the first days. He still needs work though if that triangle is going to be a lead story. I loved Dani/Bill today. The vulnerability given to Dani was great to see. I hope they pull in more of the softer side of Dani. She can't be full-out all the time. The group that protected Martin is such a weird group of characters to put together and yet I'm all for it! I can't wait to find out what part each played. Also, to know that Ted knew all along won't go over with Nicole when it all comes out! Nor, Dani when she finds out Bill's part, I'm assuming. This right after they have "a moment". I don't want Jacob or Smitty to get hurt. I like them being buddies being on the right side of things. Of course, it prob won't last long. I don't think Hayley is faking pains. I just hope she doesn't lose the baby this quickly...even though I don't want Hayley saddled with a little one yet. It's just too early to drop this story.

AW was pulled for Passions which NBC owned. I don't think NBC was prepared for the backlash and boycott it created causing Days and Sunset Beach's ratings to fall by good measure after. SB gone 6 months later and Passions never made any ratings significance. I have a feeling P&G is only "testing" this method again to advertise for Tide and Febreze (which are nauseatingly present in eps). If it fails to improve sales of these products specifically, I think P&G will be out sooner than later.

I'm glad there is a break from Leslie. She can be a bit much at times. lol. I do miss Eva though. She's become my favorite. AW was my show so I'm loving the Rachel/Steve/Alice comparisons, but that was before my time watching the show. I like Smitty and Jacob mixing it up. The show seems to do well with this instead of keeping the cast isolated in their own stories only. I don't know what to think of Vanessa. I've gone from loving her to disliking her to liking her again. I guess that's good on the writers to give her so many layers. Ted needs to do more to woo Nicole back. Flowers? Cliche.

Already loving today. Let's go!

How does a reporter get private bank records? I'm confused. Too convenient for the story he's working on. Does he have a "crooked" bank friend supplying him info? lol

Am I the only one getting annoyed with both Chelsea and Kat lately? Their spoiled, entitled attitudes are draining. Loving the Jacob/Naomi scenes and their playfulness lately. Team Smitty all the way. I hope he blows the whole secret/police department out of the water. I just hope nothing happens to him before he can. He needs to be one of the show's antagonists against the Duprees. June's nails. lol. Can't say I would have noticed, but I bet it's done on purpose (as MVJ would say. lol). Interesting character trait if she's homeless yet still wants to stay "fashionable". What in her past makes her feel that way? Was she part of the "Articulettes" in the spotlight? (playing on theories). Tomas and Kat are boring. Where's Eva? They need to amp up this triangle as I think it could be a focal point for the show.

Yeah, I understand the show has been preempted a lot lately. Just seems typical trying to watch this show. lol. If there is a murder mystery, I have no faith in Griffith to make it enjoyable.

The only thing about this Luna story I could enjoy is that she goes after Hayes and Liam jumps in to defend him. In the process, Liam takes out Luna just as she fires her gun and strikes Liam. They both die. In a week both characters are completely forgotten and Brad has moved on to his next "Whacko of the Week".

so the last couple of weeks they've hyped up this party on "Friday, the 13th" and today...Friday, the 13th, they haven't even left town yet? This show...

I'm assuming Martin ended up somewhere in "the bad part of town" driving his expensive car and was jumped. Haven't the flashbacks hinted at someone saying things about will his money/expensive car help him now? Or something. I have a feeling he was getting beaten to a pulp and fought back killing one of his attackers. Then Vernon helped cover up the death. Now Martin as a politician is against hate and violence so it would ruin his career if it turned out he killed someone in a violent way. Let alone his rich family cover it up. Just theories. I was not expecting Dani/Andre to be outed that way. It was funny, but I was hoping for a much bigger "reveal" in front of lots of people.

I agree the show skips over a few scenes that should have been done, but I'll take this pacing over Y&R and B&B any day with their three episode long conversations. Darn it! Couldn't Iran have waited another 30 minutes!!??? #Newsbreak

Before the engagement party, (old) Ted and Nicole offered to put Eva through school when Laura came back. Once she was done Ted mentioned she might have a spot at his practice, I think. Something like that. Tomas has definitely improved his acting since the show's inception. Agreed with all the comments about Carleton being a regular. He was great on NuDynasty. He'd be a great mix with Nicole. Martin's assistant, Zak, was great, too!. At first I thought he might be there to make Smitty jealous. Still could be. hint hint. Hayley is ridiculous at times. lol.