All My Shadows

I enjoyed the ball itself and all of the interactions. Like you said, they were all having a great time, and the banter here and there added dimension to the characters' relationships. They wrote and produced this as a ball where David plans to kill people. Today, or in the last 20 years, it would have been David planning to kill people at a ball. It would have been a day or two, and the fun conversations with everyone else would have been cut out or replaced with filler filler filler scenes of David staring at people through crosshairs.

My neck of the woods just really misses when one CBS affiliate would air it in the morning (half-hour before most of you) and the other would air it in the afternoon at 4pm. KSJ, yes, absolutely delicious, but the wig is ruining it for me this time. Dru was so mean in her early years, damn. Poor Liv. The David stuff is low-key cheesy. Michael Corbett's line delivery is too action movie for me. It's like something out of DAYS. Scott and Sheila begging Paul and Lauren to play with them is hilarious.

I forget that most of you get the show on the half-hour. Was wondering why no one else was posting lol Bruh, Esther is cutting up on this stage. Katherine loves her friend but is sitting there like "Look at this bitch..."

"Holly Hollywood and the Wolf" clearly being Marilyn Monroe and the Beast from the Beauty of the Beast is cracking me up. So is Esther trying to be a sexy French maid and then just scurrying to follow Katherine's coattails. The costumes are so cute and fun. This is great. Katherine, Rex, and that damn necklace I'm suddenly back in my grandma's kitchen. Jeanne Cooper, man. What a great woman who could just do it all.

The Adam stuff was too much (though I did love Matthew Cavanaugh), but I was totally here for Casey Hughes being a sht. Some of the biggest assholes come from a good home, especially one like the Hughes home, where the illusion was that was they were always on the "right" side of the an issue. The problem is, of course, as always, ATWT had some great, domestic storylines just within reach and refused to jump up and grab them, especially with the teens. The Maddie/Noah/Luke triangle that could have been revolutionary was steamrolled because we needed Luke and Noah to be together Right Away God Dammit. Jade's interloping with Gwen and Will should have been played much better, and Casey as the [!@#$%^&*] Hughes who had a past with Gwen could have finally wiped the slate clean and worked with them to get Jade in check. The problem is that ATWT stories last for all of a month, maybe a month and a half, back then, unless it was some ridiculous, long, drawn-out, depressing Paul/Emily bullshit.

That does look good! It's like a mix between SBTB and Welcome Back Kotter. I'm in.

I like this group. If it's going to be a regular for the time being, it's a good idea to reach out to different cast members from different eras to get different perspectives.

I never really bought this as anything more than just a caption for the picture. In the context of the photograph and the scene from the 2012-2014 series, the Ewings were "fighting back." Dallas without JR could work, IMO. In real life, JR Ewing would die, and the family would continue to succeed or fail.

Yes, and I just found it, and the poster claimed that all of their gossip came from another poster at another message board who supposedly got it from Elena Goode. I'm calling 100% bullsh!t on that.

Yes, thank you. The thought that anyone was fired because of an affair is foolish. It's not like TC's husband was also part of the ATWT company. I love Colleen, but it's really hard for me to look at her the same after the two DUIs.

I think this is the second time CZ has gone on record to criticize the Barbara/Gunnar pairing, and it's funny, because I remember clear as day when they made a ton of videos for the show's 50th anniversary, she specifically said that her favorite storyline was "early Barbara, James, and Gunnar." This thread is the first I heard a lot about CZ not being the most pleasant person behind the scenes.

And so when they actually DID get back together, no one was annoyed or bored or blah about it. They’d been waiting to scratch that itch for a decade, so the audience was ready to see this develop. That is literally what soap opera can do that no other form of entertainment can do. Why do these people running these shows not see this and capitalize on it?

I can't watch right now, but did Austin mention his (our) birthday yesterday?

I thought it was terrible. I was no Vienna fan in any way (she did grow on me with time), but I hated how they turned her into a villain to support Henry getting with Barbara just so that they could do Ellen DeGeneres-style dance numbers each week. It was terrible. I get why CZ loved it on a personal level considering what she'd been going through at the time, but I wish they'd given her something else.

It is truly a testament of how good this show once was that they can choose two episodes that originally aired nearly a decade apart, and there is still continuity in the form of the Eve storyline. Yes! So very sexy (I see that booty, KSJ).

I'm mad because there was no iconic Rex/Katherine shot in the opening, but I'll live. THIS is the Y&R everyone in my family was obsessed with and us kids grew up with. It just looks and sounds so perfect, and every character shown so far is important to the very fiber of the show's being. After only ten minutes, it's heartbreaking to think of how far this show has fallen. Look at how beautiful and rich these location scenes with Dru and Neil are. No attempt to get fancy with film. Just straight videotape, and it's gorgeous. They knew it was a soap, and they were proud of it. Dru and Neil - pure romance that isn't overblown and contrived. A laid-back couple basking in the glow of new wedded bliss. And the perfectly understated Y&R music. Did I hear the old "Genoa City Theme" in that Brad/Ashley scene? Classic Victor and Nicki angst. This episode has it all even with just a handful-and-a-half of characters. That LUSH music coming to crescendo and then fading out as we hold on Nicki's tear-stained face for a silent beat - then fade to black. It's art, damn it.

Same. Eileen kept a fairly updated blog on her official website years ago when ATWT was still on the air, and her personality is as bubbly and fun as you'd expect. Her with no filter and no fear would be exciting. Throw Marie Masters in there as well.

I'm with you on this 100%. I recall at the time there were people ready to not only condemn KZ but also Jake as homophobes because he vacated the role. The reason they gave was extremely legitimate - he was 15 and wanted to focus on finishing school and doing music, and, surprise, that's exactly what he did. Kim's a very smart woman. I would imagine she encouraged him to do ATWT as a summer job that would be a crash course into acting so that when he was ready to do it full-time, he wasn't entirely green.

The funny thing is, when they aired the Victor/Nicki wedding for NYE, I remember coming home from a vacation and they still had it available "on demand," but this time, it's not (or maybe it was - for whatever reason, only the two most recent episodes are available, usually it's the last five airings). They don't even have tomorrow's airing listed.

This will be another good one! I might fall out when Rex puts the necklace on Katherine in the opening.

Kim Zimmer is a queen. Dames like her are always polarizing. Maureen Garrett referring to the show's decline in quality as when "it frumbled down" is my favorite thing.

Brooke is notttttt letting Erica camp out at the mansion lol

Wait - they FINALLY did a Betty Wright episode? That's the one I've always wanted, but I remember reading a few years back that Betty wasn't interested because she didn't want to be seen as a "has-been" Oh, okay, I see it premiered last night. I'm about to boot that sht up and watch it right NOW. Lord, I'm in my feelings off the strength of the teaser alone. Damn. I love this woman so much. Why is Trick Daddy slurring his ass through this? Okay, let me stop live posting this lol --- I finished, and what a wonderful episode. Not a lot of drama because Betty managed to avoid drug/alcohol abuse and also had/has a great team of people around her, mostly family. Her main problem seemed to be running to the altar with guys who looked and seemed good on the outside but were really not for her in the end. I teared up at the end with her daughters singing back-up and her just sitting in the backyard and enjoying her life. She's always been one of the most down-to-earth and realest singing stars, and one of the things mentioned (but I don't think they really explored it) was that she made a ton of choices to stay true to herself, maybe those choices kept her from blowing up in a bigger way, but she has definitely gotten her flowers while living, and she's still young - only 66. She still has a youthful mindset, and that's helped her continue to find success decade after decade. Great episode and story.

Back then, they relied more on second-hand programming. Little House on the Prairie was a staple there for years - I remember every time they debuted a new schedule without it, they'd end up bringing it back a week or two later because it was a hit (and still is, it's never been off the air since it premiered in 1974), which connects to the topic since Maura brought it up as an example of the type of show that really doesn't exist anymore. I'm not sure I'd put ATWT in the same "family-friendly" category as LHOTP, but a network that was successful with Golden Girls before it became trendy to like Golden Girls could have had success with quarterly GL/ATWT movies. They still could, though maybe the ship has sailed. They'd have to find a way to sell it to the built-in audience while also making is accessible to people who never watched the original series. It could totally work. You woudn't have an entire soap-sized cast involved in each movie. With ATWT, you could focus half of your movies on the Snyders and half on the Hughes/Stewart group and alternate between the two, maybe present smaller stories so that you could have them all included in a Christmas special, etc. In 2017, Hallmark made 33 original movies just at Christmastime. They absolutely 100% have the resources to make this happen. It just takes interest on their part and willingness on P&G's part.

Yes! I forgot all about that. It was like 2003 or 2004 when that first came out, and no one believed it for yeeeeeeeeeeears, and then here comes Retro. In a way, I'm glad because Hallmark would've never given the show the treatment it's gotten from Retro. It might've been different with GL and ATWT, but The Doctors would've last maybe two months before getting pulled.