Chris B

With ABC you’re correct. It has to start with a splash or they will give up on it. If it debuts to decent ratings and good delayed viewing then we could get a few seasons out of it. But gone are the days they’ll wait for an audience to grow.

Debbi is on the Power spin off too. Honestly if they’re smart they’ll lean heavily into black representation for the show. Debbi is known by viewers of all ages and she can pull in black viewers. If they used Debbi Morgan, Susan Lucci and Eva Larue as faces for the show I do think that could go a long way to making the show successful. You cover a lot of bases just with those three heading the different families. The casting for the new actors will be important too. I feel like other than the writing, what hurt the new Dallas was that they had a bunch of unknowns who weren’t the strongest actors. Because of that the only pull was the original actors. This needs to be a modern reboot with a compelling cast overall.

And people wonder why the soaps are never called out for how they treat their black actors.

Welp. I guess Erika said she’s not going down with the ship lol. My first thought is that those messages look old and while it can help people to think the divorce is real, I’m not sure how it helps her liability with everything else.

Im not sure how I feel about this. It looks okay, but none of the women are popping from the trailer.

I just don’t see it being dark like that. That’s not how ABC does soaps. I’d be much more worried if this was on CBS, CW or especially NBC which can’t do a soap to save their lives, unless u count This Is Us. I wonder when we will start learning casting. Once they announce actors they usually give a character description which will add to the excitement. I fully expect them to announce Susan Lucci first which should give them lots of buzz at least.

More than Riverdale, I see the show having more in common with a Desperate Housewives or This Is Us. I think the biggest difference other than the primetime format will be that it has a central mystery which seems to be the thing to do with any primetime soap these days. I don’t think the darkness of Riverdale would fit the ABC brand. Also I like that both writers are actual fans of the show. Im cautiously optimistic.

I tweeted the HW/EP and this is promising. So at least now we know the Hubbard’s will also be involved. Not too surprising considering Debbi Morgan is still so successful. The success of AMC alums I feel is going to make this an easier sell than had they tried this with some other soaps.

Desperate Housewives, Greys Anatomy, Million Little Things. ABC primetime is full of soaps. Also a daytime soap is going to be hard to sell because of the costs. Would you rather nothing? Sure it could flop as many primetime shows do, but it could work. The alternative of letting these properties die is worse IMO.

The Deadline article had more details and confirmed it’s a sequel that will include new next generation characters as well as legacy characters. Because they mention the Santos and Kane families, obviously Susan Lucci and Eva Larue (who is besties with Ripa) will appear and Deadline also said Mark and Kelly will likely make guest appearances. I think this is a great idea and a smart way to use those series. A primetime reboot is obviously cheaper than a daytime one and has a better chance at success. I hope this works out for them. I find it promising you have Agnes Nixon’s son involved as well as former cast members who love the show and genre. I also like that the new writers know the show and I like their British soap experience since those soaps tend to be more progressive with storytelling compared to modern daytime soaps. I hope this is a success for ABC and causes networks to look at their soap properties differently. It’s crazy that every network has a streaming service where the soaps perform well, but they have no spin offs for the soaps. Im curious to see how casting ends up being for this. For example, for Kendall I could see them approaching Sarah Michelle Gellar since she’s a bigger name than Alicia Menshew. I’m also curious if they would try to recast any of the adult roles we know. Bianca and JR as examples. I could see that going either way.

This is really exciting news! I remember when EW did the reunion for AMC the cast mentioned being interested only if it was a primetime series. I love that Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos are involved considering their love of the show and genre. I also like that the writers have strong soap experience via Eastenders. I’m very curious how this cast will shape up. I feel like Eva Larue is a shoo in considering her friendship with Ripa and them specifically mentioning the Santos family. Susan Lucci will obviously be front and center, potentially I could see them at least trying to get Sarah Michelle Gellar as well. Considering it is for primetime, I wonder if they would recast any established roles (Bianca for example) instead of going with the Daytime actor known for the role. For the record I’m not suggesting Eden should be recast, I was just using her as an example.

This expose sums it up very well and shows how widespread this has been. I had no idea that Erika Jayne was going to end until she was cast on RHOBH, which likely caused the costs to skyrocket even more. Crazy to think he was so legitimately rich and STILL felt the need to steal from people.

For all that has been said about Marlo, her finances seem to be legit. I don’t recall any tax liens or anything. The billionaire she dated paid for her home and cars and since then she’s had a steady stream of income from RHOA and outside projects. Keep in mind that despite not having a peach, she’s one of the better paid HWs. She’s a peach without the peach. Now back to Tom and Erik...it’s getting worse! They’re filing to force them into bankruptcy and she’s online trying to sell her old clothes lmao. She had always been so mean that it’s hard to feel bad for her. This is crazy.

He came off so controlling and manipulative. Simply saying what city he was in wouldn’t be enough to satisfy me. He must be the breadwinner for her to put up with that. It felt extreme to me. Did we mention this RHOBH update yet? I’m sorry but this is escalating fast and not in their favor. They still have at least 2-3 months left of filming so we should see this covered.

RHOP Welp...Karen and Monique DEMOLISHED Gizelle. It’s almost as if Gizelle and her minions thought Monique would just come quietly to the reunion, let them ice her out/scream at her and she’d just quietly leave the show. How was Gizelle not prepared for this?! She looked STUNNED! And you KNOW she wanted to lie about that being Jamal’s number lol. It was the best use of receipts I’ve seen and this was only part one. I have a feeling it’s going to be very hard waiting for the extended third part. I also just echo the comments about Wendy. I want to like her, but the connection with Gizelle makes it hard. You can’t claim to be all about girl power, but be friends with the biggest hater. Like you all, I’m very curious what the cast will look like next season. Honestly I’d be happy if only Candiace didn’t return, but after this I wonder if Gizelle will want to go back. RHOA Im going to make my Housewices Resolution not to judge newbies before they debut. I assumed Gina and Emily would be great on OC based on a gorgeous cast photo. I was wrong. I assumed Sutton on BH would be boring based on pictures and she was amazing. Now with one episode I feel Drew is the best newbie since Kenya for this show. I thought she’d be boring and quiet, but she came in very interesting and I see why she always had a peach! The relationship with her husband is so interesting! Missing for 3 days and won’t tell you where he is? Either he cheating or doing something illegal. Ima say cheating. La Toya was fine, but she does seem a little low rent for the group. I’m not sold on her. Overall though, the new group has chemistry. They’re definitely making the most of Covid. We got a good group scene and also interesting solo stuff for Drew and Kandi. That’s one thing RHOA does better than anybody. They always deliver.

It’ll be interesting to see how they justify the loans to Erika because she’s a drag queen! She is not a musician. I’m a drag queen as well and I remember one time they were thinking of booking her to perform with us and she wasn’t much more than a popular drag race girl. Her expenses HAVE to exceed the money coming in. From the glam squads, music which is all out of pocket, custom made costumes and shoes, expensive travel (private jets/luxury tour buses/insane hotels). She isn’t a Kandi or Tamar who has a record deal, this is all out of pocket and you can’t make that money back on a tour of gay clubs. If Tom needed to use her as a front I don’t know why he didn’t throw in a more traditional business like a restaurant or something.

Okay now Wells Fargo is suing Tom. I’m sorry, but between this and the lawsuits glossed over last season, they can’t ignore this. It’ll be interesting to see how they handle all this. What was a simple divorce is now a huge mess lol. She may earn her Diamond this year!

I’ve often thought of a Peyton Place reboot, but I can’t exactly place it. Like y’all have said, I would HATE it on CW, which is ironic because I would take Dark Shadows on CW, but this would be Peyton Place in name only. I think the best place for it would likely be ABC again or a streaming service. I also think a soap format would work for it again. Even if they just do two weekly half-hour episodes like the original did initially. Thinking back to the AMC/OLTL reboots, I think a smart way to do a new soap would be half hour episodes and max it out at 2-3 episodes per week and do 40 episode seasons. It would likely be more manageable budget wise than keeping it open ended. Plus, if it’s successful you can always add onto it. A modern PP with two episodes a week, 20 weeks and a multi generational cast with modern storylines could absolutely become a buzz worthy show again.

This was way more interesting than I expected. I only know Ilene and Malcolm, because I’ve only seen the SOAPnet run, but obviously I know the characters of Frank and Little John, so I was still able to connect with everyone. Definitely would *love* more Ryan’s Hope. So many cast members are still out there who I’d love to hear from. Also since y’all mention it, I still think moving RH for Loving was a huge mistake. RH was critically acclaimed and had good ratings. I feel had they not messed with it, they likely could’ve kept that show on the air into the 00s. I get that Agnes was a name, but if you don’t have space for the show then you shouldn’t have done it. Or put it at noon. I also find it sad that Ryan’s Hope ended when it did because I’ve read that final year was really strong.

I am going to disagree. I will say I’ve never done as big of an about face as I have with Jen. I just knew she’d be my favorite, but I cannot stand her. She is fronting 100%. She has a small house in the suburbs and is renting that house, her car is rented and her glam squad is her family. I’m sure those clothes are rented too. She’s been trying overtime to make this feud with Mary work and it doesn’t add up. I think she’s jealous of Mary’s wealth for sure and I do think Mary being black bothers her because she’s fitting in better and they’re the only minorities in the cast. At first I thought the hospital comment was rude, but we see that Mary didn’t mention Jen specifically, which Jen admitted episode one. And then she kept mentioning her Aunt, which Mary didn’t know about at the time, to make it seem like Mary was making fun of her Aunt. Mary apologized and still we have Jen telling the girls they can’t be friends with Mary (which is childish) and making fun of her marriage. I also thought it was a dig to apologize to Meredith at Mary’s event and pay Mary dust. I completely saw why Mary got upset and I hate that nobody defended Mary in person, only in the talking heads because they’re afraid Jen will blow up at them. Im also not believing Jen’s version of events about the 7/11 comment, which she clearly held on to weaponize in this quest to make everybody hate Mary. Jen has shown she lies and exaggerates for me to take her word over an actual Black woman. Mary has bit her tongue this entire time so I loved watching her gather Jen at the luncheon. I still don’t see Jen having many friends by the end of the season. As for Mary being anti-black, I just don’t see it. She seems to have a lot of emotional issues stemming from her marriage, but to me she looks black, she has a largely black church, via Instagram she only listens to black music and from what I’ve seen from her real life, her friends are all black. I just don’t buy what Jen is trying to sell.

@Taoboi I think that is another scam from Erika and Tom. He had all this time to respond and conveniently waited until a lawsuit was filled saying their divorce was a scam? Just looks to me like he’s playing hardball to undercut that lawsuit. “How could it be fake if I’m asking her to pay my attorney fees and asking for no spousal support?” That’s just my speculation.

My thing is, I don’t mind her with Abe and I don’t begrudge Abe a love interest, but every Black woman shouldn’t be with him. Valerie for example could’ve been tested with Steve or Rafe and Sheila never should’ve even been considered romantically for Abe. That was ridiculous. I wouldn’t mind Jackee going against Lauren Koslow for Abe though.

I hope this is what they’re leading Jackee to believe, a proper revival for their black cast. I want Vanessa Williams to also have good story. Abe should not be the only person option for black women, move Valerie around the canvas! I also like that Jackee will have a daughter. And as y’all have mentioned with Jonah, there are also other Carvers who can return. Don’t just stunt cast, DO something with the talent u have. It drives me nuts how successful Vanessa Williams is but Days treats her like a day player.

I’ve continued trying to watch the show and just like when I initially watched the show, I find it hard to watch without Nicollette. What’s particularly insulting is when they bring on Vanessa Williams as an exact replica of Edie. It was so similar that you can’t help but compare the two and Williams was terrible in the part.

Jen is a dog for that! She is one of two people who knew that and threw it out for such a petty reason. That isn’t what friends do. I hate bitches like that. After tomorrow we will have pretty much the entire trailer so I’m excited for what’s to come SLC is full of surprises. This feels like a season 3 or 4 because it’s such a well oiled machine. Everybody is pulling their weight and bringing it. Hell, I’d even be okay with a filler episode at this point because they’ve given so much! Now Potomac?! Going out with a damn BANG! That finale clip plus everything that has happened has me hyped for the reunion.