Chris B

Miami tonight (well the entire two part episode) was better than any water down Posche fashion show! That was entertaining on so many different levels. So much actually happened unlike that Teresa pileup with the boring Stripper-gate. Instead of texting people they won't reveal and talking in code or accusing people of things we didn't see--Miami brought the drama. Plus it wasn't too dark. We had some comedy, sex appeal and lots of entertainment! I hope the ratings go up. I can't wait to see gifs from this episode. Joanna is a total trashbox lol. I love her!

Based on what you've heard maybe, but that's not a reality of what really happens. One of the most refreshing aspects of Basketball Wives: LA is that they DO show their personal lives and have storylines that involve more than "He said she said" and meeting for drinks like the Miami version. We get to see all of the housewives in their homes, neighborhoods, Malaysia with her childhood friend Bambi, Draya's family (including the son she was arrested for neglecting), Jackie's family, Brooke's kids & dates with Brooke's man. Plus we've seen quite a bit with Matt and Gloria in their house.\ I'm not saying there aren't major problems with the show, but it's simply untrue to say they don't show enough of their lives. The only ones at fault are the producers for not doing a better job at casting and shaping the show.

I'm not sure I believe that article (because the reasoning is untrue), but I do think the producers of this franchise are dumb. To address the problems with violence the fire the three women who were repeatedly attacked. Now they claim those women are being fired on LA because they aren't showing their lives, but that isn't true either. Gloria and Laura being sisters is a bigger family connection than most of these shows have. I do think Gloria is dull and can be fired, but Laura has been a total drama queen. Plus, Brooke has shown (in every episode) her boyfriend AND her kids, something VERY rare for this show. Plus she's brought the drama and sex appeal. I do think LA started off boring this season, but it's picked up and is actually interesting. The ratings spiked with the Draya/Jackie fight and I'm sure the next episode with Brooke and Jackie fighting will pull good ratings.

Karent is such a [!@#$%^&*] stirrer, but I find her brand of drama entertaining. And I LOVE that she does it with a smile, which obviously infuriates the ladies even more.

Regardless of anything, Kim is a full housewife and will be getting probably the largest salary after Nene. Plus she has the money from her spin-off show. I think we'll see Kim a lot, but just not with the other women at events as much. Or things like the international trip and I can't blame her. She has four kids to take care of and as a mother I think we've seen her doing a good job. There is nothing wrong with putting them first, even if it means being fired from this show.

I don't think Kim did anything wrong. She filmed throughout her pregnancy with Kroy Jr, but that was her first child in over 10 years. Obviously if they're getting evicted, they don't have as much money as we thought. Plus she's not speaking to her parents so those are two free babysitters gone. She's an older woman with a toddler, then gets pregnant again, so who could blame her for not filming? That's A LOT on her plate. Especially with a husband out of state for extended periods of time. I think the other women were probably hating because of her spin-off. Don't hate, we all know Nene and Kim are who made this show what it is. They've ALWAYS been the breakout stars.

That promo was perfect! Looks like it'll be a better season than the garbage we got from New Jersey. I can't wait! Kenya seems NUTS!

I agree. This season has been good for Miami. Yes it started a bit slow, like NYC they were basically introducing an entire new show, but I thought it picked up fast and has been one of my favorite seasons of any series. I LOVED Adrianna's like to Karent about going to her office and pulling her patients teeth lol. There is something about Adrianna that I love. She's a perfect housewife. I would love to see her on NYC or Beverly Hills. She would eat those women alive.

I believe t hat episode saved Beverly Hills. It launched after DC, but it couldn't match DC's ratings and had around a 1.2 million for the first few episodes, then it obviously exploded. That was a nice success story. Speaking of exploding, the preview for the second half of Miami's season looked really good. Lots of action which wasn't featured in the first trailer.

Kelly needs to stay gone. I don't think anyone wants to see her, but Alex and Jill I would bring back. I'm sure at least one of the new housewives won't want to come back.

Danielle, Teresa, Melissa, Caroline and two new housewives could work.

Miami is moving to Sunday's, at least for one night and we have a new ATL special. I believe they're promoting this because it's the big slap episode with Joanna and Adrianna. I wonder if RHOM will still air on the previous thursday, the 25th.

I do think a big reason this season started poorly in the ratings is due to 1) The boring first few episodes & 2) The fact that it launched when two series were airing and doing so well at that time. Same reason Miami is lost in Thursdays, but that show is worse off because it's new and doesn't have an existing following. I don't think RHONY suffered because of what happened last season. I think if they had truly brought it viewers would've tuned in. RHONJ will be the one to watch next year. I really feel they need to be even more retooled than New York in order to remain viable. Next season the HWs need to have actual storylines instead of this Everyone vs Teresa. I don't even wanna see Teresa plus 1/2 friends vs the others. I need new storylines. New fueds. A good mix of things. That show has always been so single minded. Season One - That damn book and everything was leading towards that table flip. Season Two - Everyone against Danielle Season Three & Four - The downfall of Teresa Beyond those main storylines everything is filler. I need more than that.

Well I think everybody dresses in clothes that they like and think makes them look good, I still find her personal style bland for a designer. Her clothes just look dated, cheap and inappropriate for her age. Her bathing suits are RIDICULOUS. I think Jill was right here. The ratings started really low and they only sparked with the St. Barth's episodes, but never reached what they were getting last season. They didn't have one episode over 2 million. I don't think it was a HUGE failure, but it wasn't a clear success. I think this season did it's job of retooling the series, but now that it's stable they need to bring it next year.

I think Heather, for a designer and a stylist looked terrible the entire season and at the reunion. Her style is either tacky or forgettable. Aviva may have bad skin, look 60 and be a bitch, but she has a banging body and knows how to dress it. Same for the other ladies mostly. I think Ramona and Heather were the worst in terms of fashion. I found Jill's return interview interesting. She shed light on some of the behind the scenes things that go on, but she did seem a bit delusional. I don't know what happened to her after season two, but she needs to blame herself. She's come off poorly far too much to blame Bravo or Bethenny. She even made it clear how hard she pushed for storylines. Like she said, she has an interesting family to feature so she didn't need to create a feud with Bethenny. We already know they tried to get Alex back for season five when filming started poorly so I don't think a return for Jill was out of the question. I DO think that she probably blew it based on this interview with Andy. I would love to see Alex on WWHL again, in a regular setting, not a one-on-one interview. I could see her successfully working her way back in and playing the game the right way. Silex has already been on once since getting fired.

I didn't say no sides should be taken and nothing should be discussed. What I was saying is that there is so much more to dicuss beyond what's on screen. Especially if the show is bringing real life into things by mentioned the magazine.

I know it's a tv show, but the scripting of it is very relevant as well. That's a major part of the show. Just because the show says it's true, doesn't mean something is.

Why is everybody, fans and the cast acting like the edited show is accurate? We all know the Fabelini party with Dina was aired out of order on the show, yet you still have Jaquline crying in talking heads about how her friend didn't invite her. This was after the Posche fashion show and reunion when they stopped speaking! Plus, Dina revealed they edited the conversation to make it sound like she was talking about Caroline and she wasn't, yet everybody acts like the Bravo script is correct. And as for setting Melissa up, who the hell cares if she was a stripper? If this is a setup it's obviously a BRAVO setup against Teresa. Look at the end result, Melissa came out looking like roses. We know (confirmed by Danielle AND Kim G) that both were contacted by producers to return for the Posche fashion show. The original storyline was supposed to be Danielle returning and exposing how Melissa contacted her to get on the show and trash Teresa. When Danielle turned them down they decided to bring on Kim G to fued with Teresa. When Kim G turned them down they decided to do this stripper thing with Melissa, which would turn the cast against Teresa for trying to cause drama in her family. Let's not act like this is real and not heavily scripted. The situations and story arcs are setup and the cast reactions are genuine. This is why Cat Rodriguez, the previous producer, was fired.

Okay, this really pisses me off. I saw an article that season two of Shah's of Sunset will premiere December 2nd, so it's going to air every Sunday after RHOA. Yet RHOM was stuck on Thursday nights away from everything. That pisses me off. In the past they've always scheduled new shows after popular ones, at least in the beginning, to give it a quick boost. It feels like they aren't even trying.

All of Teresa's cover stories are about her own life, not the other wives. The one mentioning the other wives was a story where she apologized to them. Compare that to the cover Melissa had, which she only got because it was to bash Teresa. I think Teresa has already proven she can stand up on her own without the other ladies. Celebrity Apprentice and her books have proven that. She doesn't need the other ladies to get press.

Haters can hate, but Teresa is the star of this show and I do think thats a huge part of why the other ladies dislike her. Since season 1 she's the main reason viewers tune in. She's the one providing the action, especially with Danielle gone. Everything in seasons 3 and 4 is centered around Teresa. Say you keep the other four housewives and dump Teressa, you have no show. This is why I don't understand why they seem so Anti-Teresa, especially Andy Cohen. She's his star! She's the one housewife I truly feel, if she left she'd get her own show. There is no doubt vh1 would pick her up and she'd have a huge, highly rated show. The same can't be said about the others.

Okay I figured yall weren't lol! All is good in the world now.

Y&RWorldTurner, are you MarkH on Twitter? I could've sworn I saw him tweet about waiting the Loving movie earlier lol.

New Jersey fans, there will be a surprise airings of Part 3 of the reunion before RHOM tonight. Andy mentioned it on WWHL, but what is the point if it won;t be promoted?

Knowing she was lying, I didn't feel much sympathy for her. I understand it was a horrific accident, but she only lost her foot in the accident. She CHOSE to have the rest of the leg amputated as an adult for comfort. Aviva is one of the most stuck up, prejudice people I've ever seen on a show like this. She uses her accident for sympathy, but she's LUCKY. How many people could afford a swimming leg? She's been privileged her entire life and as far as being an amputee she's had it easy.