Y&R: June 2025 Spoilers

[janea4old]

It's real and it's current.  Joshua Morrow recorded this Cameo for Mothers Day 2025.  Mothers Day 2025 was May 9th. He would probably have recorded it a few days early, so that the purchaser would be able to send it to the intended recipient in time.
Link to the original:
https://www.cameo.com/joshuamorrow/feed/681c26a59d1dd2086390ddc8

"I'm just sitting here at work, waiting to go on. We've been shooting this massive story, this murder mystery extravaganza thing.  And uh, long hours, *LONG* hours - but we're just digging in, you know, just making it happen, and um, you know, just grinding.  Because that's what we do on The Young and The Restless.  You want to be on the Number One show, it's what you do, you work your tail off."

Edited June 7 by janea4old

[Paul Raven]

A murder mystery?

Well a murder needs a victim.

I can see it being Dumas. And various characters with a motive. But of course Dumas won't be dead-just toying with people to see who would try and bump him off.

Can't think of anyone else who could be killed.

If they are working long hours I can see this as an explanation as to why things have been deadly dull for weeks.

The show has been saving up money to pay for the Dumas set, having more characters onscreen and working extra hours to bring it all together.

And JFP is there to bring her expertise at producing this kind of thing.

Edited June 7 by Paul Raven

[Ryanc2]

I’ll keep an open mind I guess. If it’s Cane it wouldn’t make much sense though. Why would anyone wanna kill Cane? (I haven’t been an avid viewer so unless I’ve missed something I can’t see why anyone would care enough to kill Cane) 

Edited June 8 by Ryanc2

[janea4old]

My thoughts on some of the possible rumors/spumors/spoilers

There was a "Cane" name on a hanger in wardrobe.   
Well it said "CA...." (the end was obscured) but it looked like "CANE"
but it's not absolutely clear.

Possibilities to explain the name on the hanger:

• Dumas is a pseudonym for a recast Cane
• or there is a Cane recast, who is a separate character from Dumas
• or they cast someone to play Cane temporarily
• or they cast someone to play Cane only in flashbacks.
• Or the name on the hanger that starts with "CA" is actually another character.

For months, the assumption has been that Billy Flynn is playing Dumas.
Now the speculation is that Billy Flynn is Dumas who is actually Cane.

The only other sign pointing to Cane is that Damian asked Lily about her husbands recently and she told him about Daniel and Cane, and she said Cane broke her heart.

The running wild speculation is that Cane is doing some grand gesture as Dumas in order to impress Lily.  I think that's ridiculous; but I'm listing all the theories, and that's one theory.

There is also a theory (despite the enormous age discrepancy)
that Dumas is a pseudonym for Tucker.
I don't agree with that one, but I'm also listing it with all the theories here.

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1) Why on earth would Victor Newman or Jack Abbott care about lowlife Cane?
2) Is it really possible that con artist Cane has become a mysterious billionaire?
3) If Dumas is really Cane, why doesn't the all-knowing Victor know this?

4) If Dumas and Cane are the same person, then the show has completely changed the character to fit the plot, making Cane into some powerful yet debonair brilliant businessman.  Total rewrite.

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Since they are going to all this trouble to cast Billy Flynn on Y&R, then I doubt that his character will be murdered (regardless of whatever character he's playing, they wouldn't kill him off this soon.)

If Cane and Dumas are two separate people, then I could believe the show might kill off Cane, but then again, why would anyone bother about Cane?

So, I have no idea who will be murdered.
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End of my thoughts.

Edited June 8 by janea4old

[Ryanc2]

I wonder if there are any other theories about who Dumas could be. What if he is an entirely new character? I’ve seen the theories on Facebook about it being Tucker or Drucilla but I think we’re past the point of being able to rule them out of even being a possibility. 

[janea4old]

I do believe that Billy Flynn has the ability to play a powerful yet debonair brilliant businessman, so Billy Flynn is likely "Aristotle Dumas".  I just don't know Dumas' real name.

As I said on another thread, I would have loved for Amanda (or resurrected Hillary) to be the real Dumas.  With Billy Flynn playing a rival.

Edited June 8 by janea4old

[janea4old]

Michelle Stafford posted a video on instagram
on June 7 and she says that "yesterday" (June 6) they had donuts ...
and you can see that Mishael Morgan is there and still taping.

Stafford says in the caption that they've been working very long hours recently.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DKmt3Bxx0gU/

June 7, 2025
therealstafford
I meant to post this yesterday to celebrate one of my favorite holidays!!! #nationaldonutday One of our amazing stage managers #Fritzi surprised us all with donuts!! We’ve been shooting very long hours recently at Y&R. I hope you enjoy what’s to come.

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[janea4old]

Conner Floyd IG stories June 7, 2025

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That might be a clue, or it might be a random post. 

I remember a few years ago, Conner Floyd posted a photograph of a Crimson Lights menu, which had details. 
** (It showed sandwiches and salads, which I never heard of Crimson Lights selling.)
So I wondered back then if it was a spoiler that Sharon or her manager was going to make a change, but this menu was never seen or discussed onscreen.  I guess he just thought it was an interesting prop?

Re: this new photo  -- either there's a change coming, or it's an old prop.

It almost looks like nice linen for a table setting.  Could this be for the Dumas event?

Edited June 8 by janea4old

[janea4old]

Regarding the spoiler photos upthread of the creepy old man that Mariah is having flashbacks about...
Since the flashbacks were shown in black-and-white, I first thought that the color photos were new for something later in the week..

But these color photos are labeled for Monday June 9, U.S.

I now see that the flashbacks are primarily in black-and-white,
with split-second fade-in and fade-out of the full color.
The color is barely noticeable.
These might be photos of the original taping in color,
-- when they were taping footage to be later edited to be black-and-white with the fading in and out of glimpses of color?

Edited June 8 by janea4old

[janea4old]

My speculation about the Mariah trauma and the old man
(Michael Swan character)
The man approached her at the bar, when she was in her drunken state of mental collapse... I speculate that she hallucinated that the guy was Ian, or thought he expected her to do things that Ian had programmed her to do in the past,  and then I *speculate* that Mariah tried to defend herself from... a real or imagined attack from this man.

Regarding the murder mystery: What if it's not tied to the Dumas storyline?
What if it's about the mystery man in Mariah's flashbacks -- maybe she killed him; or someone else killed him and she thinks she did it?

Edit to add (More SPECULATION)
If Mariah thinks she killed someone (justified or not, real or imaginary) ... if she thinks she murdered someone, then it would explain why she feels it would be unsafe to confide in Tessa or Sharon.  She wouldn't want them to protect her by hiding information, causing them to be accessories after-the-fact.   Maybe that's why Mariah says in the preview video that none of this is safe to talk about.

Edited June 9 by janea4old

[janea4old]

Sneak peek photo of a Y&R set for the Aristotle Dumas estate in France.
On the Billy Flynn "casting shocker" thread at this post
https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/68394-daysyr-casting-shocker/?do=findComment&comment=2028749

It seems that the actors were/are still taping on the "France" set(s), and it will air into July or longer.

Edited June 9 by janea4old

[janea4old]

Tuesday June 10 U.S. (Monday June 9 CDN)

Quoting the Canadian recapper (Link) . . . Damian gives Lily a signed edition of the history of jazz. He says that when he saw it, he thought of Neil and thought it might mean something to her. He apologizes if he overstepped. She explains the book was one of her dad’s favorites. They lost his copy and she felt awful about it.  Choked up, Lily tells him it’s a wonderful gift. It’s surreal to see it.

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[janea4old]

Tuesday June 10 U.S. (Mon. June 9 CDN)

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[janea4old]

season 52, episode 173
Thursday June 12 U.S. (Wed. June 11 CDN)

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[janea4old]

Week of June 9-13

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