ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion

[Contessa Donatella]

THANKS!!! So much!! 

[Paul Raven]

A number of errors in the above article. You wonder how with all that research,how  they slipped through.

I think they are conflating Women Alone with Lonely Women. I have never read anything of a serial called Women Alone. However,I am prepared to be proven wrong.

 

It seems Irna actually WAS interested in TV soaps as witnessed by These Are My Children airing in 1949 on NBC in the early days of TV.

 

I don't believe that was reluctance, rather simply good business sense as radio's dominance began to wane.

 

Inferring that was somehow connected to Irna who was off that show 10 years prior.

 

Again inferring that Phillips leaving 6 years prior had some connection to the eventual cancellation.

 

 

Again these two events are in fact one. Irna left ATWT only once in 1970 and returned in 72. She was not working on another P&G show at the time. So either she brought the ratings up or they dipped, depending on which above account you believe

 

Untrue. A World Apart debuted 5 years after she left AW. And AWA aired longer than a few months. Over a year in fact.

 

I believe Orin Tovrov was the writer. Irna was not involved in the creation of this show. And no mention of Masquerade an Irna serial  which was on air around this time.

 

TBD finished in 1962.

As we see over and over, these inaccuracies are published and accepted as fact.

[Contessa Donatella]

I know! It's like second verse, here we go again! 

Agreed. Certainly there was concern maybe even fear at the highest levels for the very good reason that what they had was so economically successful, so of course this risk was scary but if anyone was brave she was.

Yes, he was. I have seen her associated with getting it on the air one other place but no details nor official title. Not the writer or creator so it made me wonder if she functioned as a kind of uncredited ad hoc producer, but then maybe she just supported it. At any rate that is nothing but supposition on my part. No data!

Yes, not a surprise anymore but still so frustrating! On one hand I am appreciative that she is included in this book, but scholarship where are you?!

Edited yesterday at 02:02 PM by Contessa Donatella

[Contessa Donatella]

 

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1996 Daytime Emmy Awards
Opening & 1st Emmy
In Primetime, on CBS, at Radio City Music Hall, NY, NY
Hosts: Eric Braeden & Melody Thomas Scott, featuring the Rockettes!
Best Supporting Actor nominees: GL Frank Beatty, B&B Ian Buchanan, GH Stuart Damon, AW David Forsyth, GH Michael Sutton, GL Jerry verDorn & Jerry takes home his second statue! In accepting he shouts out Bill Roerick.

[Contessa Donatella]

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1996 Daytime Emmys GH Best Show, their 4th win, Wendy Riche EP accepting she calls out 3 lost to death - Lee Mathis, Rosalind Cash & John Beradino. She concludes with Claire Labine's words, delivered by Mary Mae to Stone who was near death. It's famous now, "Every moment of my life, whether filled with joy or with pain has potential for grace realized. ... These are gifts from god. ..."

[Contessa Donatella]

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DAYS 9-25-90 First Day in Drag for Jack Deveraux who is allowed to be quite pretty. Matt Ashford plays him.

[Contessa Donatella]

Usual video hosting site, acct: shallotpeel, video title: 1996 Daytime Emmys Abridged Soaps Only
 

1996 Daytime Emmy Awards Presentation Show
abridged, non-soap content has been edited out
On 5-22-1996, in NY, NY, at Radio City Music Hall, featuring the Rockettes, in primetime on CBS, our hosts, Eric Braeden & Melody Thomas Scott begin at the beginning by presenting the traditional first Emmy, Best Supporting Actor, with nominees GL Frank Beatty, B&B Ian Buchanan, GH Stuart Damon, AW David Forsyth, GH Michael Sutton & GL Jerry verDorn where he takes home his second statue & in accepting shouts out Bill Roerick who died this past year.
EB & MTS introduce AW Jensen Buchanan & Tom Eplin who present Best Supporting Actress with nominees GH Rosalind Cash, AW Anna Holbrook, Y&R Victoria Rowell, Y&R Michelle Stafford & Y&R Tonya Lee Williams with Anna Holbrook taking the win & in accepting she shouted out to Rosalind Cash who played Mary Mae Ward on GH & has recently passed. 
Louie Anderson, comic & the cartoon "The Mask" presented a pre-produced segment on Daytime. 
MTS explained about the red ribbons & then introduced from OLTL Thorsten Kaye, Susan Haskell & Christopher Douglas who presented a children's show award, not shown here. 
EB & MTS introduced some CBS news people who presented Game Show, not shown here.
EB & MTS introduced Clarence who did his schtick & showed off the pre-produced segment on AMC where "Edmund & Maria" played around with Clarence. 
EB & MTS introduced from B&B Susan Flannery & Ronn Moss who presented Best Younger Actor with nominees OLTL Nathan Fillion, GH JJ Jonathan Jackson, GL Kevin Mambo, Y&R Shemar Moore & Y&R Josh Morrow with Kevin Mambo taking the win for his role on GL as "Marcus".
MTS introduced ATWT Shawn Christian, Alexander Wolter & Brandon Pickett who presented Best Younger Actress with nominees GL Kimberly J. Brown, ATWT Martha Byrne, Y&R Sharon Case, GH Kimberly McCullough & Y&R Heather Tom with McCullough winning & giving an acceptance speech. 
EB introduced something not shown here. 
EB & MTS introduced B&B Kimberlin Brown & Ian Buchanan who presented Best Writing Team with nominees AW, ATWT, OLTL & AMC winning for their 3rd time with 15 on the team, Lorraine Broderick accepting & honoring all the other nominees, various AMC execs & all of the AMC actors! 
The emcee voiceover introduced Susan Lucci who then herself introduced from DAYS Kristian Alfonso & Peter Reckell who presented Clarence again & the "show off" of DAYS. 
EB & MTS introduced Y&R Peter Bergman & ATWT Eileen Fulton who presented Best Directing Team with nominees AMC, DAYS, GH & Y&R with Y&R taking home its 5th win in this category. Heather Hill accepted. 
EB threw again to Clarence for GH. 
EB introduced NYPD Blue James McDaniel & DAYS Deidre Hall who presented Best Actor with nominees GH Maurice Benard, Y&R Peter Bergman, Y&R Eric Braeden, AMC David Canary & AW Charles Keating who won for the first time & gave a lovely acceptance speech where he said that no one wins by themselves & that it is a collaborative effort so he accepts on behalf of the AW acting ensemble. 
MTS introduced GL Michael Zaslow & Kim Zimmer who presented Best Actress with nominees AW Jensen Buchanan, AW Linda Dano, AMC Susan Lucci, OLTL Erica Slezak & Y&R Jess Walton with Slezak taking home #5 & making a gracious acceptance speech which included nods to all the other nominees. 
VO introduced Y&R Shemar Moore & Victoria Rowell who presented Clarence again, this time to show off Y&R. 
EB & MTS introduced Charles Shaughnessey ex-DAYS & current-The Nanny who presented Best Show with nominees AMC, DAYS, GH & Y&R where GH won for their 4th time with EP Wendy Riche accepting & first calling out 3 losses they had this year: Lee Mathis, Rosalind Cash & John Beradino. Then in a brilliant moment she invoked the words of Claire Labine, said by Rosalind Cash as Mary Mae Ward to Stone, near death, a now very famous quote: "Every moment of my life, whether filled with joy or with pain, has the potential for grace realized. Whether it's an opportunity to learn, or whether it's to make a connection, or whether it's to find love which you didn't think existed, these are gifts from god & to throw them back in his face is something unthinkable to me."