GH: November 2024 Discussion Thread

[Vee]

The only silver lining!

Watching Robert totter off with trick-ass Holly at this point was depressing, but I do think Tristan needs to retire. I am glad Elizabeth told Lucky off though. I get why people are infuriated with it but I think the only way to deal with what has become of the character is to have him backslide and be challenged - it makes sense for him that he'd do that. The problem with this, of course, is that this creative team rarely ever writes anything with depth or sustained focus for anyone. So I suspect what we'll get next is weeks or months of Lucky making an effort merely in the background of the main storylines (or talking about having done it offscreen) instead of having real substantive storyline about it or discussions about the issues, and over time and through osmosis that's what will settle the past. Which I find meandering and lazy.

OTOH, hey, it worked for Felicia in 2012.

[AbcNbc247]

They sure do love pairing Tabyana with tall guys lol wasn’t really the best first meeting for the two of them though. I hate when they make Trina sound like Joss. But we’ll see what happens.

The actor looks like Adain Bradley.

As for Robert and Holly, it’s just like with Heather: what was the point of everything that happened if they were going to be written out? I don’t get it. 

[Contessa Donatella]

I agree. Diane's hair has always looked funny. But, today, I was very glad that self-respect was on Diane's mind. I was surprised, though, at the vulnerability she showed.

Another thing, about Diane, for 2 days (at least I think time is passing) she has been the most kind, considerate, thoughtful friend to Alexis. I knew they considered each other besties but I had no idea Diane had it in her to be this kind of friend!!

[Taoboi]

I thought that in the casting thread. Good to see I'm not alone on that.

[carolineg]

Yeah, I don't think it was a great exit for Robert, but it's acceptable.  It all seemed slapped together last minute.

I really don't understand why Lucky isn't getting more focus.  He returned and then faded into the background.  The same thing happened with Jason for awhile when eventually, as you noted, things just went back to the way they were in the past with only the tiniest bit of effort.

I don't get this either.  It honestly makes no sense.  If both Holly/Robert are leaving (for now) the show could have just retconned Ethan to be their son and they had to go off and find him for whatever reason.

Sasha seems to be getting a story with the Willow/Michael/Drew mess, so it wasn't even necessary to give her something to do.

[AbcNbc247]

Especially with the whole Cody/Sasha thing.

You don’t build two people up as a couple for over a year, only to have them be revealed as cousins. 

I mean like, how did that even get the green light?

Edited November 12, 2024 by AbcNbc247

[carolineg]

Very true.  I was thinking maybe the show clearly wanted to free JK/Cody up for something new and, no,  I don't believe it's Tracy.  Cody/Sasha could easily had a misunderstanding that led Sasha to get drunk and sleep with Michael and get pregnant.  They really didn't have to be blood related lol.

[Vee]

It's just the FV way of block taping that shortchanges any coherent storytelling or throughlines. It's been getting worse since the end of OLTL.

[Aragorn]

Lucky will change after Lulu wakes up and stays in Port Charles.

[Vee]

Nothing I could say about Trina and the new guy would be fair or appropriate other than to say I wish they'd cast the Black Quartermaine character that was rumored during PM's run instead. Do I find it surprising that the male of color who has appeared instead is a random newbie with no real ties, summoning the spectre of Bryan and Claudia? No.

As for Gio and Trina, I'll just say again that poor GM has a) a very nice body they seem intent on hiding and b) a character with the personality of amiable tofu, and he could be and do more. Am I surprised they didn't let her near him romantically after all? No.

Edited November 12, 2024 by Vee

[Taoboi]

THIS.

 

But I feel like...as a loose theory...that perhaps the New/Old Writers are kicking any PM story loose ends off the boat. Heather, the Drew Q, Nina/Drew, etc. to spin off into what will be their actual stories. Again loose theory. 

Edited November 12, 2024 by Taoboi

[carolineg]

Instead of insane blocking taping to save costs perhaps he can look at getting rid of 25% of his cast.  I am sure Kelly wasn't cheap and frees up some money, but why pay JJ to do basically nothing when there are multiple stories he could be involved in?

[Taoboi]

+ 1

[Contessa Donatella]

I think I've said this before, but, here goes. In my opinion someone (know not who) is specifically blocking any major trimming of the cast. This theoretical person (or persons) likes  having a humongous cast & also probably likes being able to rotate among so many different people. I have a theory about who this is but that's all it is. I think it's Varni & the reason I think that is because I have long thought he doesn't know his hat from a door handle when it comes to soaps or to soap fans. 

But, if it's not Varni, it's gotta be someone from Disney. To me it is clear they won't let people who know what they're doing to cut 15 people from this bloated cast. 

And, this is more than enough opinion from me. Please, if you agree that it is someone, who do you think it is? 

[Taoboi]

11-5

 

I know I'm going to shock @carolineg, but poor Diane. She's not my favorite side character, but even I felt sorry watching her today.

 

And by sorry, I meant her walking in on Robert and Holly. I guess I really zoned out on the Robert/Holly scenes on 11-4. So much so that I didn't realize they were close to kissing. And Holly with that smug grin on her face. Ugh. Cat that ate the canary look? Yes. But did I like it? Even though I love catfights, no. In that moment what could have been a nice triangle was made clear to be one-sided. I guess I liked that Diane saw the writing on the wall in the same episode and knew it was time to bounce.

 

Hmmm...I continue to like the gradual reveal that Sam died to the general PC community. This episode with Jason telling Diane (and SB selling that). Carly letting Willow and Sasha know. Alexis, Molly, and Kristina dealing with the aftermath with TJ. That felt that was all good. Except for Kristina making it about her. I rather the focus stayed on Alexis (NLG looked like hell) who only irked me when she wanted to be sure Molly would forgive Kristina. That said...it was pretty B plot this episode.

 

I thought I would enjoy Willow vs Sasha more. I was Team Sasha, but I found the scenes so weak energy. Not that Sasha was wrong. And look at what Willow immediately did. 

 

Speaking of...so it happened? Willow and Drew had sex? And I felt...??? While it's definitely messy...and at a glance thru the board will be moreso...it was going to be messy beforehand. The only difference being that beforehand, I had everyone's POV and an opinion on it all. So outside of Willow being a big ole H#e, and Drew coming across as a creeper...I'm not sure what to think of them finally doing it. And Michael can't say anything since he had sex with Sasha. I mean their confrontation scenes better bring the heat cuz these Willow vs Sasha scenes, like I said, had weak energy. And Nina again an afterthought. Which seriously...this whole time it has gone on Willow really still doesn't know about Drew and Nina? Even I am sitting here going...wait...how? 

 

And that ending? Well Carly ain't wrong. She knows better people than the police to deal with Sidwell. I'm still shocked it took him this long to make it to Port Charles. And just the fact he got onto the secure Q grounds and kidnapped Sasha. Wow. But...Jason to the rescue. lol.