On 11/19/2023 at 4:59 PM, AMCOLTLLover said:

Yes.. U have to get the apps for them.. VRT for Thuis, VTM for Familie and Videoland for GTST.. Then a VPN and a imaginary account set in Belgium (u just have to type in a fake street based there) and one for the Netherlands

There is no other way anymore around it.. U can find Thuis on YouTube with a lot of episodes but not chronological anymore coz it got deleted. A Superfan Daniel uploaded the first 4030 and got even invited to the fan  event and an Article as an honor about him but they gave him a polite warning to delete the episodes and stop uploading new ones. 
 

U can download the episodes from VTM and VRT easily even though it’s all in order there. Videoland I didn’t tried. 

managed with Thuis BUT No Luck With "familie"

Italy has produces several daytime soap opera over the years:

* Un Posto al Sole (= A Place in the Sun) based on the Australian format "Neighbours" which is still on air today and of which they have also created some spin-offs over the years, Un Posto al Sole d'estate (A Place in the Sun in summer), and TV specials Un Posto al Sole coi fiocchi (=A place in the sun with a bang).

* Vivere (international title Living) lasted for 9 years, a real success of the early 2000s focused on the lives of four families from Como.  Vivere had a remake in Poland entitled Linia życia.

* Centovetrine (international title The Mall) which lasted for 15 years and had many similarities with Vivere as it was produced by the same production company and the same writers and focused on the life of four families in Turin. Centovetrine had a remake in Poland entitled Galeria.

 

* Cuori Rubati (= Stolen Hearts) based on the format of Sons and Daughters of which however it had nothing in common and lasted for only two seasons and like Centovetrine this too was set in Turin. The soap was produced by the same production as Un Posto al Sole.

* In Nome della Famiglia (= In the Name of Family), an unfortunate one-season soap.

* Ricominciare (= Starting Over), another unfortunate Italian soap produced by the same production company as In Nome della Famiglia and of which it shared the same premise. * Sottocasa (= Under the house), soap based on a German "Marienhoff" format whose stories should have had a more realistic connotation than other Italian soaps, so much so that it was defined as "real drama".

* Agrodolce ( = Bitter-sweet) , another Italian soap opera, produced by the same production company as Un Posto al Sole. Very unfortunate soap centered on seven Sicilian families in the fictional town of Lumera.

 

Italy has also produced several prime time soap operas.

The best known:

* Incatesimo (= Enchantment), the first prime time soap opera which later became a daytime soap, centered on a clinic in Rome. Each season featured a change of lead couple.

* Vento di Ponente (= West Wind), prime time megasoap inspired by the Dutch format Westenwind, with intrigues worthy of Dallas and Dynasty, centered on two families of shipowners from Genoa and an impossible love à la Romeo and Juliet.

* Il Bello delle Donne (= The Beauty of Women) , an atypical series, part soap, part black comedy, centered on a beauty salon in Viterbo.

* Le Tre Rose di Eva (= Eva's Three Roses, international title: Tuscan Passion), prime time soap centered on three Tuscan families dealing with impossible loves, mysteries, secrets and a trail of murders. Absolutely one of the best Italian soaps full of twists and turns with inspirations from Dynasty, Falcon crest and The Bold and the Beautiful. The soap has had two remakes, a Turkish one entitled Zeytin Tepesi (= The Hill of Olives) and a Malaysian one entitled Dendam Aurora (Aurora's Revenge)

* Una Grande Famiglia (= A Big Family), prime time series inspired by Dallas and Brothers and Sisters and centered on a family of entrepreneurs from Lombardy.

* Il Paradiso delle Signore (= The Ladies' Paradise), also like Incantesimo, started in prime time and then became a daytime soap, currently still on air.

La Promesa Had one of it's finest scenes yet this past Friday, The Villainess Jimena Finally lashed out all of her pain and Disappointment before committing suicide! 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist%3Flist%3DPLEop5aXmMtnDXT-nGzbaGEeDh-J6EORsL&ved=2ahUKEwjTlruDueWHAxWtFLkGHTOFBWMQjjh6BAgkEAE&usg=AOvVaw3QR2j8cqo5wtR_5INPMr2_ 

CUORI RUBATI IS FULLY ON YOUTUBE

It's the Italian Adaptation of "Sons And Daughters" but I am not sure they kept the twins storyline

I hope this thread is the adequate place for what I wanted to post. It's coming from a different discussion in the OLTL topic. I just wanted to tag @DRW50 with a few clips depicting Eda - one of the most legendary (If not THE MOST) antagonists in Turkish soaps history.

Very similar to Marty... when she is alone... she had these envy-driven breakdowns.

That's just Eda on a regular day. Strangling people for fun.

He hobby is pushing people from high places.

And that ICONIC moment when she poisoned the main character before her wedding, leading to her miscarriage (a short part of the original audio by the end is replaced by youtube due to copyright reasons)

Edited yesterday at 01:41 PM1 day by Maxim

Thanks so much for taking time to find all these clips @Maxim

I guess that girl is her daughter?

The actress has a way with a sneaky and cold stare.

I did love how she brazenly pushed that guy off the construction even with so many people around. That's a true supervillain.

9 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks so much for taking time to find all these clips @Maxim

I guess that girl is her daughter?

The actress has a way with a sneaky and cold stare.

I did love how she brazenly pushed that guy off the construction even with so many people around. That's a true supervillain.

If I'm not mistaken (because I'm talking from memories... and I don't know Turkish language) - that's her mother and younger sister. She despises her family and their poor background. She wants to present herself as this high class society woman. In the first clip, she spots her mom (who keeps reminding her of their poverty and wants money) shopping for trendy clothes... So, she's not as broke as she claims. This infuriates Eda... as we can see. Haha.

She's a deeply troubled character, and I appreciated how they explored her rough childhood and neglect that shaped her into such a wicked person. Her mother didn't take care of her at all. So... she was not born evil, she became that way, which adds depth. I hate when antagonists are JUST EVIL without any explanation. We witness her in pain and turmoil, mostly envious of other people's wealth, partners, and careers... and she's particularly fixated on the protagonist - Scheherazade. If I recall correctly... (I watched this show almost 16 years ago in my teens) she and Scheherazade were schoolmates, and she was jealous of her even back then, wanting to BE her. One of her biggest regrets is that Scheherazade never noticed her. It's almost like love turned to hate. Fast forward years later, she works for Scheherazade's husband and becomes her best friend, all while secretly plotting and having these constant jealous breakdowns in private. The contrast of her trashing her apartment daily after work, just minutes after smiling at Scheherazade like they're sisters and offering help, is iconic. The way she conceals her true motives and inserts herself into the protagonist's life is what made it entertaining. Nowadays, antagonists are too obvious... their intentions are usually clear to the main characters way too soon. I love when the evil is hidden, only revealed to the audience. Eda lives two lives - one in which we see her true self, and the other, the fake loving persona she shows the world. Classic villain stuff.

And even with the show's typical melodrama that is not everyone's cup of tea... it has aged surprisingly well for nearly a 20 year old show. I need to find the Bulgarian dubbed version and watch it some day again.

She's in her Sheila Carter era here... in hiding. After killing bunch of people. 😁

Thanks for the extra details @Maxim

Being ashamed of poverty and her mother and sister is a very old school melodramatic choice but one that is still more common today than you'd think. Something that soaps should tap into instead of the fantasy world of everyone looking perfect.

The show has very polished visuals - it looks much better than a lot of stuff on now with their cheap, flat HD and/or being filmed like someone is peeking out from a closet.

19 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

The show has very polished visuals - it looks much better than a lot of stuff on now with their cheap, flat HD and/or being filmed like someone is peeking out from a closet.

Yes, I didn't ever remember how polished it was... and sounds so good too. The composer of the entire show is this very famous Turkish musician Kirac. I love good background music and this show benefits from it so much.

21 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Being ashamed of poverty and her mother and sister is a very old school melodramatic choice but one that is still more common today than you'd think. Something that soaps should tap into instead of the fantasy world of everyone looking perfect.

That would be great, indeed! And so much material can come of it. Years and years of material and storylines. And I agree, it's more common than people think. So many try to erase their roots, cutting ties with old friends and family once they become rich or famous... or are on their way up. I've seen it so many times. And there's that certain type that acts like they were raised in the Queen's palace and makes condescending looks of the way others eat, drink... dress... but if you look into it... they were definitely not born in a palace. Had a friend like that... married such a pig of a man in the end and I'm still shocked how her high and mighty attitude managed to end with a man like that. But then... I'm not shocked either.

The show was a massive hit, a sensation, really... the first Turkish series in Bulgaria. Nobody knew what to expect, but after the first 1 or 2 episodes, half the country was hooked. A month later, even grandpas who never watched stuff like that were tuning in. It broke all records for viewership. I think only The Bold And The Beautiful when it was premiering in the early 90s... was at that level of public engagement.

I have this funny memory from when the show was it's peak popularity - I was at this fast food place, and the girl making my sandwich was totally distracted by the TV above, staring at 1001 Nights during a dramatic moment. I told her, "Take your time! Watch if you want! I’ll join you!" We laughed, and I’ll never forget how that show had everyone so obsessed they couldn’t even work while it was on. She took like 10 minutes to finish making that sandwich, because we were watching the show.

Aaaand talking about Eda... there's this famous saying that I still hear to this day. When friends or acquaintances chat about someone who seems too nice or perfect, people in Bulgaria often say, "Watch out! They are like Eda from 1001 Nights!" Even 16 years later, that phrase is still a thing. So iconic. You know you've done you're job when people are calling their neighbor the name of one of your characters. 🤭

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by Maxim