February 15, 201214 yr Member Jeremy Renner is someone else mentioned in that category, along with the always dull Bradley Cooper. I think that if Bomer had ever really kept trying for a major Hollywood career, he'd be dating Renee Zellweger right now.
February 15, 201214 yr Member As long as actors are punished for being openly gay, there will always be a closet. In this case I think it's enough, but some will always want a celebrity to make a big coming out (although then they are criticized for playing on a token status, and being a bad role model). Yeah, it's become a can't win situation. I do get where some of the annoyance from both sides comes from, but I think it's hypocritical. (There was someone on CNN recently--and she was a well meaning liberal blogger, who mentioned how coming out now is a marketing tool--for a flagging career, etc. She didn't fully convince me though as she mainly used people like Lance Bass who really has had no career--and NSync were on their way out--since he came out, or that country singer who declared she was a lesbian and then sold even less albums, and she freely admitted that in many fields--like sports--there's still very little chance of major figures coming out and seeing it as a career boost. When you're Sean Hayes--and I think it's good he finally came out if kinda silly--you already realized that everyone,m including casting directors had decided you WERE gay and should always play gay and had nothing to lose).
February 15, 201214 yr Member Jeremy Renner is someone else mentioned in that category, along with the always dull Bradley Cooper. I think that if Bomer had ever really kept trying for a major Hollywood career, he'd be dating Renee Zellweger right now. I think (but this may be the theatre snob in me) it's partly Bomer's ties to theatre that have kept him a bit out of eternally seeking that dream--he mentioned recently how returning to the stage last year made him realize what he loved most about acting-- and seeing you can have a decent career without being Tom Cruise. Of course it hasn't hurt that he does have a sizeably popular show already. And while I'm not sure why anyone would be fascinated with Cooper (who I really did like way back in... Alias I guess was the last time), while his agnet must be still going on and on about howhe's the next massive star, there's no way he could be convinced to come out of the closet--and in this case I don't blame him.
February 15, 201214 yr Member It's always kind of a joke, because people go on about the importance of coming out, but as the reaction at Afterelton proved, coming out just leaves many people seeing the worst of you and having a long list of complaints. Oh, he's still not really out. Oh, he needs to put his family on the cover of People. Edited February 15, 201214 yr by CarlD2
February 15, 201214 yr Member And then when/if he does put his family on the cover of People not only will it probably do little for his career (frankly, good or bad), but many will complain too. I hope this is just some interim phase society has--albeit if it is, I admit it probably will last a while longer--but. The double irony for me--and I think you've said this too--is there really aren't movie stars (or even stars--even people, love her or hate her, like Gaga) the way there used to be. An a lot of this is due I think to the complete control the studio system had over people. Yet in aspects such as this, people behave (public and industry together) like there are, and these people could be. I do think it's somewhat a positive sign in Hollywood that names really don't sell movies like they used to. Many of the movies are just a awful as ever, but it's been proven that despite whatever success people like Ryan Reynolds oddly have (and they do in the sense that they sell magazines, people talk about them online), they don't sell pictures anymore. Maybe that will make a shift in odds.
February 15, 201214 yr Member It's just mostly empty hype. Look at the fate of the movies Reynolds had to carry on his own. There's no glamour in film now. Even the 70's had their own type of glamour - that "edgy" chic. You see the likes of George Clooney hyped in that way at times, but it all feels tired. i think one of the reasons the Kardashians and the Housewives got a following was a desperation for any type of glamour, even if they wear Versace like Hefty bags. Bomer probably would have been more suited for the old Hollywood era. You can't see him fitting in to one of those Apatow-esque movies, just as Paul Rudd, no matter how much he tries to pretend he's a frat boy, never has.
February 15, 201214 yr Member No,and that's one reason I guess I like theatre more and more over movies. I think there still can be found some of that style of Hollywood charisma---just not ut of Hollywood (as much as I like some indie movies, etc, that's not what I mean).
February 15, 201214 yr Member It will be a big deal if he continues to be cast in leading or romantic roles. Up til now there is still no gay actor out in Hollywood that is cast in those kind of roles. Neil Patrick Harris is basically your non-threatening, non-sexual talk show guest, singing gay man who will one day be cast in a revival of Hollywood Squares. Ian McKellen is old and Magneto doesn't get to kiss the girl. Everyone thought Matthew Bomer was impossibly handsome last week. Let's see if people think this a month from now or a year from now. Can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly will. He's like Wentworth Miller, far more handsome than anyone has a right to be, whatever he's got going on in his personal life. I wonder if the fact that MB has an established family will help him. I'm not saying it should matter, but I wonder if it does matter.
February 15, 201214 yr Member I think it does matter--and will in this case. I also reiterate what I said about how now he has refound fame with his theatrical readings and singings and (from what I've heard) Broadway plans have played a part. I don't think Wentworth ever had that. The Broadway community (which is obviously very gay friendly but not nreally any more gay--just more open--than Hollywood) seems to open up a lot of actors. And if he's an out actor playing such a major gay role in such in The Normal Heart--and is openly gay which is almost unheard of in a major studio picture (maybe completely unheard of? This isn't Sean Penn, this isn't Tom Hanks) than that *is* pretty major.
February 16, 201214 yr Member Oh, I gave up on the film industry a long time ago. They can't make even decent (forget good) movies anymore (and no, that ain't just nostalgia talkin'). Bradley Cooper is gay? SAY WHAT???
February 20, 201214 yr Member Uh, who didnt know this lol. I knew he was gay when he showed up on SoapTalk with some heavy duty makeup on lol. Glad he made it official! Patiently waiting on Mark Collier lol. You and me both. Matt was only on AMC a few days but it was for a major story playing Bink's ex GF, Sarah's fiance and then he was on GL for 2 years as Ben Warren. Plus I consider any actor who spent one day or 40 years on a show a alum once they leave said show. Minor quibble, but Bomer actually played Ben Reade. Ben Warren was a completely different GL character, played by Hunt Block. Either way, open secret or not, good for him for coming out on his terms.
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