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12 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Is Nora still having her headaches?

They stopped a few weeks ago, maybe even months at this point. I think the regular chili dogs she has with Bo... played a part in this. Let's say they improved her circulation. 🤭 I'm glad you asked... because they kept repeating the headache line for weeks... it was going somewhere for sure. The writers must have changed their minds.

36 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Robin seems to relish going up against Susan Haskell, as they are both such forces. As she later described her scenes with Erika Slezak - being in "the arena."

I love this... Thank you for sharing!!! I am looking forward to their future interactions. So far only 2 scenes... and the chemistry is off the charts. It makes me want to watch the German episodes again, but sadly not being able to hear the original voices in English... sort of... kills the magic for me.

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Still enjoying your recaps and I hope to be back to 1991 soon!

Reading this, Maxim or anyone else, would you say they set Marty up to be heavily involved with Viki from the ties to lupus and Megan or not? Sometimes it seems they played up to it, other times not. Reading these recaps really makes me wish Marty had been further involved with raising hell for both Viki and Dorian.

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10 minutes ago, soapfave06 said:

Still enjoying your recaps and I hope to be back to 1991 soon!

Reading this, Maxim or anyone else, would you say they set Marty up to be heavily involved with Viki from the ties to lupus and Megan or not? Sometimes it seems they played up to it, other times not. Reading these recaps really makes me wish Marty had been further involved with raising hell for both Viki and Dorian.

I think they connected them right from the beginning - Marty's entrance into the show was through Viki and Megan. Viki helped Marty open up about her past and traumas early on. She has been motherly towards her ever since she lost her daughter, often mentioning Megan in attempt to calm Marty down. Recently, though... Marty has become more and more cruel to her. It seems the more Viki tries to help, the more defensive Marty gets. Marty reacts this way to anyone who tries to be kind to her. The first one that tried to "fix" her was Andrew - he got called a pedophile for it and she nearly destroyed his life. He could have been killed at that time. The last few months, Viki was the one trying to support her, checking in on her - she got called a Society Slut for it and publicly humiliated. So the pattern is very obvious at this point. You try to help her or love her - she bites you. HARD. And now, like proper masochists Andrew and Cassie have invited her into their home... 2 days later and she is already plotting the end of their marriage. Marty is like Kathy from East Of Eden - she's a very damaged person who ruins everything she touches. At least this has been her arc so far. Fans have told me that everything will change eventually, so I’ll be watching for that.

P.S. But here is how they were months and months ago, if you are interested. :)

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17 minutes ago, Maxim said:

I think they connected them right from the beginning - Marty's entrance into the show was through Viki and Megan. Viki helped Marty open up about her past and traumas early on. She has been motherly towards her ever since she lost her daughter, often mentioning Megan in attempt to calm Marty down. Recently, though... Marty has become more and more cruel to her. It seems the more Viki tries to help, the more defensive Marty gets. Marty reacts this way to anyone who tries to be kind to her. The first one that tried to "fix" her was Andrew - he got called a pedophile for it and she nearly destroyed his life. He could have been killed at that time. The last few months, Viki was the one trying to support her, checking in on her - she got called a Society Slut for it and publicly humiliated. So the pattern is very obvious at this point. You try to help her or love her - she bites you. HARD. And now, like proper masochists Andrew and Cassie have invited her into their home... 2 days later and she is already plotting the end of their marriage. Marty is like Kathy from East Of Eden - she's a very damaged person who ruins everything she touches. At least this has been her arc so far. Fans have told me that everything will change eventually, so I’ll be watching for that.

P.S. But here is how they were months and months ago, if you are interested. :)

I am not sure they maintain this longterm, I barely remember any Viki and Marty scenes in the 2000s and always thought of Larry as closer to Viki in the mid-90s I have seen. That scene is really great and shows Marty’s reluctance, also never knew Kiki was an addict on that!

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I am now at the beginning of December 1991 and I have to admit, I did not love the interrupted wedding as much as I thought I would. First, the Dorian/Cassie drama felt so contrived (maybe from the episode restoration editing) to include Dorian attending the wedding and I am not sure why, but it bugged me with everyone being rude to her. Cassie was just completely played as pathetic. Of course I have to adjust to this Sarah, as a big fan of the 80s Gordon sisters dynamics.

The editing of the actual show felt odd too, extremely odd choices (unless it is just me) even Alex locking Cassie in the room with her would have been better had we heard the lock clicking, the camera angles of Sarah turning, zooming in on Bo. However, Alex demanding Cassie sit, converse, be respectful and then punching her was fantastic. Again though, no one heard this door slamming, crying, yelling, nothing? It could have upped the stakes quite a bit.

Cassie later bursting into Megan’s uninvited to talk to Sarah-at this point she is driving me mad. I don’t hate the actress, it’s the writing.

The Max and Asa trial is a snooze fest for me but Blair and the aftermath of Cord being shot is back in play so I do have that to enjoy.

I miss the dynamics of Jason, Wanda and LeeAnn at the diner and it would be great to see more of Sheila (although Troy is a snooze) to balance out this other drama and rather small cast (alongside the recasts)

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11 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I was not expecting Andrew to have his hands at Marty's waist.

Malone clearly did have some attachment to that pairing which never quite gets used the way he may have wanted.

I've said this before, but I think Andrew and Marty was in many ways a replacement for Andrew and Megan in Malone's eyes. Marty and Andrew come closer to consummating things, but neither fully goes there. They did have chemistry right to the end of the show's run though.

The relatively rare Dorian/Marty scenes after this period always remind me that La Boulaie, the Cramer homestead, was Marty's family home in these years. I think Dorian bought it off her or her Aunt Kiki.

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It was wild to see Roger Gordon pop back up to visit Sarah, Megan and Viki, particularly in this transition period and with a mustache! That is a big what could have been-had they cast a better leading man to tempt Viki in the Megan era, although Maxim has me excited to see Sloan now.

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