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[Taoboi]

Oh, I fully expect it to keep going...just not about a bathtub though...if you catch my drift.

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[Cat]

Gotta agree with all of you, that was a great premiere for RHOSLC. The fact that Jen Shah is mo longer on the show has liberated the cast who, in previous seasons, were forced to centre their entire story around her -- while at the same time trying to distract from talking about her trial. It made for a schizophrenic, dissonant show. This premiere could finally discuss Jen at liberty (thanks, Monica), without taking away from the core of the show, which is now going to be these women's stories. Even Martyr Heather is moving onwards and upwards in her life. Even boohooing about her BFF ( @Taoboi we called it!), she seems hugely relieved that Jailbird isn't around to suck the oxygen out of the room.

Lisa Barlow remains as narcissistic as ever (cool to see her in work mode at Sundance), and her hubby is over it. I actively giggled when LB started sobbing about her son telling her that he wasn't like her. She simply cannot fathom anyone not being like her, or relating themselves to her.

Mary is a sight for sore eyes! Her puncturing the other women's made-for-TV fakery is very welcome on this show.

Meredith seems more upbeat, in control, energized, and out of her valium haze.

Little Girl is still the same. It's weird how she hasn't really evolved since S1.

[Liberty City]

The premiere was meh. And Mary can GTFO. Annoyed she's back.

[Gray Bunny]

I think Bathtub Gate (LOL) will be the catalyst to keep a feud going this season between Meredith and Whitney; meaning Meredith has put a target on Little Girl's back and is just waiting for her to slip up in the proverbial tub again. 

[Soaplovers]

Salt lake city:

Too much group, not enough individual vignettes except Lisa Barlow.

Does this mean the women have such empty lives it isn't worth showing them in their day to day life?

I would have preferred newbie Monica be introduced on her own..seeing her life before introducing her to the group.  Right now..I don't care nothing about her.

Whitney (little girl) has been coached by Candiace... her shade game has improved a bit.

Meredith holds grudges so this bathtub thing will drag out sadly.

[Cat]

Why is it that RHOA reunions are often better than the seasons themselves? The cast feels more interactive and coherent in real time. Like, obviously Kenya despises Marlo, and Kandi has fallen out with both Drew and Sheree. But sometimes the way they interact... there is a long-time understanding there. These women know each other very well, and we get throw-backs to Marc Daly and Marlo tried to sidle up to him. Or we get the acknowledgement that Drew is not honest about herself on camera and everybody knows it. 

Speaking of Marc... it is crazy how that divorce is not final and he is still suing Kenya for every little thing he can think of. I cannot get over how much he hates Kenya. It is approaching Jason Hoppy-hates-Bethenny levels.

Sheree should never have touched her proud, distinctive nose. OTOH, she made an attempt to come and play this reunion. The She News thing is so budget-word-doc-on-Kairo's-14-year-old-laptop... but it is so her. I cackled.

Neither Monyetta nor Courtney do anything for me.

[Cat]

1. I don't count the Hamptons as it feels like an extension of NYC. I actually loved that the cast went to Anguilla, it reminded me of the glorious proper vacations the RHs used to have before they went budget and settled on Miami or San Diego.

However, I get your point about Where is NYC? I feel like a lot of scenes have occurred either in apartments or in places without much NY character. The exception was Jenna walking her brother around Rockefeller Center which looked gorgeous.

 

2. It was mini-pile-up. Not a full take-down but just letting Jenna know that they can see through some of her excuses.

I can see both sides -- if I had a chance to take business class and stay at the Four Seasons? I'd take it! An anxious control freak like Jenna wants mastery of her surroundings first. At the same time, she got a lot of outs in her contract (not having to show her GF or her child, for example), and the other women are clearly resentful about that and want to knock her off her pedestal a little. Jenna does have physical issues that she feels she must manage but I agree also that she uses them to get sympathy, favors, etc., too.

 

3. I loved all those individual vignettes, and shout-out to Brynn's ex-fiancé Gideon last week who seemed totally in love with her. All those individual scenes rounded out the character of these women individually. I'm starting to think that Jessel & Parvitt actually work as a couple! LOL. Jessel and her mom also was a great scene where she revealed her IVF trauma.

 

I love Ubah too and feel like she brings a certain element of joy to the proceedings. I worry that she's not as embedded as much in the drama as others and that will mean one-season wonder.

Erin is a walking 'force multiplier' as Carlos King likes to call them -- someone who will always look for drama with someone.

I'm still not feeling Sai. I'm sorry, I'm just not.

A rumor doing that rounds that sent cold chills down my spine: Leah McSweeney has apparently (in the mind of someone on Twitter X whateveritscalled) been asked to join the next season of the RHONY reboot. 

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RHOBH AmsterDAMN episode with Barbies

 

Edited September 7, 2023 by Cat

[Cheap21]

We dont want her. Id rather have LuAnn and/or Sonja make some cameos and film with Jenna

[Gray Bunny]

All the more reason why I'm sitting Nu-RHONY out. 

OC's resurgence is proof you can retool, tweak, and bring back faves and keep the long-running casts alive. They panicked and caved with OG RHONY.  I hope they go the OC route with next season's Atlanta and eventually Jersey. 

[Cheap21]

Whats the OC route bc all they did this season is get rid of 2 housewives and replaced them with 2 more, 1 new and 1 old. I feel like ATL has been doing that for years now

[Liberty City]

I'm so thankful it wasn't Miami. I'm over Miami. The last good NYC cast trip was Tequila, Mexico.

No to the racist. Never to her.

Nah. I liked her the first season but not the second. I'd rather see Eboni Williams make a return; I think she'd gel well with the current ladies.

[Cat]

We really don't! I'm hoping this is unsubstantiated rumor. I've been enjoying how light and uncomplicated the show's first season has been. And I don't want that rageful, entitled narcissist to stomp in (with her scrawny ass hanging out of a g-string) throwing toddler tantrums.

Retool vs completely Reboot. Would you do a complete revamp?

There is also the RHONY S5 option: fire 50% of the cast, hire a new 50%. Personally I liked it, but it all depends on cast chemistry. Currently ATL is half OG, half relative newbies, but that mix isn't gelling.

I never want to see Miami on OG RHONY again! Terribly dull episodes. I only want to see it on RHOMiami where it has been lovingly showcased in all its glory.

I always wanted Eboni for the reboot rather than Leah, but im.not sure how she would fit with this group of (largely) millennials who can't get over how achingly trendy (they think) they are. She's a Gen X newsy broadcaster who would fit perfectly with The View. 

[Liberty City]

Miami should never be done again, never watched Miami as a franchise; it never appealed to me.

Williams would be perfect for the reboot. But I am pretty sure she's done with the Housewives franchise.

[Liberty City]

RHONYC: That "alternate universe" flashback was hilarious. +10 for the producers for that. Haha. These ladies are golden, but Jessel can GO!

[Cheap21]

Courtney is evil and Drew would have been justified in pulling a Porsha on her. Bravo was smart to have them on seperate couches