May 23, 200916 yr Member I have really liked Engen's Adam, but I'm going to be over it in a flash. Basically the second nu-Adam walks out. Even if you ignore all the hype, it seems clear that Engen and the show were not happy with each other -- for whatever reason. So, if this is a healthy parting of the ways, then I'm actually going to assume that a "better energy" will lead to a better on-screen product. Same thing with me. If Engen was really the way they are reporting it, I'll be okay with Muhney. But was Lamb a good guy? Several folks have said he was snarky? Can you imagine some of his Lamb-like characteristics working for Adam? Or are the characters, in your mind, too different? A good guy? No, not so much. He had a good soul, but was always snarky and sarcastic. He was the character you love to hate. So I guess, in a way, he will be an okay Adam.
May 23, 200916 yr Member MM is quite a talent but I don't think he's as inherently sympathetic on-screen as Engen He's taller. A lotta Engen sympathy was because he's tiny like Wall-E.
May 23, 200916 yr Author Member I always thought whenever they gave Engen a sarcastic or ironic line to recite, it just fell flat. Like in the scenes where he's telling Victor how he should send him back to prison or whatever. As I said before, his performance was so one-note to me. So flat, other than his good Midwestern boy personality, I wondered what people saw in him. One of the FEW positive things about him and Vail was that even though they're pretty crappy actors, they had a natural chemistry when together. I wonder if Vail will have any spark with Muhney, but it's not likely I guess. Time to either get rid of her, or recast. If Y&R wants to do a stunt for Emmy attention next year, blow some s-it up and kill off all the useless characters.
May 23, 200916 yr Author Member A lotta Engen sympathy was because he's tiny like Wall-E. A very hairy Wall-E!
May 23, 200916 yr Member I always thought whenever they gave Engen a sarcastic or ironic line to recite, it just fell flat. Sometimes it worked & sometimes it didn't. His sarcasm worked with AH's Victoria & Nick but fell flat with Victor, Paul & Nikki & he really struggled with emotional scenes, kid couldn't cry to save his life. A very hairy Wall-E! :lol: Hair-E!
May 23, 200916 yr Member Sometimes it worked & sometimes it didn't. His sarcasm worked with AH's Victoria & Nick but fell flat with Victor, Paul & Nikki & he really struggled with emotional scenes, kid couldn't cry to save his life. Remember the scene in prison where Victor was supposed to be putting the fear of God into Adam, and Engen just sat there with an uncomfortable look on his face as if he was about to fill his pants with days of constipation and burst into laughter at the same time? I've never seen a Y&R actor look so awkward in my life!
May 23, 200916 yr Member Remember the scene in prison where Victor was supposed to be putting the fear of God into Adam, and Engen just sat there with an uncomfortable look on his face as if he was about to fill his pants with days of constipation and burst into laughter at the same time? I've never seen a Y&R actor look so awkward in my life! I guess the tide has turned for CE . I'll admit it...Muhney is so grateful for the gig on his site...I'm really eager to see what he brings to it.
May 23, 200916 yr Author Member ^God, he couldn't cry to save his f-cking life! So glad he quit. That scene was embarrassing.
May 23, 200916 yr Member I've found the constipation/laughter clip! (Skip to 6:10) THANK YOU! I can't say I really noticed that at the time. That scene stands out very well in my memory, and I definitely remember him covering his face with his hands. But I did not connect with how lame his reaction was. See, in a scene like that, all I remember is Braeden. Braeden COMMANDS attention. And, watching it now, I see how much he gave Engen to work with...and how little Engen was able to accomplish with it. This will be a good switch (Muhney) for the show, I think. ETA: Maybe Engen's quitting really reflects his realization about how unsuited he was for this line of work. I think he aspires to be a singer. Maybe that's a better direction for him. For me, it teaches a real lesson, too.... Edited May 23, 200916 yr by MarkH
May 23, 200916 yr Member One of the FEW positive things about him and Vail was that even though they're pretty crappy actors, they had a natural chemistry when together. I wonder if Vail will have any spark with Muhney, but it's not likely I guess. Time to either get rid of her, or recast. Oh please. You can't make a judgment on their chemistry if they haven't even shared a scene yet.
May 23, 200916 yr Author Member LOL, Victor must have said his trademake, "You got that!" a million times in that clip alone!
May 23, 200916 yr Member Oh please. You can't make a judgment on their chemistry if they haven't even shared a scene yet. I liked Vail with Engen. I hope she and Muhney can do it too. Unfortunately, we don't know where the story will be in June. Will Heather be onto him by then?
May 23, 200916 yr Author Member Oh please. You can't make a judgment on their chemistry if they haven't even shared a scene yet. Yes, but one of the FEW people both actors had any chemistry with was each other. I've yet to find anyone else Vail shares chemistry with. They flirted with something between her and Daniel, and she had NO chemistry with Graz, and has none with Rikaart either. I'm not optimistic about her chances with Muhney. Personally, I think Muhney would look hot with Michelle Stafford, even though she looks her age with Morrow. Edited May 23, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner
May 23, 200916 yr Member Yes, but one of the FEW people both actors had any chemistry with was each other. I've yet to find anyone else Vail shares chemistry with. They flirted with something between her and Daniel, and she had NO chemistry with Graz, and has none with Rikaart either. I'm not optimistic about her chances with Muhney. Personally, I think Muhney would look how with Michelle Stafford. You forgot Cane. We'll see - is all I've got to say. Yeah, they still do have that territory with Phyllis to explore, but she'll be busy with something else.
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