Please, spare us, you were the no. 1 Hogan anti-fan until this very post. Why the sudden change? He lost 1 million of DOOL viewers.

Lol...

So do you think Hogan will do decent at Y&R?

I hope so but I'm not exactly a big insider or follower of the writers.

At this point I miss LML. I know people hate her or w/e but Y&R at least had some type of beat going on. Now I just look at the show and get bored real quick and change the channel. Cane and Lily isn't even that good anymore to me.

You're right about Bloom. She doesn't get nearly the criticism that Frons at ABC gets, and she's responsible in large measure for the pitiful state of the CBS daypart. In the day when Lucy Johnson was in charge of the CBS daypart, she took a hands off approach, if she trusted the writer(s) heading her network's soaps. Bill Bell often commented on this, and he was grateful not to have network suits butting into the day-to-day. Barbara Bloom's approach is just the opposite. She micro-manages everything, or tries to. Her biggest mistake, however, is bringing her friend Lynn Marie Latham to Y&R. Bloom never understood Y&R appeal. She never understood what a different soap it was from all the rest. And because she didn't, she and Latham "overhauled" a show that didn't need overhauling. Tweaking a bit, perhaps. But gutting a show creatively like was done to Y&R, I think, is one of the biggest blunders in the history of daytime programming. Consider all the talent that is no longer at Y&R: ED SCOTT, KATHRYN FOSTER, NOEL MAXUM, KAY ALDEN, JACK SMITH, JIM HOUGHTON, SALLY SUSSMAN, JANICE FERRI ESSER, JOSHUA MCCAFFREY, REX M. BEST, MICHAEL MINNIS, SARA BIBEL, TRENT JONES, JERRY BIRN. These people were the heart and soul of Y&R for many, many years. All are gone now, probably never to return. As hard as Maria Bell may be trying to return the show to its former roots, she can't do it without the people who made Y&R the success it was (along with the late great Bill Bell, of course). For that reason alone, Bloom should be axed now, especially since her blunder has impacted the entire CBS soap lineup. As Y&R goes, so goes the lineup. I'm beginning to think the show will never recover, even if they brought back the old team that made the show so poupular.

I agree and I don't think any of them will be asked back (not that they'd want to to return). I think Y&R's become one of those soaps that will go through HW after HW and EP after EP, in the vein of DAYS, P&G soaps, and ABC soaps. And we have Bloom and Sony to thank for all of that.

What I want to know is, how did Bloom and CBS get such a tight grip on Y&R? The show isn't owned by CBS and Sony was content with the way things were for years...

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The show is beyond mind-numbing. The pairings don't work. There are so few characters to care about any longer. Everyone "sounds" the same. The soap is generic. It's lost its voice. It's lost its soul. It's lost its way. Just like the other CBS soaps. And soaps in general.

I agree, the damage is already done. Even if the show magically gets better tomorrow, the ratings aren't going to improve. The days of Y&R getting 4's are over. Too many people have left too fast. The show isn't going to regain any of those lost viewers.

Y&R has dropped rather rapidly, but I don't think all is lost yet for the show. It may be able to rebound if the damage is repaired quickly. The next few weeks should be very telling, but I am going to remain optimistic.

Y&R has dropped like a rock, but it is still lapping every other soap, including the overrated one. It still has more than 1 million more viewers than its closest competitor and it has almost 2 million more than General Hospital. It has more than 2 million more viewers than the other ABC soaps.

It is dropping, but perhaps its fall to the lowly ranks of other daytime dramas was just delayed. I don't think HS can bring it back up to where it was because I think the days of the 4s and above are over. The 3s will soon be a distant memory.