I love the City--I'm so glad I kept the final three months on VHS (Need to digitize those soon). It took a while to find its footing (having a copycat serial killer story from the superior Loving one that just had aired was a particularly bad move) but once Sydney/Morgan Fairchild was out and Tracy was in it came into its own--its last 6 months I thought it was the best ABC soap on air, and it was at that time the only ABC soap whose ratings were actually *climbing*--though it was too late to save it. Really strong writing and a brilliant way of gettign a sense of families and community into a new "friends" based soap.

I'm a big Loving fan for all its flaws and it is one of the few soaps ABC could show start to end--but has no intention of I guess... I believe they own the majorityof it even though both were Dramatic Creations.

The only problem with the City, Eric... as I remember... is that it kicked off the ABC line-up here on the East Coast.

It SOOOOOO should have been on after GH. When the kids are home from school. Clearly, it was a soap geared towards younger people (living on your own for the first time in NYC? COME ON!!!!) Why they thought it should kick off their line-up in the EARLY afternoon always baffled me.

And everybody forgets THEY did the first transgender story.

They should get rid of the primetime soaps like One Tree Hill, 90210, Melrose Place (except for Dallas), The OC....and put on shows of Loving/The City and Santa Barbara

The only problem with the City, Eric... as I remember... is that it kicked off the ABC line-up here on the East Coast.

It SOOOOOO should have been on after GH. When the kids are home from school. Clearly, it was a soap geared towards younger people (living on your own for the first time in NYC? COME ON!!!!) Why they thought it should kick off their line-up in the EARLY afternoon always baffled me.

And everybody forgets THEY did the first transgender story.

That was the only timeslot the affiliates would give ABC trust me they knew it was a shitty timeslot (it had largely been responsible for Loving's lack of success too)

Most ABC affiliates usually give the timeslot following GH to syndicated or news programming. The only real timeslot for soaps like Ryan's Hope, Loving, and The City was that crappy 12:30 slot, where those shows would usually compete with the first half of Y&R in many markets.

Oh, I completely understand WHY it was on at that time.

I just never understood why they thought changing Loving to the City would work in that time slot.

You'd think somebody would have questioned the logic of kicking off their line-up with a soap so aimed at a young demo at 12:30.

Oh, I completely understand WHY it was on at that time.

I just never understood why they thought changing Loving to the City would work in that time slot.

You'd think somebody would have questioned the logic of kicking off their line-up with a soap so aimed at a young demo at 12:30.

I agree, I thought it was a bad idea on ABC's part to launch Loving and then Port Charles in that same timeslot. They knew 12:30 AM wasn't their strongest point, yet they continued to push it. I think they finally got a clue when Port Charles was canceled though.

PC - another show that would have succeeded with a younger audience. Can you imagine 14 year olds rushing home from school to watch Caleb the vampire rock out? I know when I was that age, I would have!

I don't have a business degree, and even I don't understand the mentality. If you know what time-slot your soap is fitting into, you work with the audience watching at that time.

Ah well... back to the subject at hand - I'm sure nobody wants to pay all of those City actors residuals. And the writers and directors. Not to mention the music. That's always been the SB (Santa Barbara) problem - the background music.

Edited February 24, 200817 yr by brimike

Hey! I grew up on Beverly Hills 90210 and Melrose Place, so why are you hating? I'm just kidding with you, ATS!

Haha, well I don't mean to hate on them, I just think that they don't belong on Soapnet, that's all. I don't like seeing actual soaps sacrificed for primetime dramas. But I would much rather see MP and 90210 on there than the shows I mentioned before.

We really need a Soapnet Classics (and I can't even get Soapnet here so:( )_

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Soapnet has been a disappointment with it not showing soap operas from the past and showing programming like One Tree Hill, the OC, and BH 90210 instead. Really programming like this belongs on another cable channel. And what is up with showing these lame Sunday night movies? Who at Soapnet thinks there is an audience for these bottom of the barrel movies?

The thing I don't get is that the Loving Murders and The entire run of The City is perfect for what SoapNet does. It is also very much in keeping with Frons style and creative directions.

I have been waiting for years for SoapNet to do a Daytime to Remember type thing again, with classic storylines. AMC Who killed Will? Liza/Greg/Jenny? Early Angie/Jessie? Kendall comes to Pine Valley for revenge?

OLTL- The Marty rape storyline. Viki's alters. Tina/Cord. Jake/Megan. Karen Wolek.

GH- Pretty much all of Labine. Jagger/Karen/Brenda/Jason. Anna/Robert vs Faison. Frisco and Felicia.

I would watch this often. All I'm asking is a few less showings of OTH, Melrose, 90210, and the soaps themselves, and add in some classics. A summer storyline from each show would rock, and now they could get Y&R and DAYS as well. A winner. Now I hardly watch Soapnet at all, except to catch an episode my DVR messed up. Now that I have DVR< Soapnet should give me something the networks won't. Classics.

Exactly--throw us a scrap here guys--if you just had a weekly weekend "Daytime to Remember" show with special classic eps--how hard would that be??

Haha, well I don't mean to hate on them, I just think that they don't belong on Soapnet, that's all. I don't like seeing actual soaps sacrificed for primetime dramas. But I would much rather see MP and 90210 on there than the shows I mentioned before.

90210 and MP were better than The City, simply put. Now if it were 80s and 90s GH/OLTL/AMC or something like that, yeah, I would give up 90210 and MP. But for The City? No freaking way!

Good question.

I would love to watch it. I would like to see Angie, Jacob and Frankie

I love that 90210 is on SN. I used to watch it every summer on FX when I was out of school, but they stopped showing it.

I'm still holding out hope that they bring back the R&R episodes of GH.