Members Ryan Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 Thanks Greg. Rachel Maddow's show is pretty good. She has people on her show that regularly debate her on issues (which I think makes better TV instead of guests that rarely disagree). She also has Pat Buchanan on her show regularly. Here's an article on her show: Odd couple: Rachel Maddow and Pat Buchanan By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer Sun Oct 5, 12:32 PM ET At 19, Rachel Maddow shared a house with friends in Philadelphia and wasn't paying much attention to the 1992 Republican National Convention on television until Pat Buchanan took to the podium. She was transfixed. Buchanan's combative conservative speech, which denounced gay rights, was a milestone for people on two sides of a political divide. Either a call to arms or intolerant, depending on your point of view, it couldn't be ignored. "Pat's culture war speech at the Republican convention hit me right between the eyes," said Maddow, MSNBC's new star and a lesbian. "He was, without euphemism, declaring that my own country was at war with me. I get it intellectually and strategically now, but at 19, I only got it emotionally." So there's a certain irony that Maddow and Buchanan have a prime-time date many nights now on television. "It's Pat" is a semi-regular feature on "The Rachel Maddow Show," a program that has surprised even the people who put it on with its success after only a month on the air. Maddow is a regular on the liberal "Air America" radio network and had appeared frequently on MSNBC, particular on Keith Olbermann's "Countdown." She was given the 9 p.m. EST slot when network executives judged Dan Abrams' show a failure. Its second week on the air, Maddow's audience was bigger than CNN's "Larry King Live." King won the third week and the two are settling into what promises to be a competitive battle behind Fox News Channel's dominant "Hannity & Colmes." During the week of Sept. 22, Fox's show averaged 3.2 million, CNN had 2.1 million and Maddow was at 1.7 million. She has more than doubled the audience that MSNBC had been getting in the time slot, according to Nielsen Media Research, and is keeping much of the audience that watches Olbermann. Naysayers told MSNBC chief executive Phil Griffin that Maddow would be too much like Olbermann, and there was a risk in turning his prime-time lineup completely over to one political point of view. Instead, Maddow is something of a happy warrior compared to Olbermann's increasingly dark prince. The Rhodes Scholar can lap almost anyone intellectually without making you hate her for doing it. "She's likeable," Griffin said. "She smiles, she has fun. She's interesting." If Olbermann's show has a drumbeat that drives it, Maddow's "got a little bit of a symphony," he said. She also doesn't back down from a fight. Olbermann's "Countdown" is well-written and meticulous, but he relies on guests who rarely disagree with him. Maddow frequently brings on guests to argue with her, none more so than Buchanan. He can exasperate her, and vice versa. To date, it hasn't become nasty. To a certain extent, Maddow credits Buchanan with giving her television career a push. A few years ago when Buchanan hosted a show at MSNBC, he remembered her and sought her out for work. "I like debating things with Pat," Maddow said. "He's funny and quick and intellectually coherent, even when his views are totally toxic." Thinking back to the culture war speech, Maddow sees how one of Buchanan's contribution to Nixon-era politics was the idea of "positive polarization," or dividing the country against itself and siding politically with the bigger half. Buchanan, by e-mail, said that "Rachel and I get along fine," but didn't elaborate since he prefers not to participate in feature stories about MSNBC shows. He's a paid MSNBC contributor, but the cable network has become particularly noxious to Republicans, mostly because of Olbermann. Griffin said he liked how Maddow and Buchanan played off each other during MSNBC's primary coverage in the spring. "They're 180 degrees apart but they like each other," he said. Maddow is still juggling several ideas around, even with the fast start. "Every segment, every minute of the show is still a work in progress," she said. "We're still trying to figure out what works best on air, what we're capable of producing well, what's fun. I expect that if we're lucky enough to still be on the air in a year, the show will look very different than it does now." Her show completes the transformation of MSNBC, in prime-time, into a politically liberal network ("Countdown" and "The Rachel Maddow Show" repeat in another two-hour block at 10 p.m. EST). That has caused some consternation at NBC News, where some feel that MSNBC has damaged the network's reputation for impartiality. NBC was targeted for angry chants at the GOP convention, and John McCain's campaign pointedly snubbed Brian Williams in giving Sarah Palin interviews to Charles Gibson of ABC and Katie Couric of CBS. Griffin feels the ratings prove that on cable, shows with a strong point of view have the best chance of success. A board hanging in Maddow's NBC office is filled with scribbles, mostly indecipherable, of potential topics for her shows. It's still so new that the nameplate outside is blank. "I still haven't really figured out when I'm supposed to be where, and how to make sure there's time in every day to do things like eat and sleep and read my e-mail," she said. 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Members MoTheGreat Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 Do any of Ya'll visit Barack Youtube page? I love to go to his page. Now if Barack can do one with Sarah Plain & the Witchdoctor or the witchpreach or whatever he is. KEATING ECONOMICS: John McCain & The Making of a Financial Crisis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g72BuIvMbWY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg's GL Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 Thanks for the info Ryan. Sounds good. I caught a little of her and Pat Buchanan after the VP debates last week and they were very interesting to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg's GL Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 For those of you that may not know, Lee County is in SW Florida and has long been a Republican stronghold in the state. This is where we just came from on our vacation. I was surprised to see several billboards on I-75 with the word "McSame" crossed out. Of all the places in Florida for a billboard like this to be in the heart of Republican country isn't a bad sign. I guess we won't hear anything about the issues from McSame/Plain until after the election is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 Oy vey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UCLAN Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 This is so disturbing. People really still believe that stuff. I must tell you all it took me a whole day to recover from yesterdays posting. I too cannot believe that Casey would condone the use of a racial slur against an entire nation because of the past acts of a few. But it's not too far fetched if people can condone the Ayers smear knowing the full story. For those of us old enough to have lived during the 60s and 70s, our viewpoint is a little different. I didn't consider those groups domestic terrorist, subversive yes. And there were many groups that spoke out forcefully against the government and the Vietnam war in those days. But that is neither here nor there. People grow and their belief system often grows with them. However some people's belief system doesn't change. Look at McCain, I mean really look at what he has stood for during his 26 years in congress. That Rolling stone article says it all. I really suggest that you all read it. I am glad to see it mentioned here as well as on other sites that I visit. McCain is not country first. He is McCain first. And this strategy that he is using now is just the old McCain. Get somebody else to do your dirty work (Palin) so that you can remain above the fray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama Obama: McCain tries to turn attention from economy By MIKE BAKER, Associated Press Writer 31 minutes ago Barack Obama said Monday that John McCain is trying to shift attention from the troubled economy because the issue is bad for the Republican presidential nominee's campaign. The Democratic presidential candidate also implored federal officials to take swift action as Wall Street recorded another record one-day decline amid a global sell-off of stocks. Obama told reporters in Asheville, N.C., that he was surprised his Republican rival's campaign would signal an effort to avoid talking about the financial turmoil because McCain advisers fear it could cause him to lose the election. "I've got news for the McCain campaign: The American people are losing right now," he said. "They're losing their jobs. They're losing their health care. They're losing their homes. They're losing their savings. I cannot imagine anything more important to talk about." An aide to McCain recently said the GOP campaign would like to shift the presidential race's focus away from the economy, which has been a better issue for Democrats than Republicans. Since then, McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, has been questioning Obama's character based on his association with an incendiary pastor and a 1960s radical turned college professor. Obama said he would keep talking about the economy and didn't answer questions about the associations McCain's campaign has questioned. "The notion that we would want to brush that aside and engage in the usual political shenanigans and smear tactics that have come to characterize too many political campaigns is not what the American people are looking for," he said before stopping at a local barbecue joint for ribs and corn pudding. He's been in Asheville since Saturday preparing for Tuesday night's debate in neighboring Tennessee. McCain continues to discuss economic conditions, but Obama says he needs to offer better and more specific remedies. Obama renewed his call for extending unemployment insurance and for enacting a second stimulus package that would include tax cuts for millions of Americans. Congress has rejected those proposals in recent months. He also urged Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke to move swiftly to restore confidence in the economy, noting that U.S. struggles were spreading across the globe. He said there was a great danger of the credit markets locking up — the underlying problem that led Congress to pass a $700 billion relief package last week. Noting sharp drops in financial markets around the world, Obama said, "It is a reminder that the rescue package that was passed last week is not the end. It's just the beginning." Obama and McCain voted for the measure in the Senate, hoping it would enable the government to buy deeply devalued mortgage-backed securities to help banks find money to make loans. Palin also addressed Monday's market slide at a fundraiser in Naples, Fla. "We need to cut taxes for businesses so they can hire more people -- that's how jobs are created. The other side just doesn't seem to understand that, especially in these times of economic woes," Palin said. "And today is not a good day. If you turn on the news tonight when you get home, you're gonna see that, ya, this is another woeful day in the market." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jess Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 McCain has told the American public outright lies in his campaign. He has run ads that are both totally false or misleading in an effort to dupe the public. One has to wonder if that is the respect he will have for American taxpayers if he is elected. Will he elect to lie to Americans rather than to convince us of an idea's merit. I think his willingness to lie to voters says a great deal about his character. By the way, back on Ayers. Ayers did not host an event for Obama at Ayers' house. The event was for a woman running for Congress. She introduced Obama at the event and said she was endorsing his bid to replace her. In fact, the event was not for Obama, it was for the other candidate's run for Congress. In fact, she was elected to the seat and later Obama ran against her and lost. I'm glad Obama is pushing back with the Keating Five ad. It's truthful at least. I also think that if McCain/Palin want to discuss church affiliations, than Palin's preacher remarks are fair game. Also, the fact that McCain does not worship is fair game. I would hope campaigns would not turn to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 Reuters Blogs Tales from the Trail Tracking the 2008 U.S. campaign October 6th, 2008 Maverick family to McCain: No way are you one of us! Posted by: Tim Gaynor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnCCorinthos4ever Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 We get The Daily Show and The Colbert Report on cable here in Australia and I will be watching. I am also going to watch the debate. Ahh Vacation is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 6, 2008 Members Share Posted October 6, 2008 Here's a story about Fox News where no one can brush it pff as something a commentor said or did: Fox News: Barney Frank Escaped Blame for Fannie Mae's Problems Because He Is Gay David Fiderer Posted October 6, 2008 | 04:15 PM (EST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Southofnowhere Posted October 7, 2008 Members Share Posted October 7, 2008 Do the Repubs blame the gays for EVERYTHING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kay Posted October 7, 2008 Members Share Posted October 7, 2008 When they're not blaming the gays, they're blaming the blacks, the hispanics, the democrats. Anybody in sight that's not a republican, lily white and filthy rich. It's pathetic. And I just love how the best McCain can come up with in regards to the economy is tax cuts and his belief that the American worker is resilient and hard-working and blah blah blah. So stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnCCorinthos4ever Posted October 7, 2008 Members Share Posted October 7, 2008 From the sounds of things they like to blame everyone but themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 7, 2008 Members Share Posted October 7, 2008 McCain's brother says N. Va. 'Communist country' By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER – 1 day ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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