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Barack Obama Elected President!

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This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

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Some states have several congressional districts..especially those that are highly populated. The amount of Reps sent to the House from your state is based solely on the population.

Some states just have too many Reps to cover in the media.

We only have 4 :P

Where are you getting this imformation? Republicans not voting for the bill because of Nancy?

On CNN, they had a group of Republicans being interviewed right after the vote and they all indicated she was the reason the vote didn't work. Some guy from Virginia held up a copy of Pelosi's speech and said that that was the reason the vote didn't go through.

Uh...how about holding up a copy of the bill?

Also, does anybody know where to find who voted how for the bill today?

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And apparently people are now beating the drum calling for Palin to step down.

Lol it never ends.

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We only have 4 :P

On CNN, they had a group of Republicans being interviewed right after the vote and they all indicated she was the reason the vote didn't work. Some guy from Virginia held up a copy of Pelosi's speech and said that that was the reason the vote didn't go through.

Uh...how about holding up a copy of the bill?

Did they let it be known what she did that upset them so much?

And apparently people are now beating the drum calling for Palin to step down.

Lol it never ends.

Reminds me of before the RNC...she gave a good speech and that all quieted down. It didn't rattle her cage then, and it wont now.

She will do fine during the debate, and this will all fade away again..

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Did they let it be known what she did that upset them so much?

I'm not really sure, other than she was "too partisan."

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Did you hear that Obama didn't even vote?

I don't want to hear his imput any further if he is not even going to vote on the matter...

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Did you hear that Obama didn't even vote?

I don't want to hear his imput any further if he is not even going to vote on the matter...

....The house voted today..not the senate.

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Blaming it on Pelosi is an excuse. If they decided they would rather the economy tank as a partisan temper tantrum, then shame on them. Pelosi should not have said what she did, but any Republican who said that is why the vote went down is making up an excuse for his failure to line up Republican votes. Hell, it was the president's bill. Do they not trust their president? If they don't trust their president then they are saying much more about their opinion of him then anything Pelosi said.

The Republicans will be blamed for this because their president is in the White House. Now that they have gotten their no vote, they had better find some way to get something done within about 24 hours.

Did you get to hear what she said? I first heard the story while in the car. They didn't give the specifics on the news radio stations (I switched between two)....just that some Republicans blamed her. I saw the clip of the statement that the news anchor said caused the problem on CNN. I didn't see the need for her saying what she did regardless of whatever else may have been said by others. You have to know when to hold your tongue.....but I still don't see someone honestly using that as an excuse.

Reps may be hesitant because their constituents have expressed opposition but then they should say that and they should also explain whether those constituents are being made aware of the ramifications as well. I think that it's wrong to do nothing on the basis of constituents' displeasure when there is so much at stake. I just wonder if the Reps doing this are in the habit of always listening and going along with their constituents.

The little party revolt is in part due to the Republican brand. I heard that one Republican up for re-election was being sued by Democrats who want him to list himself as a Republican because he's listing himself as a (redundant) member of the GOP Party. Apparently some voters don't know that the GOP is the Republican party.

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Sorry I worded that wrong...

He is not going to vote..on Wednesday...

Obama had planned to return to Washington for a Senate vote on the measure, expected on Wednesday. But that schedule is now uncertain.

UPDATE: Obama spokesman Bill Burton released a statement on the bailout vote this afternoon. “This is a moment of national crisis, and today’s inaction in Congress as well as the angry and hyper-partisan statement released by the McCain campaign are exactly why the American people are disgusted with Washington,” he said, “Now is the time for Democrats and Republicans to join together and act in a way that prevents an economic catastrophe. Every American should be outraged that an era of greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street and Washington has led us to this point, but now that we are here, the stability of our entire economy depends on us taking immediate action to ease this crisis.”

WSJ

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Sorry I worded that wrong...

He is not going to vote..on Wednesday...

Is this Senate still going to vote? Why would they since the House didn't pass it?

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I'm interested to see the polls that will be released tonight...showing the -over the weekend- numbers and the first post-debate polls..

What do you guys think they will show? Obama's lead furthering or lessening?

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....The house voted today..not the senate.

What's funny is that I read earlier that Obama was going to vote and McCain was unsure.

Anyway it does not matter at this point unless the House works out their differences since if they're not going to pass it then the Senate vote is useless.

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Is this Senate still going to vote? Why would they since the House didn't pass it?

Yeah, they will still vote. (in the Senate)

The bill will have to be reintroduced in the House...probably with differing wordage...whatever the Reps are rejecting..

My question is why are Republicans being turned into scapegoats if the Dems have the majority? Why are they wussy-footing around the Repubs? If they feel this is a good bill, then just pass the darn thing!

IMO, They are afraid that McCain and the Republicans will have the upper hand for rejecting a bill that is not supported by most of the public...

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Yeah, they will still vote. (in the Senate)

The bill will have to be reintroduced in the House...probably with differing wordage...whatever the Reps are rejecting..

But then wouldn't the Senate have to re-vote on the changes?

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But then wouldn't the Senate have to re-vote on the changes?

Yep..

The vote Wednesday for the re-worked initial bill ..will be used as a "feeler" for what the Senate wants to do...Even though the House will have to re-vote on a re-worked bill later..The House still has time to re-work the bill before the Senate vote on Wednesday...

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