You have heard nothing of the youth vote, the Latino vote, Catholic, Jewish vote and the number of newly registered Democratic voters.

All you hear about is the white, working class vote, the male vote and the white female vote.

What's sad to me is when they're harping on the white blue collar worker they always have to throw in uneducated and then there's this pause where you know what they really want to say.....

I am a sick person because when I read this it made be lol:

Begala says that Obama should harp on "honor" constantly, ruthlessly, because that will cause McCain to finally snap and start murdering people.

The Chris Matthews summary is kind of funny and he thinks so little of CM's show. He said he's running for office in Pennsylvannia which I didn't know.

Isn't it the height of wackadoodlery that McCain continues to stipulate in public that he went negative because Obama refused to go along with his town hall meetings? Look: I don't think McCain was necessarily being insincere or attempting some trickery when he proposed those things, okay. And maybe the Obama campaign would have fared just fined by going along with them. But DEAR SWEET JEEBUS: McCain's inability to LET IT GO and MOVE ON is really, really disturbing! If this is how he's going to govern - fueled by penny-ante grudges that are blown into wide declarations of juvenile vindictiveness - then I don't want him to have the nuclear football.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/14...e-step-too-far/

Rove: McCain attacks have gone “one step too far”

What's sad to me is when they're harping on the white blue collar worker they always have to throw in uneducated and then there's this pause where you know what they really want to say.....

I am a sick person because when I read this it made be lol:

The Chris Matthews summary is kind of funny and he thinks so little of CM's show. He said he's running for office in Pennsylvannia which I didn't know.

Wales, he did look pissed on The View when questioned about his campaign.

I guess he's so used to having his tail kissed by his base (The Press) that for anyone to question him ticks him off. Paul Begala said this morning that McCain can't stand to have his honor questioned. We'll see how the MSM handles it this week.

And......when was the last time he made a issue statement? It seems like it's been awhile.

The only Sunday morning show I used to watch was MTP and with Tim Russert gone there is no point to it for me. I do read the liberal summary of the Sunday shows because of the interjected humor. I'm actually reading it right now since the football games that are on are you know......with no more Georgia Frontiere I have no reason to not like the Rams anymore so they're off my teams to watch lose list....but you know they pretty much suck anyway.

Here's a little bit about McCain and the internet that is part of the summary I'm reading:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/20...oesnt-mcca.html

From ABC...

I realize some of the nastier liberals in the blogosphere will see this as McCain once again "playing the POW card," but it's simply a fact: typing on a regular keyboard for any sustained period of time bothers McCain physically.

He can type, he occasionally does type, but in general the injuries he sustained as a POW -- ones that make it impossible for him to raise his arms high enough to comb his hair -- mean that small tasks make his shoulders ache, so he tries to avoid any repetitive exercise.

Again, it's not that he can't type, he just by habit avoids when he can repetitive exercise involving his arms. He does if he has to, as with handshaking or autographs.

It's certainly possible that the Obama campaign did not know this, since McCain makes it sound in interviews as if this is a matter of choice, not discomfort because of his war wounds.

Very interesting Wales.

McCain's campaign manager scares the sh!t out of me by the way. He and Karl Rove IMO must share the same mother, they look so alike to me.

I think the media is overplaying McCain's so called rise to the top. IMO I think people are underestimating new voters, and they IMO will help Obama win in November.

I agree and I also think McCain is peaking much too early. It's only September and any lead now is near impossible to hold for nearly two months, especially with the debates coming up. I think Obama is still in a good position to win.

If this Country is lead by a nutbar who ban's books and lies about going on trips we're all in BIG TROUBLE! I call Pailn the leader because it's become clear that she's the one in charge.

As for the personal attacks on this tread it just gives you a small taste of the what the Country will be like if Palin and McCain wins. Unlike Bush Palin as a track recond of getting rid of people she dosen't like. Books will be banned Gays will be jailed and we will have wars with everyone.

Wales, he did look pissed on The View when questioned about his campaign.

I guess he's so used to having his tail kissed by his base (The Press) that for anyone to question him ticks him off. Paul Begala said this morning that McCain can't stand to have his honor questioned. We'll see how the MSM handles it this week.

And......when was the last time he made a issue statement? It seems like it's been awhile.

McCain is no longer in charge of his team Pailin and the puppetmasters contraling her are.

This whole thing as become scary to me , imo were looking at a White House a million time worse than the current one!

This was posted on HuffPost by Sam Stein. It contains a link to a video clip:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/14/k...v_n_126280.html

McCain has really sunk low and is showing a bit of hypocrisy, because back in January during the primaries, he claimed that negative campaigns were doomed to failure and now all of the sudden he's gone extremely negative. If he keeps this up, he's going to turn a lot of people off.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/14...e-step-too-far/

Rove: McCain attacks have gone “one step too far”

In typical Roman fashion, he fails to provide facts. The headline is deceptive. Here is the lead paragraph of the story under that headline:

Former Bush campaign guru Karl Rove said Sunday that both campaigns’ attacks have “gone one step too far,” adding that some McCain spots go “beyond the 100-percent-truth test.”

And here is the full transcript, revealing the liberal press is distorting Rove's comments to suit their need for blood. Read it if you wish to know the truth about the exchange... skip it if you prefer to believe Rove attacked McCain. LOL...

WALLACE: But in any case, do you have any problem with what McCain is doing by, for instance, saying — which a lot of people thought was kind of made up — that Obama was smearing Palin?

ROVE: Yeah. Well, first of all, I do think that the lipstick remark was an inappropriate — and maybe it was unconscious, but it was a deliberate slap at Governor Palin. The only time this word has intruded in recent months in the campaign was in her, you know, self-deprecating remark at the convention. So for him to use the lipstick remark less than two weeks after she used it struck me as too much of a coincidence not to have been a deliberate attack. But look. Both campaigns are making a mistake, and that is they are taking whatever their attacks are and going one step too far. We saw this this week, for example, in the Obama ad where he makes the point, a legitimate point, that John McCain came to the United States Congress in 1982 and that he has been a longtime Washington insider. But they then say he doesn’t even know how to use a — you know, doesn’t send e-mail. Well, this is because his war injuries keep him from being able to use a keyboard. He can’t type. You know, it’s like saying he can’t do jumping jacks. Well, there’s a reason why he can’t raise his arms above his head. There’s a reason why he doesn’t have the nimbleness in his fingers.

WALLACE: All right, and for fair game, what is McCain doing that goes a step too far?

ROVE: Well, McCain has gone in some of his ads — similarly gone one step too far, and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the 100-percent-truth test. They don’t need to attack each other in this way. They have legitimate points to make about each other that are beyond, you know, the…

WALLACE: Real quick question — 30 seconds. Do they need to be 100 percent passing the truth? Just, in other words, when you were running Bush’s campaign, did you care whether some fact-check organization…

ROVE: No, and look, you can’t trust the fact-check organizations, with all due respect. They’re human beings. They’re individuals. They’ve got their own biases built in there. But both campaigns ought to be careful about it. They ought to — there ought to be an adult who says, “Do we really need to go that far in this ad? Don’t we make our point and won’t we get broader acceptance and deny the opposition an opportunity to attack us if we don’t include that one little last tweak in the ad?”

Wales, he did look pissed on The View when questioned about his campaign.

I guess he's so used to having his tail kissed by his base (The Press) that for anyone to question him ticks him off. Paul Begala said this morning that McCain can't stand to have his honor questioned. We'll see how the MSM handles it this week.

And......when was the last time he made a issue statement? It seems like it's been awhile.

Ahhh this guy agrees with me about the uselesnees of MTP:

Now Brokaw is making us relive Rudy's speech at the RNC. Brokaw calls Rudy on the carpet - sort of - for belittling the work of community organizers. Rudy would rather talk nonsense about socialism. OBAMA WILL END POVERTY OR SOMETHING! THIS WILL NOT STAND! COME ORGANIZE THE COMMUNITY OF KLEPTOCRATS AT GIULIANI PARTNERZ!

McCain doesn't want people to remember there are issues since he thinks it's just about personalities and all....we know he's banking on Palin for that.

I know the Republicans are great at showing solidarity but I can't imagine that the majority of them are happy with McCain or her.....and I'm not talking about the religious right who have their own special motivations.

I can understand people saying that they don't care what other nations think of their leadership because this is America and all....who needs them? But the reality is that this nation isn't wholly independent and we do have to make nice with our allies and if our allies are laughing at this then.....I keep waiting for someone to tell me that the joke is over. I can't believe what McCain has done to this campaign. A lot of what happened with Bush's campaingn was very transparent to me and the media wasn't saturating each and every cycle with it so this has become even more of a turn off than in previous years.

When people say the senior Bush used Dan Quayle to make himself appear younger...I can see that but I don't think he looked that old to begin with. McCain does and Palin makes him look older not seem younger. The more I see pictures of them, the more salacious he begins to look to me. And I don't even need to hear him say again how the town hall meetings could have prevented this. I am so with Paul Reiser on this.

In typical Roman fashion, he fails to provide facts. The headline is deceptive. Here is the lead paragraph of the story under that headline:

Former Bush campaign guru Karl Rove said Sunday that both campaigns’ attacks have “gone one step too far,” adding that some McCain spots go “beyond the 100-percent-truth test.”

And here is the full transcript, revealing the liberal press is distorting Rove's comments to suit their need for blood. Read it if you wish to know the truth about the exchange... skip it if you prefer to believe Rove attacked McCain. LOL...

WALLACE: But in any case, do you have any problem with what McCain is doing by, for instance, saying — which a lot of people thought was kind of made up — that Obama was smearing Palin?

ROVE: Yeah. Well, first of all, I do think that the lipstick remark was an inappropriate — and maybe it was unconscious, but it was a deliberate slap at Governor Palin. The only time this word has intruded in recent months in the campaign was in her, you know, self-deprecating remark at the convention. So for him to use the lipstick remark less than two weeks after she used it struck me as too much of a coincidence not to have been a deliberate attack. But look. Both campaigns are making a mistake, and that is they are taking whatever their attacks are and going one step too far. We saw this this week, for example, in the Obama ad where he makes the point, a legitimate point, that John McCain came to the United States Congress in 1982 and that he has been a longtime Washington insider. But they then say he doesn’t even know how to use a — you know, doesn’t send e-mail. Well, this is because his war injuries keep him from being able to use a keyboard. He can’t type. You know, it’s like saying he can’t do jumping jacks. Well, there’s a reason why he can’t raise his arms above his head. There’s a reason why he doesn’t have the nimbleness in his fingers.

WALLACE: All right, and for fair game, what is McCain doing that goes a step too far?

ROVE: Well, McCain has gone in some of his ads — similarly gone one step too far, and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the 100-percent-truth test. They don’t need to attack each other in this way. They have legitimate points to make about each other that are beyond, you know, the…

WALLACE: Real quick question — 30 seconds. Do they need to be 100 percent passing the truth? Just, in other words, when you were running Bush’s campaign, did you care whether some fact-check organization…

ROVE: No, and look, you can’t trust the fact-check organizations, with all due respect. They’re human beings. They’re individuals. They’ve got their own biases built in there. But both campaigns ought to be careful about it. They ought to — there ought to be an adult who says, “Do we really need to go that far in this ad? Don’t we make our point and won’t we get broader acceptance and deny the opposition an opportunity to attack us if we don’t include that one little last tweak in the ad?”

:lol:

Ahhh this guy agrees with me about the uselesnees of MTP:

McCain doesn't want people to remember there are issues since he thinks it's just about personalities and all....we know he's banking on Palin for that.

I know the Republicans are great at showing solidarity but I can't imagine that the majority of them are happy with McCain or her.....and I'm not talking about the religious right who have their own special motivations.

I can understand people saying that they don't care what other nations think of their leadership because this is America and all....who needs them? But the reality is that this nation isn't wholly independent and we do have to make nice with our allies and if our allies are laughing at this then.....I keep waiting for someone to tell me that the joke is over. I can't believe what McCain has done to this campaign. A lot of what happened with Bush's campaingn was very transparent to me and the media wasn't saturating each and every cycle with it so this has become even more of a turn off than in previous years.

When people say the senior Bush used Dan Quayle to make himself appear younger...I can see that but I don't think he looked that old to begin with. McCain does and Palin makes him look older not seem younger. The more I see pictures of them, the more salacious he begins to look to me. And I don't even need to hear him say again how the town hall meetings could have prevented this. I am so with Paul Reiser on this.

That is what some conservatives do. They attack you personally because they don't have the temperment to agree to disagree.

DQ was a horrible choice, but Bush Sr. was riding a wave of Reaganism and it wouldn't matter who he picked for the OO.

Another good article. Thanks.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...&refer=home

Greenspan Says Crisis May Be `Once in Century' Event (Update1)

:lol:

Okay. Gotcha.

Casey may be right... You are not tolerant of opposing viewpoints. You fail routinely to respond to any points presented in any reasonable manner, making it totally pointless discussing these things with you. It's actually fun when people respond with counterpoints, etc. Wales is awesome to chat with... I've had a nice time with Jess, too. And, Roman, you get really pissy when people disagree.

This certainly isn't fun anymore... You seem to want the board to be all about your personal ideology and prefer that any opposing points of view sort of fade away. That isn't a problem for me... Good luck...