Barack Obama Elected President!

[Roman]

joe 2008 September 6 at 8:47 am

Governor Palin’s government directly negotiated fishing and other border sensitive issues directly with the Russians. She possesses direct knowledge about the sizeable U.S. Air Force and Navy presence in her state–and that presence largely exists to patrol and shadow Russian air and naval forces along the Alaskan border and the polar ice cap. Often these patrols involve nuclear armed aircraft and naval vessels. The men and women in the U.S. military who operate these bases live in Alaska and extensive details about those operations are routinely understood by Alaskan state government officials.

Alaskans also trade directly with Russians and Canadians.

Casey, you quoted a guy who posted at the site as proof of her Russian experience?

Thanks bud. I needed that.

[Roman]

Charges of biased Palin coverage don't hold water, new study shows. The Chicago Tribune reported on results provided by Lexis Nexis Analytics, a service that measured the McCain/Palin coverage against the Obama/Biden coverage last week. There were surprises.

> Based on 6,027 Palin stories analyzed, Lexis Nexis found that 26 percent were positive, 22 percent negative and 52 percent neutral, refuting a claim that the media was harsh on her.

> Top of the ticket coverage has been identical, according to Lexis Nexis, refuting a claim that the media is biased in favor of Obama.

> Palin got 60 percent more coverage for the GOP than McCain had earned without her on the ticket. She got 10 percent more coverage than Obama from Sept. 1-7.

Lexis Nexis arrives at these conclusions by reviewing stories from 2,700 media outlets. Issues of tone are analyzed using a scientific algorithm in use since 1995 that finds key patterns in news stories and assigns them a positive, negative or neutral tone.

[George008]

This coming from the king of links. Most of your links are to crooks and liars (or other liberal websites), whose word/opinions you take as final. I used the comment from Joe because he put into words better than I could Palin's interworkings with Russia.

Do you feel that what was said is not plausible? Can you understand that Palin has worked with Russia on sensative issues?

So we have come down now to critiqing sources. I will remember to do that to yours in the future...

[Roman]

http://ykalaska.wordpress.com/2006/06/13/w...atka-peninsula/

Reactions to Thursday’s interviews focused on Palin’s hard-line stance on Russia’s aggression over two republics that broke away from Georgia, and her willingness to let Israel attack Iran. Palin told Gibson she had special insight into Russia because “they’re our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska … from an island in Alaska.” The Seattle Times notes that as governor, Palin hasn’t taken advantage of easy and obvious opportunities for friendly relations with Russia just across the Bering Sea. The Northern Forum is an 18-year-old organization that represents regional governments, including Russia. Yet under Palin, the state government - without consultation - reduced its annual financial support to the Northern Forum to $15,000 from $75,000, according to Priscilla Wohl, the group’s executive director. That forced the forum’s Anchorage office to go without pay for two months. Palin - unlike the previous administrations of Gov. Frank Murkowski and Gov. Tony Knowles - also stopped sending representatives to Northern Forum’s annual meetings, including one last year for regional governors held in the heart of Russia’s oil territory.

[Ryan]

It's ok Casey. And I agree with you, it does happen a lot in this thread.....but there are many who aren't trashing McCain/Palin, only criticizing them for their policies, stances and calling them out on their lies.

[Wales2004]

It all depends on how people look at things. When someone is looking for forward thinking and progressiveness then they're less likely to see older people as fitting in that category. That's not as much as a knock on age as it is a reality period.

Charles Gibson didn't treat her unfairly. She's in line to take over the country possibly within a matter of months and people have the right to know how knowledgeable she is. It's not the same as interviewing candidates during the primary who have a lot longer road to travel and more time for interviews. The window is quite short and it's not as if she was someone in the news quite a bit before her selection. If people want to vote for candidates based on sympathy and not substantive issues then that's good for them. They'll have even less to complain about later.

There are problably more elderly people who are leery of electing an old person. And the whole notion that McCain's handicaps prevent him from being internet savvy is ridiculous. There is too much software out there that responds to voice commands, etx for that to even hold water. Plus he's got people that can assist him with all of that.

[George008]

So you now agree that Palin has influence in US relations with Russia?

So do you feel that Charlie Gibson would take the same approach with Obama if he interviewed him again in the up coming weeks?

[Dr. Jay S.W.]

I do.

[Roman]

No. I posted that to show that she doesn't.

The Seattle Times notes that as governor, Palin hasn’t taken advantage of easy and obvious opportunities for friendly relations with Russia just across the Bering Sea.

I guess you didn't see that, or choose not to recognize that.

Oh well.

[George008]

That is what I was basing my comment on. The statement says that she has the opportunity for friendly relations with Russia..According to you, A couple of posts back she had nothing to do with Russia..except for being its neighbor. The statement also says that she didn't send reps to the governor's forum in Russia. Whether she took a hard stance on Russia or not, it still proves that she has influence in Russian relations...

Also, that statement is from the same website that I posted and that you mocked..

[GoldenDogs]

Then by your statement, Roman, the "world view" of Obama or Biden is not relevant and should not be discussed. Undecided voters, by your standards, apparently have no need to know where these gentlemen stand on foreign policy issues -- we are to take them at face value and trust they share the world view of a majority of Americans because they sat on the Foreign Relations Committee and that qualifies them as experts.

And then, Roman, by your standards, nobody should have ever asked Dick Cheney specifics about HIS "world view" -- apparently you automatically shared his view and he shouldn't have been asked any questions, either, because you didn't need to know his opinions on policy, right??

Riiiiiiiggght.

[GoldenDogs]

Not that I give O'Reilly's interview a big thumbs up -- I thought it was a joke -- but he DID ask these types of questions and had only 30 minutes to ask them.

Honestly, Redd, if we were network-level reporters and had only 10 minutes to chat with an emerging national figure drawing huge crowds and unprecedented interest... WE BOTH would ask meaningful questions about policy and important issues. Any unbiased reporter without an agenda would do their job and get right to the meat and not waste time with pointless softball questions.

Charlie didn't do his job. And by failing to do his job, he armed every partisan Republican from California to Georgia with enough ammunition to cloud the issues with charges of mainstream media bias, thereby obscuring real issues in this election.

[Roman]

Oh, so by your standards, it should only matter what the experience level is depending on the party they belong to.

I just can't get past the fact that if Obama or Biden had the same "dear in the headlights" look she had when CG asked her about the BD, you and some others would be shouting from the rooftops about how unqualified they are. Now, sitting on the FRC is not enough........but sitting next to Russia is.

One minute, I hear from some of you that her experience doesn't matter, then the very next moment it does. Then, a VP (Palin) is not there for the experience, because McCain will make all the decisions, but the next minute she has more than Obama.

Just tell me when you are going to change your argument so I can keep up.

[Tishy]

I am a registered Independent who in the past has voted Republican. Way back in this thread I clearly show my support for Senator Clinton. I am a very strong supporter of woman's rights and equal rights for all. I knew relatively nothing about Obama and knew more about McCain because in 2000, I wanted him on the Republican ticket. I have a number of reasons that I vote the way I do. One of them is the vice President. Harry Truman was vice President and in an instant was President and had to make the decision to drop bombs on Japan. LBJ inherited Vietnam. Sarah Palin, although a woman, if she became President of this wonderful country I am getting the hell out. I believe she has no leadership qualities at all. Just because you were the mayor of a small town and head of the PTA doesn't qualify you as one of the most powerful people in America. I realize that she is the Governor of Alaska for 22 months, but really, what has she accomplished? She is under investigation for abuse of power. She took the money for that bridge to fifty people, then gave it back then kept 27 million of it. She is the head of the Alaskan National Guard. Not true. She believes she has all the foreign policy knowlege she needs because she is close to Russia. Not even Moscow, it's Siberia. To me, that is like saying that she knows the Dutch because Sig Hansen fishes for King crap in Dutch Harbor.

I have enjoyed this thread immensly. I have read a lot of the articles, both pro McCain and pro Obama. My mind is made up. My specific cause that I feel passionate about is equal rights for everyone.

Casey, my quote about Jesus and Pontius Pilate, I just think its a really cool quote from an actress in one of my favorite baseball movies. If you or anyone else find it offensive, I will take it out. But I believe that Obama has rallied people together for a better cause and brought people together as a community. This is the first time since 1992 that I have felt so passionate about my candidate.

Step down from my soapbox....carry on

[GoldenDogs]

Over half of U.S. voters (51%) think reporters are trying to hurt Sarah Palin with their news coverage, and 24% say those stories make them more likely to vote for Republican presidential candidate John McCain in November.

I suppose 51% of the electorate are just making it all up... http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/palinmedia20080904 That was an interesting article.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of voters now believe most reporters try to help the candidate they want to win, and 49% believe reporters are trying to help Obama this year. Only 14% think they are trying to help McCain. In another survey, 55% said media bias is a bigger problem for the electoral process than large campaign donations.

Again, it's just all in our heads. At least it's just in the heads of a majority... By the way, I found this thing online -- not definitive by itself, but interesting to read other opinions -- this one mentions your source, Roman, Lexis Nexis...

...with Universities and their faculties a mere mouse click away, it is not a good idea to rely upon Lexus-Nexis as the definitive source for anything historically related. It is, in my professional opinion, a bad idea.

"Where are we going when journalists use other journalists as their sources (i.e. looking up previous stories on Lexus-Nexis), or unvetted web-sites that 'look' reliable and definitive?

http://www.newshoax.umd.edu/casestudies/hi...toryDecRom.html