This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/P...how/3155121.cms

Great News Roman! I hope Obama wins by 15% or more. It would freaking awesome.

Great News Roman! I hope Obama wins by 15% or more. It would freaking awesome.

I do too. The CF angle, and the way the MSM is playing it is trying to do its best to hurt him, but I don't think many voters care about that. Why should it matter when you're paying out the backside for gass, food and other necesseties?

He just needs to not get arrogant, continue to introduce himself to american people, and point out the differences between him and JM.

That is good news. I hope those numbers hold.

Wow.

Charles Black TRULY stepped in it this time.

McCain's top advisor.

Yeah he did. Glad he did. The Neo-cons showing their true colors more and more. McCain laughs just like W. So freaking irritating.

Edited June 24, 200817 yr by Mulder

I always knew that life is unfair but I didn't know just how unfair until Charles Gibson lamented over poor John McCain (I take it that the great deal of criticism to which he refers comes from other members of the media since I doubt this is a hot topic). Anyway, here's an opportunity to feel Charles Gibson's pain:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/21/j...-much-as-obama/

I can imagine the debate he'd moderate. He'll devote most of it to asking "the coolly arrogant elitist" Obama to explain why he's so unfair.

I was surprised at that clip. I actually like Charlie Gibson most of the time. David Broder even wrote about Obama turning down public financing in his column. I guess public financing of elections is some kind of media priority.

I was surprised at that clip. I actually like Charlie Gibson most of the time. David Broder even wrote about Obama turning down public financing in his column. I guess public financing of elections is some kind of media priority.

I'm not surprised at all. I think ABC News is mostly anti-Obama (though there may be some individuals that are okay with him). At first I chalked it up to the HC support but now it seems to be about something else.

The public financing story seems to be a priority for some media members to make a case against Obama basically. I don't think it has anything to do with real concern over the issue but is about being able to say he's not changing anything.

People in the media who don't like him wish to run it in the ground since they can make into something unbelievably awful as they attempt to convince voters of that.

The ones who like him but want to appear unbiased are using it as an opportunity to say he did a bad thing but in the long run that will be a very good thing for him.

And the ones who don't care about appearing biased or either see this as a non issue are saying just that as in let's move on to something that is substantive.

McCain's strategy is basically to tout himself as the person who can keep the country safe from terrorists and to make people afraid of Barack Obama. A lot of it is subliminal.

CNN's national poll has obama up by 48% to McCain's 40%, just yesterday obama was at 46% to McCain's 40%. I think McCain made a big mistake by not firing his aide that said another terror attack would help him win.

Well, that will depend on the news cycle. I will say this.....keeping him on staff hurts him every day, because it is something the Obama camp can point to as the polictics of fear, where a Republican is saying that another attack will be good for a campaign.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008...-to-talk-white/

Nader: Obama trying to 'talk white'

By M.E. Sprengelmeyer, Rocky Mountain News

Originally published 12:05 a.m., June 25, 2008

Updated 07:01 p.m., June 25, 2008

Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader accused Sen. Barack Obama, the presumed Democratic Party nominee, of downplaying poverty issues, trying to "talk white" and appealing to "white guilt" during his run for the White House.

Nader, a thorn in the Democratic Party's side since the 2000 presidential election, has taken various shots at Obama in recent days while ramping up his latest independent run for president.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Rocky Mountain News on Monday, he said he is running because he believes Democrats, like Republicans, are too closely aligned with corporate interests.

Economic exploitation

Nader was asked if Obama is any different than Democrats he has criticized in the past, considering Obama's pledge to reject campaign contributions from registered lobbyists.

"There's only one thing different about Barack Obama when it comes to being a Democratic presidential candidate. He's half African-American," Nader said. "Whether that will make any difference, I don't know. I haven't heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos. Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What's keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white? He doesn't want to appear like Jesse Jackson? We'll see all that play out in the next few months and if he gets elected afterwards."

The Obama campaign had only a brief response, calling the remarks disappointing.

Asked to clarify whether he thought Obama does try to "talk white," Nader said: "Of course.

"I mean, first of all, the number one thing that a black American politician aspiring to the presidency should be is to candidly describe the plight of the poor, especially in the inner cities and the rural areas, and have a very detailed platform about how the poor is going to be defended by the law, is going to be protected by the law, and is going to be liberated by the law," Nader said. "Haven't heard a thing."

"We are obviously disappointed with these very backward-looking remarks," Obama campaign spokeswoman Shannon Gilson said.

Plans to visit DNC

Nader said he plans to travel to Denver during this summer's Democratic National Convention, hoping to highlight an alternative agenda that he thinks the party should pursue. His appearance in the city is sure to anger some Democrats who believe his presence on the ballot during the contested 2000 election cost Al Gore votes, helping Republican George Bush win the disputed election.

Nader rejects that blame, saying Democrats "scapegoated" him instead of looking at other factors that contributed to the defeat.

'Appeal to white guilt'

Nader said he is not impressed with Obama and that he does not see him campaigning often enough in low-income, predominantly minority communities where there is a "shocking" amount of economic exploitation.

He pointed to issues like predatory lending, shortages of health care and municipal resources, environmental issues and others.

"He wants to show that he is not a threatening . . . another politically threatening African-American politician," Nader said. "He wants to appeal to white guilt. You appeal to white guilt not by coming on as black is beautiful, black is powerful. Basically he's coming on as someone who is not going to threaten the white power structure, whether it's corporate or whether it's simply oligarchic. And they love it. Whites just eat it up."

Now If Obama wanted too, he could smash Nader's easily ass in a second, but he has more class than that.

Not like Obama at ALL to smear LOL

Kidding right? He did it to the Clintons, McCain..and heck even himself with the whole Rev. Wright issue.

But jeez, whatever you do, DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS ON OBAMA....then you will be racist. That is what I have a HUGE problem with. And yes, Howard Dean has said that is the strategy.

You must not have read what I said.

he could smash Nader's easily ass in a second, but he has more class than that

Also, can you name me some times when he used smear tactics?

Not like Obama at ALL to smear LOL

Kidding right? He did it to the Clintons, McCain..and heck even himself with the whole Rev. Wright issue.

But jeez, whatever you do, DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS ON OBAMA....then you will be racist. That is what I have a HUGE problem with. And yes, Howard Dean has said that is the strategy.

The Good Doctor didn't say Obama could not be questioned....

But I seem to recall a certain Republican candidate who has still not fired Charles Black for those comments he made in that interview.

So.......I'll choose questioning a candidate whose top advisor said how good it would be for said campaign IF THE COUNTRY WERE ATTACKED AGAIN over whatever BS that can be thrown at Obama.