This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

Now, please, look at this!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/06/c...jeb-hensarling/

I wonder how msnbc is going to cope if Hillary is out of this race for good, they won't know what to talk about. Unless she is obama's vp.

Lol I'm so angry that I have to work today. I'm going to miss Hilary's big speech......

Not that I'm expecting anything great out of it. I doubt it will approach the quality of an Obama speech nor do I think it will truly genuine. Just more damage control to already way too damaged public image. I'd have paid a million dollars to be a fly on the wall during that meeting between the 2 of them (Obama and Clinton). I hope he basically told her that he's not going to select her for VP but he's not going to reveal his choice until a week or 2 from now...maybe longer. But basically just to keep her out of the limelight and not get her hopes up.

Its time to close the door on the Clintons for good.

I wonder how msnbc is going to cope if Hillary is out of this race for good, they won't know what to talk about. Unless she is obama's vp.

The person who will suffer the most at MSNBC is going to be CM because she is his favorite topic. I think he has sort of a dislike/fascination thing going with her where he somewhat admires her achievements but doesn't really like her and is stopping himself from saying quite what he really thinks. KO, on the other hand, focuses on what she does that he doesn't like as opposed to her as a person. For all intents and purposes he was through with her the day he did his rant and he now seems to talk about her only because she made herself news as opposed to him having any real interest in her plans.

Lol I'm so angry that I have to work today. I'm going to miss Hilary's big speech......

Not that I'm expecting anything great out of it. I doubt it will approach the quality of an Obama speech nor do I think it will truly genuine. Just more damage control to already way too damaged public image. I'd have paid a million dollars to be a fly on the wall during that meeting between the 2 of them (Obama and Clinton). I hope he basically told her that he's not going to select her for VP but he's not going to reveal his choice until a week or 2 from now...maybe longer. But basically just to keep her out of the limelight and not get her hopes up.

Its time to close the door on the Clintons for good.

ITA with you regarding the damage control aspect of this. I don't see anything noble or gracious about conceding after some of your own supporters had to press the issue.

The meeting between the two of them was probably awkward but necessary. I don't know that he needed to bring the VP spot up at all or that he ever needs to tell her she's not going to be his choice (if she's not). In order to stay on the road to recovery, she needs to work for the party. It's enough that he will probably reach out to his supporters to get her massive debt paid off which he shouldn't have to do at all. He doesn't owe her anything at all. He's been respectful and heaped praise on her all over the place and hopefully next week he can start making speeches that don't mention at her at all.

She doesn't have the ability to deliver the millions of votes she got because more than half of those voters are staying with their party. I am skeptical of the numbers the media is throwing around since the question of what if she is not the candidate might have shown up later in the process which means the percentage is not based on total voters but the percentage on exit polls from the point they started asking, i.e., I don't recall that they asked that question earlier on in the primaries.

Whatever real leverage or presumed leverage she had was gone when the shake down for VP began. Now she looks bad to some people who may have liked or tolerated her and even worse to those who didn't like her or who grew to dislike her during this protracted race. They put Obama in a position of looking weak if he offers her the position now or even a month or so from now. That was the worst strategic move she could have made and who knows if she can even unify those voters that she helped anger by touting sexism.

The first couple of minutes of her speech today she repeated teh same stuff she said earlier in the week....

This is a very good speech.....she looks very pretty today.

Give the way she is today (and her policies)....I want her as VP.

This is a very good speech.....she looks very pretty today.

Give the way she is today (and her policies)....I want her as VP.

I don't want her as Obama's VP but if the nominee had been someone else then I might have been able to see it.

I don't like the divisive campaign she ran and it's great that she's giving a good speech today but while I sat watching the drama of her even giving a speech I came to the conclusion that this is a bit of drama that shouldn't have even had to happen. She should have acknowledged that he had the delegates on Tuesday. This whole thing has become about her and I personally don't like that. I give her a lot of credit for pursuing her dreams many people don't.

Obama/hillary 2008.

Watching Hillary today is reminding me of the Hillary I loved and supported for years. The healing has begun....

Obama/Hillary Team 08!

Watching Hillary today is reminding me of the Hillary I loved and supported for years. The healing has begun....

Obama/Hillary Team 08!

I'm almost on board with this. Great, supportive speech by Hillary.

I'm almost on board with this. Great, supportive speech by Hillary.

I really enjoyed her tone, I loved her passion, I loved her honesty. She has every right to praise herself for her historic achievements in this race. MSNBC bitching b/c she "spoke too much about herself," can STFU. Hillary won be back over today, and I will support an Obama/Clinton ticket, and in 2012, should she choose to run, I will vehemently support her.

I really enjoyed her tone, I loved her passion, I loved her honesty. She has every right to praise herself for her historic achievements in this race. MSNBC bitching b/c she "spoke too much about herself," can STFU. Hillary won be back over today, and I will support an Obama/Clinton ticket, and in 2012, should she choose to run, I will vehemently support her.

ITA. I'm so sick of MSNBC bitching and complaining about her, so they do need to STFU. She gave her full support to obama, so what are they complaining about? They just find any little thing to belittle her.

Edited June 7, 200817 yr by EricaKane70

She owes it to all those hardworking supporters to talk about herself. No way around that no matter what the pundits say.

Let me position myself against all of you because IA with MSNBC for the most part. I don't have a problem with her pointing out her achievements but I thought she did that Tuesday in her victory speech so it was rinse and repeat for me. The thing I actually loved about her speech is that she encouraged young people to hope.

This is a very emotional moment for people and I can see why. It doesn't negate the crap for me so yes, move forward and yes let her get her opportunity to bridge the gap she created. But for me it's an emphatic NO to her on his ticket. That's my song and I'll sing it louder as this goes on.

I don't agree with MSNBC at all because this is hillary's time with her supporters and a time to talk about the high and the low points of her time in this race. I was fine with everything she said about herself as long as she gave her full support to obama and encouraged her supporters to get behind obama, she did that so I don't see what MSNBC is bitching about. She talked about the struggles of her and obama because she's a woman and he's AA, being in this race and how historical this campaign was for the both of them. She congratualated obama and his supporters for what they have done in this race. She enthustically gave her support to obama and did that even though there were boo's in the crowd. Today hillary unified the democratic party so again what was MSNBC's problem with that???? Even if hillary had talked about obama 80% in her speech MSNBC would of found something wrong with the speech, I really don't respect that news org at all, I find alot of their news anchors to be ridiculous, racists, and sexists.

Edited June 7, 200817 yr by EricaKane70