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I think people want a joint ticket because some may feel it is owed to her. I feel he owes her nothing. Ater some of the stuff she did during this campaign, why should anyone sit back and think that she will NOW do what's good for the party? If that were the case she would bow out gracefuly.

You know if Obama were in her place, he would have been pushed out HARD a month and a half ago. And how many times have I heard about SDs breaking for Hillary?

Well........I'm still waiting.

But, once again, some don't want to listen to that. They say they care about the party, but don't see how the person who did what they were supposed to do in the primaries should now take a secondary role. If Hillary acts like it's avove her to be VP.......why then should Obama take it? Just to please her?

Or because there are some who feel that it is all he's good for?

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Someone said on MSNBC yesterday that some liberals that previously supported her are annoyed with her. I would guess that they're just put off with her still being around. I believe her presence is a problem for the Democrats despite the protests to the contrary since it gives them a short window with which to tackle the general election but I personally don't care anymore how long she hangs on. It's a reflection on her and maybe it's good for some people to see it all.

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This bullshit.

From AJC.com:

Group protests Cobb bar, calls Obama T-shirts racist

Mulligan's selling shirts with 'Curious George' picture

By CHRISTIAN BOONE

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 05/13/08

Marietta bar owner Mike Norman says the T-shirts he's peddling, featuring a look-a-like of cartoon chimp Curious George peeling a banana, with "Obama in '08" underneath, are not meant to offend.

Norman acknowledged the imagery's Jim Crow roots but said he sees nothing wrong with depicting a prominent African-American as a monkey,

"We're not living in the (19)40's," he said. "Look at him . . . the hairline, the ears — he looks just like Curious George."

About a dozen prostestors rallied against the shirts Tuesday afternoon, condemning them as racist and asking Norman, longtime proprietor of Mulligan's Bar and Grill on Roswell Street, to stop selling them.

Marietta native Pam Lindley, 47, joined the protest after reading about the controversy online.

"I don't want people to think this is what Marietta is all about," she added, motioning towards the tavern. "This is what some people think the South is still like. Marietta's come a long way but I guess it's still got a little ways to go."

She said she'd like to see the city ban Norman's provocative musings regularly posted on a sign out front of the bar, which is near Marietta's downtown square. The loosely formed coalition of civil rights activists who gathered Tuesday say they will continue their campaign against Norman's "hate speech."

But his defenders are just as resolute. Mulligan's is a refuge, they say, in an otherwise hypersensitive world. Here, smoking isn't only allowed, it's expected.

"This place is a diamond in the rough," said Gene McKinley, a Woodstock engineer. "People here are genuine and honest. It's the one place I can go without having to worry if I'm offending someone."

Norman said he's been he's been fielding calls throughout the day about his T-shirts, which he began selling in late April. "One guy in New Jersey wanted me to send him 100 shirts," said Norman, 63.

He said he noted physical similarities between the Democratic frontrunner and the cartoon monkey while watching a Curious George movie with his grandchildren.

Someone — "probably a customer, I don't know" — from Arkansas sent him the shirts, Norman says. He has no plans to mass market them.

Not that's he's bowing to pressure. The Tennessee native figures he's providing a public service of sorts, reminding people they have a right to offend.

"This is my marketing tool," he said.

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Uh no, he doesn't owe her anything and vice versa. I know she has a sense of entitlement but I don't know where her supporters get the idea that he owes her and needs her for anything. If she's the Democrat she claims to be then she should be all for uniting the party since she took lead on causing the damage. That's not an obligation to Obama nor is it something for which he should be grateful.

He picked up two more SDs today despite her huge victory last night and in a week gained more delegates than the 20 she got last night so I suppose he's not feeling the sting at the moment.

He also won Nebraska's symbolic primary by two points which is nothing but I'm pretty certain that HC would have managed to spin a victory in a symbolic primary into an argument that she's more electable.

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He won NEB.?

Good news.

From Boston.com:

Hillary Clinton's blowout win in West Virginia sliced nearly 150,000 votes off Barack Obama's popular vote lead, gave her 20 of the 28 delegates at stake, and added a little lift to her fading hopes for the Democratic nomination.

She'll try to make the most of the 41-percentage-point win, making the full rounds of TV news programs this afternoon and tonight: ABC World News, CBS Evening News, CNN’s "Situation Room," Fox News, NBC Nightly News, and Noticiero Univision.

But she still faces daunting odds to catch up in the decisive delegate count. Obama has 1,885 delegates to 1,717 for Clinton, out of 2,026 needed to clinch the nomination. The number needed rose by one Tuesday when a Democrat won a special election for a congressional seat in Mississippi.

Obama, meanwhile, keeps on keeping on. He has already added two more superdelegates this morning. That makes 32 since his resounding victory in North Carolina last week.

Indiana Congressman Pete Visclosky endorsed Obama, saying in a statement: “America needs a President who offers a vision of the future comprised of sensible solutions to today's troubles. My choice is Senator Barack Obama, who promises to seek pragmatic, progressive solutions to problems like jobs, Iraq, the energy crisis, and healthcare. Barack Obama will bring people together, give them hope, spur change, and set the U.S. back on a course toward progress, prosperity, and global leadership.”

Democrats Abroad chairwoman Christine Schon Marques also announced for Obama, saying: "As a Democrat abroad, I've seen the repercussions of the Republican Administration every day, in the diminished reputation of the United States and in the lack of real leadership both at home and abroad, from the economy to the war in Iraq,” said Schon Marques. “I'm proud to be a Democrat, and proud of both our candidates. Today I pledge my support to Senator Barack Obama because I believe that he will take our country in the right direction, he will restore America's reputation, he will honor the men and women who are bravely serving our country, and he will reach out to Americans across the country and around the world."

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It's purely symbolic since it doesn't count for anything. He previously won their caucus and got delegates from that.

I watched MSNBC yesterday instead of CNN's best political team or whatever it is they tout and Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman together is priceless.

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I think he knows he has the nomination. He's doing the right thing now. He's going to states without primaries and touching base. He's doing all he can do to reunite the party at a time when Hillary refuses to do so.

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From CNN:

Obama holds big lead in Oregon

Posted: 01:00 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Barack Obama is ahead in Oregon polls.

(CNN) — A day after suffering his second-worst defeat of the primary season, a new poll shows Barack Obama is headed for a big win in Oregon next Tuesday.

According to a new poll from the Portland Tribune and KPTV, the Illinois Democrat holds a 20 point lead over Clinton there, 55 percent to 35 percent. Ten percent of voters remain unsure.

The poll was conducted May 8-10, entirely before Clinton's blowout win in West Virginia Tuesday night. There, Clinton beat Obama by 40 points, her second widest margin of victory all year. But Oregon promises to be more favorable for Obama, given its broader swath of liberal and college educated Democrats.

Kentucky, a state with similar demographics to West Virginia, also votes next Tuesday and is expected to hand Clinton another big win.

Both Oregon and Kentucky are bigger prizes in terms of delegates than West Virginia. Fifty-two delegates are up for grabs in Oregon and 51 are on the line in Kentucky. Only 28 delegates were awarded in West Virginia.

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Remeber that same discussion we all keep having, with some saying that Hillary has better numbers against McCain, therefore he should get the nom?

From CNN:

Poll shows both Clinton and Obama beating McCain

Posted: 12:55 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

McCain trails both Democrats in a new poll.

(CNN) — While exit polls from the West Virginia primary seemed to suggest the party is deeply divided between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, a new poll out Wednesday suggests either candidate would easily beat Republican John McCain in the fall.

According to a new Quinnipiac University poll, both Democratic candidates beat McCain by a gap well outside the margin of error. Obama beats McCain by 7 points in the poll, 47 percent to 40 percent, while Hillary Clinton bests the Arizona senator by 5 points, 46 percent to 41 percent.

The poll carries a margin of error of plus or minus 2.4 points and was conducted from May 8-12.

Clinton and Obama's relatively strong standing against McCain in the poll appear to dispel notions that Democratic party may be unable to come together around one candidate in the fall, even as West Virginia exit polls reported majorities of both candidates' supporters would not support the other candidate in the general election.

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This Is HUGE!!!!!

From CNN:

Edwards to endorse Obama

Posted: 05:08 PM ET

(CNN) — CNN has confirmed that former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards will endorse Barack Obama at a Michigan campaign event about an hour from now.

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It's a good thing and I think it will be easier to stick to. The challenge for HC though is that she still needs to raise money to get her campaign out of debt.

I just read this:

The former first lady added that she shouldn't have suggested in a newspaper interview that Barack Obama was having trouble winning over "hardworking...white Americans," saying the racial issues that have crept into the campaign offended her.

If she's offended then hopefully she'll be more mindful of saying those things but since this is the basis for her argument to the SDs then maybe she'll keep it private as she should have done in the first place.

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    • adding onto my thoughts, she always has a purse with a design that matches one of the patterns in her wardrobe of the day.  Everything seems very thought out and put together as her character's choice of look for the day, and Kat wouldn't be caught dead any other way. In her way of looking at life, that is what one does.
    • Point taken. It will be interesting to see as time goes on whether her look is modified/matured.
    • This is the style the show has for Kat https://wornontv.net/beyond-the-gates/kat-richardson/ and https://www.shopyourtv.com/tag/kat-richardson/ It seems to be an intentional look with an aspect of men's tailoring as part of the style of most her outfits, with miniskirts
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