Barack Obama Elected President!

[Greg's GL]

It's been talked about all over the news for weeks, the way the McCain campaign is keeping SP on a short leash (pun intended).

And this is from an excerpt that I linked to earlier from my local paper. The commentator is a moderate independent. If you would like a good read, go back and check it out.

Biden has answered quite a few impromptu questions, sometimes sticking his foot so far down his mouth that it's coming out his ass.

[bandbfan]

I've heard a lot of people mention the lack of Biden in comedy. IMO, he's kind of hard to make fun of. He doesn't have some crazy accent (ala Palin), or something easy to make fun of (being older like McCain or some quirky personality like Clinton(s)). He does stick his foot in his mouth a lot, but a lot of that only happens because people pay close attention to what he says. The average SNL viewer probably wouldn't. The only thing crazy thing Biden has said that IMO, most remember is the higher taxes = patriotic.

[George008]

Global Warming is not necessarily an issue that has been split along party lines. There are many Republicans (as you posted earlier), notably John McCain, that believe in GW, as well as many Democrats. The Republicans do not really have an "agenda" to deny climate change. Your argument of political ideology playing into the global warming debate, is contradictory of your earlier point...showing Republican "believers"

So I am not really following your comment about Coleman being in the "pocket" of the GOP. What would Republicans gain from comments denouncing GW?

Using this same argument I'm not sure how you can critique my source as if all Republicans or conservatives do not believe and all Democrats and liberals do...

Here is one last "unbiased" source against GW, from the AC (affiliated with the Associated Press).

Global Warming is Not Real - What's Behind This Hoax?

The article's answer as to what's behind the hoax..money, and lots of it...Money to combat something that may not even exist.

[Greg's GL]

Another issue. I haven't heard the candidates talk about this, but I thought it would make for some colorful discussions in this thread.

Assisted suicide

There's an article from The Orlando Sentinel of a man in my hometown that shot his wife to death. Evidently she was ill and had cancer. His attorney is calling this a mercy killing.

Elderly man shoots wife

What do y'all think of this? I don't know if this would be considered "assisted suicide" or not, since we will never know if his wife asked him to put her out of her misery.

If your wife/husband/significant other asked you to end their life, and they had a terminal illness with no chance of recovery, would you honor their wishes? Would you do it even if they weren't terminal, but didn't want to go on living for some reason?

Personally, if I live to be 80 or so and am terminally ill, given a few months to live, I don't know what I'd do. But if my beloved partner asked this of me, I think I would do it for him if he were terminally ill.

Should this be legislated by the government at any level? Or should it continue to go through the courts as "murder" as in the story above?

[George008]

I was thinking about this subject last night while I was flipping between Letterman and Leno...I've noticed that niether of them ever make jokes about Obama/Biden. IA with you banbfan, that they are harder to pick on because of their lack of quirks..

But if you think about it...the late-night comedians usually use a quirk from a candidate that starts in a campaign and lasts throughout the entirety of the President's term in office.

For example:

Reagan: joked about his age, and being spacy-headed

Bush I: his accent--mannerisms-- Dana Carvey..enough said..

Clinton: womanizer..

Bush II: dumb..

I wonder what the cliched joke will be with Obama if he is elected? We all know, and have already seen jokes about McCain...age.

[Wales2004]

The media was in a particular huff yesterday about being frozen out of the meetings Palin participated in yesterday. CNN actually went so far as to withdraw before some sort of compromise was worked out. They also complained that McCain hadn't held a press conference in weeks and when he finally did yesterday it lasted about 11 minutes.

Both SNL and MadTV have made fun of Obama. I don't know that there is a whole lot funny about him, Biden, or even McCain at this point but some comedian may be working on it.

I disagree that the media not harping on Biden's gaffes and some trivial lawsuit is an indication of bias. It means that they are doing their jobs in not wasting people's time with rubbish and they probably think the trite topics they do cover are more interesting.

I would venture to guess that Palin's interviews would gain large audiences because people are trying to learn about her. Biden has been around for years so there isn't that urgency to learn more about him as opposed to learning a little something about someone who could be VP in a matter of weeks.

[Greg's GL]

Point taken. However, I do believe that there are many more Dems that believe in Global Warming than there are Republicans. Would you agree?

Perhaps not in today's political climate, with both McCain and Obama believing that it's a problem. However, there has most definitely been an agenda by the Bush Administration to downplay it's existence. One example is having the EPA's position watered down and numerous reports of scientists in places like NASA having to have someone in the administration review their reports on the subject. And if something was too supportive of GW, having the document changed to reflect GWB's views.

Big business support via lobbyists, for one thing. Big Oil's support as well.

Anyway. It's always interesting to hear your point of view because it's so different than mine.

[George008]

Yeah that is probably right.

I share Bush's views on global warming, but it still doesn't mean that it is an issue on political ideology..

Thanks...

[Greg's GL]

Ummmm. Yes, I'm quoting myself cuz I really want to hear y'alls opinion on this subject. Don't make me keep bumping it up in the thread cuz I will! And I'm not afraid to quote myself again to make it happen!

[ReddFoxx]

Per CNN coverage, McCain is suspending his campaign temporarily to work on economic issues and wants the first debate delayed.

[Roman]

Is the translation:

"He is suspending his campaign to get his head out of his ass so he doesn't embarasse himself on Friday"?

[Roman]

Palin gets question, looks to McCain, demurs

This is what happens when campaigns let reporters into photo ops. They get all uppity and ask questions.

From the pool report account of what happened after McCain and Palin's meeting with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvilli and Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko:

McCain then looked around the room and gestured as if to welcome questions. The AP reporter shouted a question at Gov. Palin (“Governor, what have you learned from your meetings?”) but McCain aide Brooke Buchanan intervened and shepherded everybody out of the room.

Palin looked surprised, leaned over to McCain and asked him a question, to which your pooler thinks he shook his head as if to say “No.”

[Roman]

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/24/f...from-the-press/

Free Sarah Palin: Campbell Brown goes off on McCain for hiding Palin from the press

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/24/s...her-42-million/

Shouldn’t Carly Fiorina give back her 42 million?

[GoldenDogs]

I'll believe what I see the evening of November 4th... going into the early morning hours as both camps refuse to concede... on into the next day when the recounts are demanded... through the coming weeks and into the next month as the legal challenges are brought forth... moving on do December when the Supreme Court weighs in and...

Well, you get the idea. I just hope Joe Biden's assemblege of great legal minds can help us avert was I'm sure will be certain disaster!

They avoid such nonsense so easily in other countries... I mean, you don't see Hugo Chavez arguing over hanging chads!

[GoldenDogs]

Thank you, Jess! You have a very nice bias, too.

You know what really give me pause about McCain? His age. OMG... That makes the inexperienced, nasty-skank-in-the-box Palin NEXT IN LINE TO THE THRONE is his heart skips a beat away...

Just kidding! I'm okay with his age... and with Palin since the President really runs the government by committee.

Though we both know Clarence Thomas is in charge from the bench, with his nasty conservative ideology!!!! Damn him... Damn him to HELLLLLL!!!!!