Newbies CAN be in front burner storylines - it's how your write them.

Precisely! I cannot emphasise enough how important this is!

I agree with you 100% Sylph.

You mean you DON'T make them the automatic stars of the show?

You mean you DON'T make them the automatic stars of the show?

You can make them. You just have to know how to do it.

OK, people, I don't know if you've noticed, but Tracey Ann Kelly's IMDB page says her "alternate name" is Anne M. Schoettle.

I don't think it's true, but then again – I might be mistaken. Anne Marie Schoettle is David Shaughnessy's wife, as far as I know, who lives with her husband in CA. On the other hand, I think Tracey lives in Pennsylvania... I think...

Can someone confirm this?

OK, people, I don't know if you've noticed, but Tracey Ann Kelly's IMDB page says her "alternate name" is Anne M. Schoettle.

I don't think it's true, but then again - I might be mistaken. Anne Marie Schoettle is David Shaughnessy's wife, as far as I know, who lives with her husband in CA. On the other hand, I think Tracey lives in Pennsylvania... I think...

Can someone confirm this?

This is an error which probably occured while fixing the scriptwriter for one episode which was before incorrectly credited by Anne Schoettle who was always credited as Anne M. Schoettle on B&B.

How do I fathon this so Smartypants-like? It was probably my bad.

EDITED to stress: Schoettle is of course Shaugnessy's wife and not identical with Tracy Ann Kelly in any way.

Now to some more B&B related writer questions:

1. Is Jack Smith back in the credits yet?

2. How comes that B&B does not list its story consultants daily anymore? Ever since the strike they got moved to the crew credits... Has it sth. to do with the outcome of the strike?

Edited May 15, 200817 yr by sheilaforever

This is an error which probably occured while fixing the scriptwriter for one episode which was before incorrectly credited by Anne Schoettle who was always credited as Anne M. Schoettle on B&B.

How do I fathon this so Smartypants-like? It was probably my bad.

EDITED to stress: Schoettle is of course Shaugnessy's wife and not identical with Tracy Ann Kelly in any way.

God, I hate IMDB! Not. Yes, Anne is 48, I think, and Tracey is 40-ish. I wanted to point this out in case ChrisB got worried about my posts not containing the age information any more.

Sorry guys but Kay Alden did have something to do with AMC in some aspect. I doubt she'd give an interview talking about the show if she didn't. I remember she said things like "AMC's canvas is FULL of unlikeable characters" and that there were certain characters she would have gotten rid of.

My guess is she wanted to get rid of Frons's pets(Ryan, Babe, etc....) and that's why he cut her loose

I think she consulted if she didn't write anything, and she did submit a bible, that was confirmed I remember that.

I am still waiting for the day when someone writes "Barbara Esensten and James Harmon Brown are last listed as head writer of All My Children...."

Jason we're all waiting for that day

Edited May 15, 200817 yr by Zendall Fan

Alden definitely wrote a detailed bible for AMC. In the talk she gave a year ago she said that she had written a bible that would get the show back in shape so that it could "take off" during November sweeps.

And therein lies the problem I think: her bible probably didn't have any big exciting plot points to get Frons' attention; it was about slowly re-building the show over several months. Esensten & Brown swooped in with their "Crash" projection, Frons pissed his pants he was so exited, and the rest is history. The story was a total flop and drove the show to last place in the ratings.

I have some issues with Alden's pacing but I have no doubt AMC would be in a very different position right now had Frons not gone for the quick fix with "Crash", which ultimately fixed nothing.

Edited May 15, 200817 yr by LeClerc

Next week will make a year since it was announced that B&E would Head Write AMC. If they aren't fired now, I doubt they'll be fired any time soon. I wouldn't put it passed Frons to renew their contract, no matter how bad the ratings and the quality of the show are.

Edited May 15, 200817 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I don't think B&E are going anywhere any time soon.

Yeah I doubt SOD is going to print a blurb about Tomlin and Pratt coming to AMC if the show wasn't looking for replacements for B&E. So yep I think they're at AMC in name only now.

I also think that the Jesse & Angie wedding might be their swan song

Edited May 15, 200817 yr by Zendall Fan

I really hope B&E are gone!!!!

Jason we're all waiting for that day

The hacks need to go to the landfill where they belong

I also think that the Jesse & Angie wedding might be their swan song

Yep go out with a wedding and STAY OUT!

Having just seen all the ratings, sweeps ratings, if B&E are not let go in the next couple of weeks then they aren't going. It's as simple as that.

We know a cycle is up, we know that AMC is dead last is pretty much every ratings category mankind has created, we know it's sweeps, we know this has been true of every sweeps period since B&E began.....

So if it doesn't happen now, that's it.