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Messing with my mind how they have both Diane and Vanessa in red, and how SLG and AS both played Donna on AW. I was kind of skipping around the episode so I thought there was an internal dual temp recast going on. I don't remember the circumstances of MK's absence, but an op-ed in SOD suggested that GL was foolish not to jump on the chance to rehire AS as Vanessa. My memory is a little foggy, but I'm assuming this was after AW was cancelled.

Anna read for Felicia and AW ended up creating Donna for her so she was certainly on P&G's radar.

I have some episodes from this era, and I assumed she was wearing a wig as they were particularly popular in the seventies. But as a poster at WoST convinced me years ago, this was her natural hair (adding that Beverlee was a Leo, of course she had great hair). What I want to know is how bloody long did she have to sit in the chair having her hair set like that!? The styles certainly got simpler on GL. Jay Hammer said Beverlee had two alarm clocks: one on the bureau, one in the bathroom. She'd wrap her hair in an Hermès scarf and head to the studio.

Oof, I could not STAND second Taylor. I haven't uploaded to YouTube in forever, but I'm reminded that I have an episode where Taylor and Noah have a pretty hot love scene. Ingrid was in Carlito's Way which was covered in SOD. I always assumed she left AMC to pursue her film career. She was really good at playing a nasty princess (in a way that didn't make my teeth itch like her replacement). When Taylor figured out that Lucas was Terrence's father, it drove me nuts the way she kept gleefully reminding Terrence that he was, "Lucas Barnes' *bastard* son!"

One of the racists in Deconstruction fell for her, and like in every tragic mulatto movie ever, of course he wanted to kill her once he found out she was black.

@Darn Check out this link, some pictures. She kind of looks like Paula Jones. https://themakeupgallery.info/disguise/ethnic/amcir.htm

Think Wayans brothers in White Chicks. Of course Ingrid was much prettier.

Infuriating! Particularly on a rotary phone, all of that wasted time.

VW is rocking that tan.

I follow Victoria Wyndham on Instagram, I really enjoy her posts and I'm so happy that she's living her best life in Connecticut with her horses and dogs and birds on a lovely piece of property. Her artwork speaks to me, we share the same tastes.

I can't put my finger on it but Susan is reminding me of SMG in that short clip. I've never thought that they particularly look alike but there's something in that clip that is really giving me the connection.

I was totally rooting for Leslie that year and figured Erika had it in the bag for the following year. Of course she was wonderful, but I thought Erika won a year too soon.

Dorian was down there for a month. Jean made Dorian phone Cassie to tell her that she was in Spain and had no intentions of coming back to Llanview. When Jean learned that Cassie had the call traced to a local cell phone, Jean knew her plan was unravelling and she agreed to release Dorian (on several conditions) once the house was clear. Todd confronted "Viki" about their pervy father and Jean lost control and Niki emerged. She took off for Atlantic City and left Dorian starving in the secret room for days. Dorian busted through the wall and discovered an underground tunnel. I was certain this tunnel was going to lead to Eterna, but no, they didn't go there. 😆 Jean reemerged and rushed back to Llanfair just in time to catch Dorian before escaping, and released her as promised. It all eventually came out but at first Dorian had to honor Jean's conditions to keep Viki's abuse and other personalities a secret, and to dump Joey and marry David. In return, Jean would ensure that "Viki" wouldn't further pursue murder charges against Dorian since it turned out that Irene's diary confession that got Dorian off death row was a forgery.

It's all a matter of retro-logic really as Robin Strasser pitched the idea of introducing the sexual abuse factor into Viki's history of DID. She's admitted that she sort of shot herself in the foot by doing so as it led to the revelation that Viki killed her father when Robin used Dorian's responsibility for Victor' s death as major character motivation. Me too. As well as the scene I believe @Paul Raven talks about where Karen whoops Dorian's ass.

Rare Claire Malis sighting ten seconds in.

Has VR guest-starred on any of the OWN series? Rather than be wasted on Y&R, she should be a series regular on one of those shows, she's certainly as capable as/more soapily equipped than Robin Givens. VR could play a Dru-type, in the vein of so many soap stars afforded the same opportunity in daytime (soap hopping playing essentially the same character with a new name and set of circumstances). If we still had at least 10 soaps on the air, maybe VR would have had this chance by now (assuming someone in daytime with a spine stood up for the "uncastable"). And then there was "sassy" full-figured Sofia, and I wish somebody would look me dead in my face and tell me that had nothing to do with Oprah in The Color Purple.

Thank you! Yes, upon her resumé, I now recognize her. I mistakenly remembered Louie having Dementia rather than cancer. At any rate, even then I appreciated his presence on the show for filling out that age group and giving Kate something to do. They'd do a little more with that with another soap alum of a certain age, Stu from SFT as Gwyn's dad.

Yeah, I'm forgetting the details, but she used tainted crème that disfigured her, she was in bandages for a go.

Does anyone know the name of the actress playing Beatrice? I know I know her from another show (maybe TCS?), I just can't place her at the moment. This is around the time I first say Patricia Barry as Isabelle (my mother: "They done changed that picture for the thousandth time..."). I missed the chemical burn stuff when the face cream turned Celeste Holm into Patricia Barry. I'm guessing that was late '92?

Yes, Arthur Burghardt. She never ever calls him by name, but that's who. She *begged* for him not to be cast.

Totally. I watched this the other week when it was posted, and I could practically hear the register printing out all of Ms. Holly's receipts. At least Erika Slezak had the good sense to admit that Viki didn't deserve to be Carla's matron of honor (which Holly took as an ungrateful affront). I can't help but laugh at 4:00 where Viki gets yet another closeup and Erika seems to be thinking, "WTF am I doing here..."

I don't recall but you've reminded me that Frankie and Bobby Warner were also buds, they were a few years older than me when I was a kid. I don't think they were ever on the canvas at the same time as adults.

Yes, I always loved any reference to Nora being Jewish. I even remember Rachel referring to herself as "a good little Jewish girl."

How explicit was OLTL about the Siegels' faith? I'm thinking about how some years later on AW, Iris' mother Sylvie's Judaism was "heavily inferred" but never outright stated. I can imagine clunky "safe" dialogue using phrases like "interfaith marriage" and whatnot, but I'm curious how often the word Jewish was uttered and how Agnes Nixon established their religion to begin with. Did the Siegels go to temple, observe high holidays? @Paul Raven @vetsoapfan

Debbi Morgan and Darnell Williams shared this sentiment, i.e., Angie (Chief of Staff) and Jesse (Chief of Police) in their *cozy* loft. 2.0 righted this, IIRC.