Mitch

Yes, he asked her about Chuckie and Fulton said..."Nancy Hughes buried him, and whoever Nancy Hughes buries stays dead!" (if only other writers would listen to their actors like that.) However, I think their was wiggle room, and would have loved for Lisa's bad girl days would come back to haunt her. I always wanted the Dr. Shea history to be revisited as it must have been something..Lisa, Nancy Hughes pet, tearing apart her best friends marriage... Yea, I cannot believe that a long lost son of Lisa' s could be so damn boring. I knew when we had this 30 something guy in a sweater living at home and saying "Grandmother" that it was already on the wrong path. I did like Wert's version (and his pecs) but it came at a bad time for the show and was not his fault. Like Reva, Lisa should have been confronted with a male version of herself on steroids...(well, not as loud as Jonathon I hope) and there we just got a bit of a younger version of Holmes Tom.

I just wish that someone would have done something more intense with their relationship..Marland was the only one to touch it (in a video from the Willows era David and Ellen are chucking that Lisa wanted to open a wine bar in the basement (very forward thinking of Lisa and actually a foreshadowing of what was to come) and that "Whatever Lisa puts her mind to she can do..." like they were the best of friends. If someone had helped turn my mom into a drunken lush I would have it out for them forever..and with Ellen and Lisa under Marland it was just like they annoyed each other. I really wish they had brought back "Chuckie" with his dad still alive (hey if James could do it) and the old past would come to the fore. Scott Eldridge was too boring but I am sure Marland would have made Chuckie as politely dull. At least, when Ellen and Lisa are having the spat about letting Emily stay at Lisa's Ellen could have spit out..."I wont let the same thing happen to Emily that happened to my mother!" She looks great...and if you ever saw pictures of her husband when they were younger..he was handsome..and a doctor! Ole Ellen had something going on to keep that hottie!

Yes...they had no chemistry...and but she had a daughter Karen, who caused trouble for dull as dirt Annie/Jeff and blackmailed James into marrying her (thus dumping Dee at the altar) and then got involved with John and fought Lucy over him. She was fun. Its too bad that they didn't find a Cynthia who HF had chemistry with to prolong the David/Ellen split, but to tell you the truth...HF was never going to light up the screen with chemistry as good of an actor HF was. Oh..the bun!!! But it was also the pained expression Ellen and dour David always had on their faces. When they "jazzed" (as my mom would say) Ellen up and let her smile she was pretty....though my Grandmother never bought it..."Look at dull old Ellen, trying to be cute with that long hair!" The dour days must have been hell for Bruder to play. No offense to the actor, but if the "hot" storyline was putting her with Ralph Mitchell after all these years and sitting in a corner, if I was Bruder I would have thrown the script up in the air! I just wish someone had the balls to give Lisa back her claws..have her write an expose..."Murders Among Us" in the Argos, with Ellen's article..."Suburban Murderess" Ellen then wakes up and goes and smacks Lisa down in the Hughes kitchen when they both invariably stop by for coffee in the morning...with Kim and Nancy pulling them apart. Maybe they could have brought Scott back and paired him with Dee..she had a taste for bad apples...

When David and Ellen broke off would have been the perfect time to bring back Don. Poor Mary could have died (she was always going into a coma anyway...) and Don comes back with Teddy (they could have brought back Wagner at that time and explained she was off taking car of things after Mary kicked) and starts a romance with Ellen..causing Bob and Nancy and Chris to not be happy. Instead, they had Ellen move into a swinging middle aged ladies apt with a bunch of nobodies and date a doctor who was a nobody and disappeared.

Wow...slutting around with a married guy..did she even love David or was it just to get the kid..and then killing someone! She sounds worse then Lisa at her height of bitchiness! Meaning I think I would have liked her. She could have made such an interesting character and she was just a dull frau. I can't believe during their little annoyance with each other that Ellen didn't bring up that Lisa was a slut and Lisa could say "Well honey, I never MURDERED anyone!" and the Ellen slap her...making Kim and Bob rattle their tea cups! I know, a bit too intense for Marland and polite Oakdale. They should have at least given Ellen a wistfull air or a temper.

Very nice memorials, especially from RN. Wow,..its just hard to believe Nola is gone!

I always thought they wrote poor Ellen as a dud and Bruder could have done much better with the character..especially with her wild past. Was she preggers and gave the baby up on screen..if she was a widow why give the kid away? Also, how did she get into David's orbit...and how did Frannie die and was she murdered by someone else? I always thought they should bring back a relative of Frannie, maybe a son to date Dee or Annie (instead of the dreaded Porny Brad) or grandson to date Betsy...or have someone become the Stewarts maid and its her granddaughter gaslighting Ellen. So much history there but poor Ellen was always a dud.

Ha..sounds like Marland's ATWT! Grow up Lily...he screwed someone else and can be a father to the kid while married to you. This was weird fake Lily too, the tall cold one? Yea...I just was done with the whole "Protect Lily" thing..especially since at this time she was played by someone who looked like they could go bear hunting with a stick and seemed unpleasant all the time...(not that Byrne's Lily wasnt a whiny little snot but she was Lily...) and the whole Snyder family was tiresome by that point. A new Margo and Tom who had none of the chemistry or energy of the old M and T's, all the corporate people running around (did anyone in Oakdale just run a hardware store) talking about how they need to focus on relationships instead of business, John with poor dour Iva (after he had screwed her mother....)when John should have been with Lucinda stirring up trouble. I remember being so excited that Will from GL was going to be on ATWT but his character was just as boring as everyone else was. The only bright spot truly was Lucinda reveling in her greed and business and making trouble for the Snyders. Funny..I was totally into GL at the time and look at its ratings and I can't believe AMC and OLTL were that low in the ratings.

Ha....love it..Lucinda is right about everything..love the sniping and side stepping between Lucinda and Lisa on the phone!. By the way, was Lisa just crowned the Snowflake Queen with that dress. I forgot how ridiculous it was that little Oakdale had all of these huge corporations colliding...World Wide, Krueger Industries, and whatever the hell Frannies husbands biz was called. Good thing RB stuck to writing, his was not the most energetic actor.. (but actually looked like a real person.) I love that they used him just get to move the plot along and he does not waste anytime does he..."Oh hi Lisa, nice to meet you, by the by, why was everyone so close mouthed about my cousin's death???" and "Oh yes Lucinda, my cousin died while he brother was still married to Lisa, and no one would talk about it and Lisa just acted weirded out when I mentioend it and you really do need to sniff around that..." Can anyone remind me about the Baby Aaron storyline..I was bored with ATWT at the time so only tuned in and out and it seemed everyday they were talking about this...how did Andy's name get on the birth certificate and why didnt they just say, "Hey Lily..Holden knocked up Julie and this is his kid and Iva adopted him..okay? One thing off of Lisa's plate.."

All of those and to top it off, acknowledging the Reardon's ties to Company and the Boardinghouse, (and Nola's snark on the Coopers) and actually allowing Alan and Ed to have a real conversation which didn't feel forced.

She did, and the producer before her...(he of the bad lighting, cheap sets and garish make up) was Fred Bartholemew...former child star, turned ad agency exec who was given ATWT and was pretty much a hack...I remember when Search was on before ATWT as a kid, even if I wasnt interested...it always looked better then ATWT did at that time.

The Lily paternity reveal in the barn looks hilarious without dialogue...Fichtner's reaction looks like it came from a silent movie (of course, the Snyders and their barnyard incest antics were my least favorite part of the show...)

Hope Bauer.. a big mystery why they never brought her back with Alan on screen and a need for a Bauer matriarch. I really can't believe they never went there with recasting with whatsherface that Deas was paired with on SB and have a triangle of Buzz/Hope/Alan..not that I wanted to see that at all but since they seemed to have a hard on as Buzz actually being a capable foil to Alan. I know they aged AM so much that it would have been difficult to recast but Deas isn't that much older the the guy playing Frank , Ann Sward on ATWT was I think only 5 years older then Margaret Colin who played her daughter.

Hmm. as Margo...interesting. I never bought Dolan, who I liked a Maureen, as Margo. I wished they had brought Gabet on to GL when they cast Malloy...what fun it would have been to see Reva and Raven going at it...and would have saved us from boring Maeve.

That intro shows the sudden change in GL at that time to keep "pace" with GH...(though GL was doing just fine in the ratings...) it goes from a mix of vets and new characters having romance and family moments to mostly young and newbies and explosions, kicking in doors, slapping, punching pushing and other "action" moments.