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I've wondered about that. But, even if he does or even if there's a process they have to go through to fire him, write him up first, etc., they could still contain him. He could come to work every day & sit in a room alone. No duties. No power. No contact with cast or crew, just one someone to liaise with him. And they could make an announcement. The silence is very loud.

Apparently so..😄 Ellen Weston's allowed here?!

Must have. I am satisfied. Further, I am sorry to have posted. It was ignorance on my part. Over. Done.

[S.W.S.N.B.N.] Thank you for the reply. I've seen no troll-like behavior but rules are rules.

Seriously? I'll wait for a reply before I delete.

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I really liked Stacy seeing through Vicky! But, I also bought into Stacy with Derek. And, I was a fan of both Beauty and the Beasts, original & reboot. I really liked that Derek was such a protector. And, that the beast was such a gentle soul. [Later I liked the actress on GL as somewhat crazy Eve. Eve? Hmm. Dated Ed & semi-mothered Michelle.] And, of course, I liked her being family to Cass, a Winthrop. To me it was a good time to visit Bay City.

I looked up Alarr's dates just a few minutes ago. Directing occasionally 2003. Asst. Producer 2005. But then co-EP Aug. 3, 2015. So, then, the bully had power. That's 18 years ago.

An earlier report included "forceful kissing" so very much in the realm of disgusting, sordid, appalling, etc. And his d*ke comment would be awful no matter what but it's particularly egregious because there used to be rumors long ago.

We found 4 episodes of Hollywood Square/Match Game Hour with NBC Daytime stars. From AW Christopher Rich & Nancy Frangione (looking quite marvelous). From SFT David Forsythe & Marcia McCabe. From DAYS Wayne Northrup, Dee Hall, John De Lancie & Leann Hunley. I've posted one in the DAYS BTS Thread & will post the others there.

We found 4 episodes of Hollywood Square/Match Game Hour with NBC Daytime stars. From AW Christopher Rich & Nancy Frangione (looking quite marvelous). From SFT David Forsythe & Marcia McCabe. From DAYS Wayne Northrup, Dee Hall, John De Lancie & Leann Hunley. I've posted one in the DAYS BTS Thread & will post the others there.

Maybe this'll be the day that Al Alarr is fired & security escorts him out the gates!

Sigh. Quote from an article I posted in NBC Daytime earlier tonight: The latest plot twists in "As the Daytime Executives Turn": Johnson, who served as NBC's vice president of daytime and children's television from 1978-81, ... Makes me want to 🤬.

LOL. Time. Escapes me. https://www.change.org/p/fire-albert-alarr Now has 1220 signatures & we need many more! This petition is in response to the recent allegations against Albert Alarr, the EP of Days Of Our Lives. We have created this petition on behalf of the victims, in the hopes that the appropriate actions are taken. If you are as appalled as we are, please let your voices be heard by signing this petition to demand the firing of Albert Alarr ASAP. PREVIOUS CONTACT, more info, adding emails NBCUniversal is the parent company over Peacock. Here is the NBCU Prez over Peacock. Twitter (at) kellycampbell emails: [email protected] [email protected]

Wait. I'm confused. Sept. 12th is the anniversary of the move to Peacock.

It becomes apparent that he & Lucy were overlapping. Who knew 1981 would be such an NBC puzzlement.

Okay, found an article that credits Lucy at NBC DT 1978-81. Full article posted in NBC Daytime thread. Other dt execs in the period are referred to or quoted. Also found Earl Greenburg & he was VP of DT at NBC & he was the gay exec who fired Wesley Eure for being an out gay man. That was in 1981.

Also from We Love Soaps, full article FLASHBACK: The Reselling of Daytime Television 1989 The Reselling of Daytime Television `It Isn't All Soap, Hamburger Helper. The Profile of the Advertiser Is Changing, the Profile of the Audience Is Changing.' By Diane Haitman Los Angeles Times August 31, 1989 For the last few years, while the Big Three networks wrung their corporate hands over the dwindling prime-time audience, they seemed blissfully unaware that daytime TV-that predictable, comfortable blend of game shows, talk shows and soap operas on the air between 9 a.m. and 3 p.m.-was losing ground even faster. Compared with prime time, daytime's audience has shrunk less rapidly-dropping only 6% to prime-time's 9% since 1984. But daytime has been getting hit where it hurts-in the network pocketbook. In prime time, the networks grumble merely that advertising revenues aren't climbing at the rate they used to. In daytime, however, the networks' combined yearly advertising revenues have plummeted from $1.5 billion to $1.3 billion since 1984. Although the networks haven't concocted any solutions yet, they've at least begun admitting that when $200 million is missing, it's time to figure out where it went. "The reselling of this part of the day is going on at all the networks," said Michael Brockman, ABC's president of daytime, children's and late-night entertainment. "The networks are beginning to realize that they have sort of taken for granted this `daypart,' and it has become imperative for us to bring to focus . . . that this is still a very vital and alive and powerful part of the day." Lucy Johnson, CBS' vice president of daytime programs, described the networks' current state of concern over daytime as being "not in a panic, but not complacent either." That's evident in the recent game of musical chairs in the networks' executive suites. The latest plot twists in "As the Daytime Executives Turn": Johnson, who served as NBC's vice president of daytime and children's television from 1978-81, was hired at CBS last spring, returning to daytime television following a stint as a studio executive at Lorimar and several years in independent production. She accepted the position at CBS, she said, because she was eager to work once more with Brockman, who was then CBS' vice president of daytime, children's and late night programming. Just before Johnson got to CBS, however, Brockman left. In April, ABC split its entertainment division in two and named Brockman to the newly created position of president of daytime, children's and late-night entertainment. Meanwhile, at NBC, Brian Frons, who was vice president of daytime programs, was promoted to vice president of creative affairs in May. To fill his position, the network brought in Jackie Smith, who was president of daytime programs for ABC from 1977 to 1978. Brockman's move to ABC is particularly significant. Under ABC's new structure, Brockman is independent of ABC Entertainment and, like the presidents of other divisions such as ABC News and ABC Sports, now reports directly to John B. Sias, president of the ABC Television Network Group. Before, daytime fell under the aegis of the entertainment department, rather than getting its own division and its own president. "The awareness on the part of the networks that they're sort of going to have to get their act together and figure out ways to revitalize the area, in some ways and in varying degrees, is reflected in these changes," Brockman said. TV executives wistfully recall that daytime was once a great "daypart," as the networks refer to the various portions of their broadcast schedule. Compared to prime-time series and movies, daytime soap operas were cheap to produce; game shows and talk shows were even cheaper. Although industry experts disagree on whether daytime used to make more money for the networks than prime time, the lower production costs insured that their profit margins were higher. The audience the advertisers craved, women aged 18 to 49, were home, they were watching-and they were buying. Then things changed. More and more women got jobs, and daytime ratings began to decline. More importantly, worried advertisers began to divert a greater percentage of their money to prime-time TV, rather than daytime TV. Along with the same threats facing prime time-more competition from independent stations, cable TV and videocassettes-local stations are buying more syndicated game shows and talk shows now than ever, leading them to pre-empt many network daytime shows. Arnold Becker, vice president of television research at CBS, said that even though daytime ratings have not dropped sharply, advertisers fear that the women who are still at home watching daytime TV aren't the young, affluent ones they're after. "Advertisers are saying: `Ratings or no ratings, how can I believe that there aren't a lot less women watching? And if I do believe the ratings, who could these women be?' " Becker said. "(Advertisers believe) these are probably economically undesirable women, if you will-somewhat older, they are likely to be somewhat poorer, and maybe these are not the leading-edge women that they want to get. "Whether that's true or not, those kinds of perceptions do influence the people who buy advertising," Becker continued. "Especially since, when I go into the advertising agencies these days, the people who are making the decisions don't look like they're old enough to be working full-time." Equally painful for the networks has been an innovation introduced in 1983: the 15-second advertisement. Diane Seaman, NBC's vice president of daytime advertising sales, said the networks switched from 30-second commercials to 15-second commercials in every daypart except the Saturday morning children's block because they believed shorter spots would attract smaller advertisers who couldn't afford 30 seconds, and would provide another option for the regular pool of advertisers as well. The tactic may have attracted smaller companies, but it also led advertisers to discover something else: that, according to research studies, one 15-second spot was 80% as effective as a 30-second spot, for only half the price. Frugal advertisers did not buy twice the number of daytime commercials, however. They began buying more prime-time spots with the money they saved in daytime. And because there are fewer major advertisers that buy daytime spots, the demand-and the price-for the available advertising time dropped. Seaman said the networks experienced the same financial hardship when they switched from 60- to 30-second spots years ago, but they eventually recovered and hope the same thing will happen again. "We knew there was going to be some dislocation, that it would be rough going for a few years," she said. Although most plans to revitalize daytime are still in the talking stage, the networks have taken a few tentative steps to make their daytime lineups both more attractive and more profitable. NBC, currently in last place in the daytime ratings, introduced a new daytime serial, GENERATIONS, in March. Besides the attraction of a new soap to viewers, said NBC's Frons, the network hoped to bring more advertising dollars back to daytime: although some daytime executives scoff at the idea, NBC believes that soaps are draw a more affluent audience than game shows, and thus can command higher advertising rates. ABC, meanwhile, expanded its HOME show from 30 to 60 minutes a day earlier this year. Although the 19-month-old, do-it-yourself home-improvement show, which Rob Weller hosts, does not represent a new daytime concept, it was the first such show to come along in years and provided at least some relief from the steady diet of games and soaps. Neither GENERATIONS, the story of two affluent Chicago families, one black and one white, or HOME have been ratings successes, however; HOME currently ranks 18th and GENERATIONS 20th out of 21 programs. Still, ABC's Brockman argues that THE HOME SHOW remains attractive to advertisers because of its young, affluent audience. In October, NBC plans to introduce ON-LINE, two daily, 30-second "vignettes" providing information on car care, life insurance, health and other such topics. Each spot would be sponsored by a company in that business. After the spot, the viewer would be provided with a 900 number to get more information from the sponsor on the subject. The call will cost between 50 cents and $2. All three network daytime chiefs point out that daytime TV has never thrived on innovation, however. While putting on a new show or changing the time slot of a failing one can sometimes rescue a prime-time series, moving or canceling a 15-year-old soap opera or favorite game show can spell disaster in daytime. "It's a life-style viewing pattern, rather than: `Honey, what's on tonight?' " CBS' Johnson explained. Johnson added that, while families often watch prime-time shows together, daytime viewers usually watch alone, allowing them to become more attached and involved than they might with a night-time series viewed as the result of a family consensus. The fact that the show airs five times per week, rather than just one, strengthens the habit. So instead of racing to change their schedules, the networks instead hope to infuse new money into daytime by persuading advertisers that, although it may not be reflected in the Nielsen ratings, working women still find time for daytime TV. To this end, ABC recently released two studies contending that the Nielsen ratings, which only measure viewing done in the home, fail to account for nearly three million women who watch soap operas while at work, on communal TV sets in college dorms, in lunch rooms, hospitals and on portable televisions almost anywhere. And all three networks are reminding advertisers that many working women now tape their favorite daytime shows and watch them in the evening. And, said Johnson, advertisers need to know that women who work are also women with money. Hyundai recently became the first auto manufacturer to buy a spot on a soap opera, and others have followed. "It isn't all soap and Hamburger Helper anymore," she said. "The profile of the advertiser is changing, the profile of the audience is changing. It's all in transition now."

Running some by AI ... Brian Frons was the Vice President of NBC Daytime between 1978-1983 Lucy Johnson was the Senior Vice President of Daytime and Children’s Programs for CBS from 1989 to 2003 1. I couldn’t find any information about her being the Vice President of NBC Daytime. Is there anything else I can help you with? Susan D. Lee was the Vice President of Daytime Programming for NBC from 1981-1983 1. Is there anything else I can help you with? Okay, AI has considerable wrong information. No sense continuing there. Lee is wrong. I don't think those are Frons dates. Lucy might be right for CBS, but, ... From the We Love Soaps website https://www.welovesoaps.net/2011/04/brian-frons-as-god.html Broadcasting career Senior vice president (London-based SBS Broadcasting, S.A.) President, Creative Affairs (New World Entertainment) Vice president, Creative Affairs, NBC Productions Vice president of NBC Entertainment Director, Daytime Programming, CBS Entertainment Creative Consultant of All My Children and One Life to Live Head Writer (with Frank Valentini) of One Life to Live (November 29, 2004 to December 10, 2004) Story Consultant of General Hospital Head Writer (with Julie Hanan Carruthers) of All My Children (mid-January 2008 to January 30, 2008) Also from We Love Soaps in an interview with Wesley Eure. Nov. 16, 2009 Pt. 2 Eure interview I knew Fox and NBC were run by gay men at the time, but what was odd about the industry at the time, it was amazing how the gay men were perpetuating the damage. I remember Earl Greenburg — who was a big philanthropist here in Palm Springs, and had the Desert AIDS Project, he did some wonderful work, he's passed away now this last year — but the first time I saw him in Palm Springs, he said, "Didn't I fire you?" He was head of NBC Daytime at the time. I said, "You're an ass." [Known forever that it was an NBC exec who was gay who fired him just never before this, was a name said.] From personal notes: Madeline David was head of NBC daytime January 76 till November 77. In October 79, Orin Tovrov who wrote for The Doctors in its first few years landed a gig as daytime consultant at NBC. Jan. 1976 to Nov. 1977 Madeline David head of NBC Daytime Nov. 1977 Michael Brochman became NBC Daytime Head, replacing Madeline David.

I echo that, as researching recently his name was brand new to me. Also echo how murky their organization seems. Bolen, Line, Silverman, Frons, Susan D. Lee clear but others ... ???

Daily I have beat back one thought: what does Alarr have on Ken?

ClassicDAYS + SFT + AW Hollywood Squares/Match Game Hour with NBC Daytime actors. Wayne Northrup, Dee Hall, John De Lancie, Leann Hunley, David Forsythe, Marcia McCabe, Christopher Rich, Nancy Frangione. https://t.co/PZ1AAruppx

🤔🙄😉 Okay, then I am truly glad that someone liked it.

Included in there is the time when they feared retaliation, so they may not have called their union rep. Just a NIT, but it says more than 25.