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Yea, but we all know Lisa liked her bed time activities and most of the guys that she was with were attractive in a very staid kind of way..( I remember my aunt being all hot for Grant Coleman!!!!) The Dobsons were trying to do a Santa Barabara thing with the strong man married to the sassy lady who didn't take it and I think it would have been fun to watch if Fulton stayed and they had recast Whit with an attractive guy..(Whit was working class self made...they could have found a more rough hewn guy like that who would have rubbed all of Lisa's family and friends the wrong way.) Lisa of course meddling between Whit and his kids and his business...(I remember he didn't like Bob and was friendly with John) the set up was good. Why the hell did Fulton pick that hair color and cut, it made her looks old and uptight. So I was on point when I made the comparison between the McColls and the Capwells? That the McColls were the Dobson's prototype before they went on to create Santa Barbara?

I don't think Tre will ever be boring. I just think that she'll be mellow if anything, which might be a good thing for her. But I don't think Teresa will ever be boring. SN: I am LOVING all of the Cheshire love in this thread as of late! It really is a good season. They are slowly becoming my favorite housewives show!!!

Delusional? Yes. A twat? Yes. But Jill was nowhere near Tre the first 5 seasons. I'm sorry. I know Tre is your girl and your my boo, but we are gonna have to disagree on this. Tre bulldozed over her own family and then fed them to the audience. I have an issue with that. Regardless how one should feel about their family be on a show with them, to the feed them to the mass is just gross. I did grow to like her somewhat in s6 and I think she'll come out a changed person but I cannot forget her actions from the first five seasons of the show. I just cannot.

You know it is true.

Sorry, boo, but Tre was a twat s1-5. The first two seasons, she was a mere pawn and flunky for the Laurita/Manzo clan when she should've stayed neutral. Danielle never had issues with Tre. Tre came for Danielle for no damn reason. And seasons 3-5, Tre was horrible to her family. Yeah, Kathy and Melissa (especially Melissa) weren't angels in the situation but how Tre gave the greenlight for her friends to destroy her family members was gross. To each his own but I think you're grossly misrepresenting her. She was lovable and hilarious from the get go and especially in the first two seasons. Perhaps in Season 3/4 when all this acrimony with Caroline (and "MY NAME IS MELISSA GORGA...MELISSA" came barging in) started to fester she became harder to root for and believe but she's never become a twat or totally unlikeable as was the case with Jill from NY for me. I'm just glad time is flying by and before you know it she'll be out with her precious girls. I'm only sad that Joe has to go in as well because its not going to be easy for him or the girls to not have their dad at special events. Tre > Jill when it comes to being a twat. Jill was nowhere near as vile as Teresa had become.

Yous must be confused poor child. That is my man up for the award....

Do you all think that Lisa might've been attracted to Whit because he was a huge contrast from all the other men she has been with previously? (i.e. being extremely wealthy and worldly)

Sorry, boo, but Tre was a twat s1-5. The first two seasons, she was a mere pawn and flunky for the Laurita/Manzo clan when she should've stayed neutral. Danielle never had issues with Tre. Tre came for Danielle for no damn reason. And seasons 3-5, Tre was horrible to her family. Yeah, Kathy and Melissa (especially Melissa) weren't angels in the situation but how Tre gave the greenlight for her friends to destroy her family members was gross. RHOC: Team Vicki! Yeah, I feel like Vicki might know the truth about Brooks but who cares!! It was no one's business but his and these women used his situation to provide them with a story seeing as they were all lacking this season minus Vicki. And I didn't like how Meghan lead the charge of everyone coming for Vicki and demanding answer from her. She owes none of them anything. I was proud of Vicki and her paying the women dust. And Rhonda (Vicky's brother's girlfriends) is a BOSS. How she flatlined Shannon by bringing up David's affair was hilarious. Shannon couldn't bounce back and all she could do is resort to her typical erratic behavior, which got her nowhere. Vicki still doesn't give a flying f-ck about her. Overall, I am glad that Vicki sees the light. Tonight on WWHL, she finally sees that none of those women are her friends. Not even Tamra. I am also glad that she mended fences with Gretchen. And with Gretchen being brought up time and time again and Alexis having an impact on the reunion next Monday, I get this inkling feeling that we'll see both of them come next season. Talk about Tamra's worst nightmare! Oh and Tamra's baptism was gross! I hate people that use religion on reality TV. It's just gross. When she stepped into that pool, I thought the water was going to boil. A damn heathen. She should've gotten struck by lightening for this farce performance she put on tonight. Tamra will resort back to the same shenanigans come next year. RHOCheshire: Magali and Dean's scene brought me to tears. I love their relationship. It's one that everyone should aspire to. You can see that he genuinely loves his wife and vice versa. Lauren writing a tell-all book is funny. I hope it is better than Tanya's book, which she shat on last season. I personally would keep my body count to myself unlike Lauren plans to. Dawn continues to annoy me this episode. Does she have to hell EVERYONE that she made up with Magali? Let them all figure it out on their own. It's like she told all of them for validation. It makes it even less convincing. Ugh! Lapdog doing a clothing line is laughable. I don't find her fashionable, and what young girl is gonna buy her clothes? I wouldn't be surprised if her target audience are young sluts with aspirations of riding a pole till a sugar daddy comes and saves her. Tanya and her calendar idea for charity is stupid. It was funny that Lauren said her idea was sh-t too. Magali telling those women that they better be on their best behavior or they aren't getting invited was too funny. She put bitches on notice! I cannot wait for Ampika v. Dawn pt 2 next week! Dawn don't want it with Ampika!

Cast your votes for Emmerdale and my husband, Michael Parr, for the NTAs. It's time Emmerdale got the recognition they deserve: http://www.nationaltvawards.com/?utm_source=Emmerdale&utm_medium=social&utm_content=Charley%20Webb&utm_campaign=NTA2016

Thanks! I will. But I'm watching so many of them a day, I'm sure I'll get to them before they get zapped.

Oops! I got it mixed up. Ellen was with Tom. Sorry about that. But I didn't know that she was with David too. That had to be awkward seeing as he played her uncle onscreen.

Thanks, Carl! I am going to have a joy watching those episodes. And I didn't know about Richard/Anne. Was that pre-Anne/Tom Eplin? During? Or post?

Was this the last episode of Meg/Josh in Oakdale until their return in the early 90s? Or is there a bit more of them? I loved how the credits rehashed Josh/Meg's romance from start to finish with Luther Vandross playing in the background. LV's music was like the 'go to' music for soap supercouples in the 80s. I wish soaps still had the budget for music rights because the right slow jam with a supercouple could help put them over with the audience. I wish I would've gotten to see the episodes of Meg finding out that Tonio was in cahoots with James and using that to get out the marriage with him. I can't wait to see where Kirk/Iva/Lenore goes next too. Might I ask who is pestering Lisa & why? And I didn't know that Grant has returned for a short stint in '89. I wonder why the show never tried to bring Grant back for Lisa. Especially in the end. And I am assuming that Duke Kramer is about to come on the scene. Was Rosemary Kramer a retcon or was she an actual character on ATWT during the time Dr. Michael Shea was on the show?

Dare I say it but I think prison might've been the best thing for Teresa. Hopefully, this puts things into perspective and she comes home a better person. Not the twat she was the first five seasons of RHONJ.

Thanks for posting that episode. It was really good. Was this after the Charlotte Greer story? I am actually interested to research and learn more about Maggie and her mother, Joe/Siobhan, & Jack's impending reaction to Rae's info.

Nope. Not yet. But I'm guessing they'll be back around their usual time--the first or second week of Nov like RHOA.

But that isn't hard to do. Maura West can bring the best out of anyone. She has that gift.

I never got personality from SC's Mike. I always felt the two of them were both the same. Both extremely judgmental of other people's actions but their own.

What's with the Eastenders potential cancellation rumors? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a672870/bbc-warns-eastenders-could-be-axed-if-conservative-reforms-are-implemented.html#~pqFbaM6s2b4TYZ

I called it. Watch Gretchen be in the lineup next season. Andy is gonna make sure Vicki has an ally and someone who is formidable to go toe to toe with Tamra. Season 11 is going to be messy....

Mark Collier's Mike was OK but he was just eye candy. Mike never popped as a standalone character. He only excelled because he had spunky female characters like Carly, Rosanna, Molly, and Katie beside his side. Mike was a dull drip all alone. Yeah after the Royce story, Emily went downhill. She remained in limbo for years. I did think that Emily found her niche when became a reporter but that was nixed the final years of the show when she became obsessed with Paul and suffered from baby rabies. Thanks! Thank God they nixed EAS b/c shopping channels would become moot by the time Paul returned in the form of Scott Holroyd. KMH was OK as Emily. Yeah, she'll never be Melanie Smith's Emily but she was passable. I just feel that the writers never knew what to do with her. Yes, she was always slutty but she was a savvy slut with redeeming qualities.

Was pairing Sarah with Paul yet another attempt to try and make the Kasnoffs work? Because if so, it was another failed attempt. I never cared for Mark or Mike, but I didn't mind Sarah though as many did; however, in the era (the 90s) when bad girls reigned supreme, saccharine characters like Sarah were bound to be flops. And EAS? I don't remember this story as a child. Maybe I used to tune Paul and Sarah out during those scene. Well hell, if you weren't the Hughes, Jack, Rosanna, Ben, John or Carly, I really didn't give a f-ck about you during this time.... Didn't Diego rape or violate Emily? If so, was this before that incident? I always thought of Emily around this time being one of many P&G's Vicky Hudson clones (my girl, Carly being another). I feel like they didn't know what route to go with Emily after Marland died. Ben is another character that they didn't know what to do with him. Peter Parros was a joy to watch. So glad that he is getting shine on Tyler Perry's Have and Have Nots even though that show can be a mess at times. And Jane Powell felt more like Penny recast than she did a Lisa recast.

It would have been interesting to see. It's hard to say because his humor in women was either kooky or barely concealed rage and sniping (Marcy, Lilith, Tess). I think the closest may have been his last few years of Julie, and sometimes Emily. I do wish they'd tried to bring her back. They should've! It would've given John something to do, and it might've made most of James' return stories more interesting. Especially the return in the mid 90s during the David Stenbeck era. *shudders*

Do you think that Marland would've captured the essence of Ariel?

http://soapcentral.com/atwt/archives.php I think I would've enjoyed Ariel coming back when Marland took the reigns. I think her presence would've been necessary during James' arc. Plus, I think it would've been interesting to see John/Lucinda/Ariel play off each other. And I wish in the final years of the show, Penny and Don would've been brought back in full-term capacity. Even if the roles were recurring. Don could've easily been paired back with Lisa again. Or they should've brought back Grant. I'm still a bit upset that Lisa didn't get a happy ending.