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Now Chris is backpedaling: This pic is old, buddy. This was shot during the season when she was out shopping with Kandi and Cynthia. It wasn't shown on the show.

So did y'all catch the shade THOTsha threw at Chris on Sunday's episode? Well Chris caught it and replied:

I took it to mean less Val-ish and more that archetype (older woman with acidic barbs). I felt like they lost their way with Val in her last few years so I'm hoping they didn't mean a literal Val... I also agree that the Whites need to GTFO of Home Farm. They've never and will never work there. Characters keep being added in and just keep getting sucked into a black hole. I'd like to just burn it down at this point. With several Whites inside. I just hope someone tells him the show doesn't NEED bitchy cardboard cutouts hissing at each other. Emmerdale isn't that type of show. The only time it was was for a while with Sadie/Charity/Chloe, and you can't recreate that. I think I am just tired of this show trying to recapture the Tates. Especially Kim. That was an anomaly. It won't happen again. Sadie was damn near it with the Kings but even she (as much as I loved her) couldn't recapture it. I like how Natasha was a bit of contrast b/c she was icy cold and not as glamorous as Kim and Sadie were. Maybe they need to go this route if they do another Home Farm family. I just want a good Home Farm family and the Whites aren't cutting it. re: Val--I hope that what it is that they just want another older woman to be on the canvas. I'd prefer they not attempt to copy Val.

I like that he wants to bring back friendships, but a lot of his points made me roll my eyes. The fact that he plans on making Chrissie a 'super bitch' is absurd. She's a weeping willow at best. Now I am supposed to believe that she is some bad ass? I think not. Plus, I do not care to see a bitch fight between Chrissie and Charity. To me, it's probably gonna be a knockoff Charity v. Sadie, and Chrissie is nothing like my beloved Sadie. Both of these broads need to be getting ready for a rest home. Not fighting over money and men, which I am sure it'll be all about. I think it is obvious that Lawrence will probably bite the bullet as we discussed earlier. I am fine with that; however, I need the Whites to move out of Home Farm in the process. They've been a fail Home Farm family. I'd prefer a new family come on a la the Tates, Kings, or Wyldes that bring drama, glitz and glamour, and mayhem. Slap Chrissie/Lachlan into some rinky-dink cottage and move on. I wasn't too thrilled that he said that they were bringing on a new Val-type character. I'd prefer for them to be a bit more original and not try and recapture the glory of a past character. There's only one Val.

I am content with Lawrence going as it'll free Bernice and hopefully, she'll save Andy from being in a dreadful pairing with Chrissie. It's obvious they won't get rid of Lachlan or Chrissie in the near future. I am all for Chas and Cain's mother coming on if she's another maniacal character (a la Emma, Charity, Chrissie....). We have a canvas full already. I think we are about to get Leyla/Jai again too. I'm sure Megan and Sam will be thrown into the mix somehow too.

OMG @DRW50 I was so gonna ask how you felt about Andy and Chrissie. I hate that poor Andy is about to latched onto this whiny sap. I just don't care for her. I didn't appreciate them having Andy bash Robert for wanting a settlement out of their marriage. Given that he covered up that she caused the helicopter crash, she could at least write him a check or something. I found her sticking it to Moira to be petty too. I wanted Moira to reach across the counter and deck her when Charity was using Noah to mess with Moira's emotions. I also don't like it that Charity is willing to give up Moses so quick given her history with Noah and Debbie. You'd think for once that they'd have Charity want to actually raise a child but I guess not. That's why I don't want Charity tossed back into Cain's orbit b/c I feel like she hasn't grown any. She's regressed if anything. While Cain still have his hard edges, he's actually matured with Moira and I love that about him. What are your opinion of Megan wanting to buy back into the business with Leyla? Do you think that Jai might serve an issue for them down the road, or will Leyla opt not to share Megan back her shares? It was also good tonight to see Harriet go on a date and find love post Ashley. While I like Laurel/Ashley, I always did feel bad that Harriet got the short end of the stick.

A lot of the popularity Jill had, especially in the first year, was down to Nancy Addison IMO, as she was one of the most exquisitely beautiful, talented soap actresses around. Her actions and the affair with Frank was just sleazy and the idea of her waiting around years for Frank #1 (who was just a dull middle aged looking man who could barely speak) was laughable. The idea that viewers were supposed to root for their eternal love and that he'd been manipulated into marriage by Delia because he had a hero complex and so on didn't make it any less skeevy. That's likely why they ramped up Delia's nastiness. I read an article once where Ilene Kristen said she had expected a lot more hate from viewers than she ended up getting. I think that's because most of the characters on the show who hated Delia were often insufferable (especially Faith and Mary). Yes, I adore Mary but she can be sanctimonious from what I've went back and watched as of late. I like Siobhan and Pat, as they seem to not be the golden kids likes Frank & Mary, and they typically marched to the beats of their own drums until recasts came in and it seem they started to become preachy like the rest of the Ryans. I like Delia even though she can be childish at time and I never understood the need for her to wanna be apart of the Ryans so desperately. Did she eventually move out of the Ryan's orbit and find solace elsewhere? Jill seems compelling but yeah.... I do find her waiting for Frank to be pathetic. Much like Faith waited for Pat.

Been sitting down and watching a lot of RH as of late and I am wondering why Jill was so beloved by fans during this era when a character like her (the mistress) would be disliked nowadays? I find myself gravitating towards Delia more than Jill.

^ I got that too with Peter Simon. He was too meek (and weak) to be a patriarch. His Ed lacked a backbone and it was jarring seeing him go toe to toe with the likes of Roger.

You're welcome. Claire played a pivotal role in Michelle's adult life though. I just wish they didn't write her into a corner and then send her off as a deadbeat mother yet again. I think Claire could've added so much had she stayed long-term the 2nd run. I fell off with GL by the late 90s but yeah, it seems like after Maureen's death that would have been the best time to return Claire to Springfield. I feel like both GL and ATWT had this in common- the last decade and a half or so of the show's existence, both shows seemed to do Mother/Daughter relationships so poorly after having done so well in the previous decades. I don't think it was just mother/daughter, I think P&G shows started to suck all across the board with generational bonds whether it is familial, friendly, or communal. What made a lot of people love these shows were how they had the chaotic youthful characters but you had a Greek chorus behind the youthful characters to guide and balance them. We didn't have that in the last decade of GL/ATWT, and haven't on any of the remaining shows. Instead, the older characters do stupid sh*t while the younger characters have taken the role as the Greek chorus. We don't have that anymore. We rarely see them interacting and forming bonds. It's all so isolated.

You're welcome. Claire played a pivotal role in Michelle's adult life though. I just wish they didn't write her into a corner and then send her off as a deadbeat mother yet again. I think Claire could've added so much had she stayed long-term the 2nd run.

True but they could just have Jason leave b/c he wants to explore life outside of Weatherfield. It doesn't have to be all doom and gloom. He could've came to the conclusion that he wanted to go and live with his dad for some time.

Claire was brought back in the late 90s/early 00s. Watch this video of the whole history of Claire:

Why kill him? I don't see how it is gonna have long-term impact for the canvas. Just a pointless plot point.

Link to tonight's RHOMelbourne: http://vodlocker.com/2y7nxt62mvos

What?! Tamwar is leaving?! I wish Himesh Patel the best. Damn. I hope this doesn't write Masood into a corner. Losing Nitin Ganatra would be horrible. I couldn't give a damn about Nancy b/c I never cared for her. I do wish Maddy Hill all the best b/c she was too talented to be strapped with a dud character. With the Carters being constantly flops, I hope the new regime realizes that they need to drop this family and move a real family (Sharon/Denny) into the Queen Vic.

RHOBH news: http://www.eonline.com/news/748017/inside-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-reunion-dramatic-apologies-tears-and-and-walk-offs

Oh @Mr. Vixen, I don't think things are going well for Nene/Porsha.... Source: TheShadeRoom (on IG)

Yes they do. I feel like all these characters deserve better.

I hate that sh-t. That's why I hope the new EP scraps anything consisting of Jordan DTC had outlined out. Joivan Wade is one of the best younger actors to be on the show in awhile. They better keep him as long as they can. Writing him into a corner is just stupid.

Looks like Botox Bailey spent the $12 she made on that chitty eyewear on more injections. Bad idea! I truly can't stand your ass sometimes.

I can't with EE tonight. It was just abysmal. DTC recycle the same story twice in one day. First, Gavin was left in the basement to be buried and he got up and escaped. Now Claudette does the same. Yep, it's time for DTC to go. I don't like how they had Jordan reacting tonight too. Thank God for Joivan and Diane b/c they held the climax of this story together. Ronnie rushing to stop Jack's supposed wedding to find out it isn't his was stupid too. I just don't give a damn about Jack/Ronnie. Never have. Never will. Also, if Honey was brought back to be Jack/Ronnie's cheerleader then she can leave the Square again. I always preferred Billy with Lil Mo anyways. Honey was always f-cking annoying to me.

Oooo. Chiiiillleeee.... Yeah.... Bravo need their asses beat for this intro. The theme sucks. The CGI stars.... Exactly. We all know she'll get up in leave when the heat from LVP and Kyle becomes too much.

RHOBH is filming their reunion today:

@Cheap21 @Mr. Vixen @Eric83 @Gray Bunny @frequentsoapfan @ChitHappens @DaytimeFan RHOA reunion trailer released: Oh I am here for Kenya, Matt, Todd, and even Nene getting b-tches together!