NothinButAttitude

^ Sheree does have a temper. But as I've said before, this Kenya v. Sheree rivalry is strictly for cameras. I strongly believe that these 2 made a pact to 'beef,' so they'd keep their peach positions on the show. I bet money these 2 get along very well off camera. When it comes to the OC, Vicki is not going anywhere. She's a Bravo relic. She'll leave when she chooses too. I actually don't find Vicki to be toxic. Kelly either. The toxic party is Heather, Shannon, and Tamra. Those 3 had nothing going on this season, so they had to poke and prod Kelly and Vicki, who carried this season. I don't see anyone getting the boot out of those 5 though. Especially, now that Meghan is supposedly leaving. I think Bravo realizes that drastically changes casts rarely work on these shows. RHOA s5 (with the introduction of Kenya & Porsha) was the only time it was truly successful. The shift of RHONY in s5 nearly killed the show. Same with NJ in s6. Like I've said, if Bravo were smart, they'd keep Kelly/Vicki/TamRat/ShanLoon/Pleather and bring back Gretchen & Lizzie. Gretchen & Lizzie are close friends. Both of them have bones to pick with numerous women on the cast. Both of them are close to Vicki and Kelly. Also, Vicki has been campaigning for their returns. I've always thought the show as stupid in getting rid of Lizzie b/c she was successful (business-wise) and had a great marriage. As you said too, she didn't take crap from anyone and was very observant. Gretchen needs to return for the primary reason to annoy the f-ck out of Heather & Tamra, who both actively wanted her out after s8 and were successful.

I can see Danny Boy Hatchard trying his hand at Broadway if he wanted too. That seems to be up his alley anyways, and I think he'd flourish at it. Danny Boy, Richard, Shaheen, Bonnie, and Shona shined the most. James looked uncoordinated and disinterested. That intro with Danny Dyer...

I am just gonna miss the Masood clan. Besides the Foxes, they were one of the last great families on EE. No other family that has come on since has been able to do the show justice like they have. It is gonna be a big ass gap on the show that is gonna be hard to fill.

@DRW50 I think his goodbyes with Denise were the only thing that touched me. Everything else didn't. I didn't care for Carmel or Jane at all. I always felt both were undeserving of Masood.

I thought Masood's exit tonight was good. I enjoyed the scenes between him and Denise. Just a reminder that the Masoods are officially all off the Square. Just tragic.

I just wanna know why is it OK for Giuliani to make money off speeches to foreign countries (and actually make WAY more than HRC), but it wasn't OK for her to do it either? What's even worse is that he spoke with a terrorist group (MEK) and got paid for it. Such hypocrites...

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I've grown to love to hate the Whites. I don't want them to go yet. I want Diane to lead a lynch mob, torture them, and then they can go. But there are other characters (Kerry) I'd love to see go way before them. I don't want Jimmy to turn to Bernice either. As I've said before, I wish they'd toss Dan in her orbit. I'm over Bernice bedding men that aren't hers. For once, I'd like to see her get a man that isn't attached to anyone or she is attached to anyone. I think she and Dan would be a good pairing. With tonight's episode, why didn't Diane shoot the sh-t out of Chrissie?! I so wanted her to do it. I did love the nod to Sarah tonight as well. Diane is right that Sarah would not like what Robert has turned into.

Well I am with you as I don't find Dan boring. I adore him and wish they'd spread him out more on the canvas. I hope they explore him becoming a paramedic too. Dan is one of the few bright spots on this show. I just over Kerry. It took 2 months flat for me to be over her. I might be overreacting but I am seriously over her. Her acting like a childish twat this past week made it no better. I just want her gone. I'd OK with Paddy/Zak going. Zak using Joanie and Lisa has made me dislike him even more. I've never really cared for Paddy all that much but his handling of the Tess situation did him in for me. I don't care to watch him pine over Rhona, but then again, put him back with her. I'd rather Pierce be single and mingling throughout the village anyways. I'd be all for Harriet/Pierce.

I think the Kerry stuff was stupid. As aforementioned, I am over her. I hope Rishi and Jai nail her ass to the cross, which leads to her leaving the village. She can with Joanie. IMO, the best thing would be for Joanie and Kerry to ride off in the sunset with Kyle in tow. I am not surprised that Jermaine will be gone soon either. They've just never tried to assimilate him into the canvas well. Sucks b/c I feel like he'd great back in his role as the village doctor. I think he also has good chemistry with Megan too. I get this eerie, ominous feeling that ED is about to be like EE and start cutting people. Most likely, Blackburn & Oates characters. I hope Dan & Harriet are spared as I enjoy them.

Oh Lord. The infamous Hadley Prescott story, which I thought did so much damage to Matthew & Amanda as they regressed in their relationship with Carl. I hated that story. Cindy and the fertility statue was stupid too. Again, I felt it just made Cindy a constant groveler and it lessened her as a character.

Well I am over fans like this. They kill a TV show and characters in its process. Did they honestly expect Robron to last forever? This is a soap. I hope the show does not indulge them at all. If the story is there for Robert to move on past Aaron (or vice versa), move on.

IMO, it was disappointing. I think out of his entire regime, I only stories enjoyed Toni's rape/Nick being falsely accused and Paulina's pill addiction. Everything else was blah (to me). He brought on Tyrone, and I think he brought on Lila, which were pluses too. While I still loved and somewhat enjoyed the show around this time, I didn't care for a lot of the crap. Grant was further being made a mustache twirling villain that long needed to be declawed. Cindy started groveling over yet another man (now Grant), which annoyed me as I saw potential in her to grow on her own. Joe's constant berating of Paulina grew tiring to the point I wanted him to be killed off. I totally didn't care about Shane/Vicky/Jake triangle as I felt Vicky deserved to be paired with someone better than both of them. Felicia, Cass, Carl, and Rachel were thrown scraps and stupid stories around this time.

IDK why it is causing meltdowns when it is been established he is bisexual. It is also in Robert's wheelhouse to be an unfaithful, wondering eyed whore. That's just who he is. UK fans are slowly becoming like US fans with these couple ships, which has caused a lot of detriment to our soaps. They just need to chill out and go for the ride.

Good. Racist b*tch needs to exit stage left. She should've never spoke ill will against Michelle Obama.

*sighs* As I've said before, I am over Kerry. I hope that Rishi & Jai win in the end over her stupid a**. God. I am so sick of her. Oh Robert! Why did he let Diane hear that his whole intention of going after Lawrence/Chrissie is to get Home Farm? I hate that they've made this his motivation too.

RHOC: I am so glad that Kelly is unapologetic to these women. It bothers these women (especially Shannon/Heather) to the core that she won't cower to them and I love it. Shannon was so defensive tonight when it came to her marriage. Lady, your husband cheated much like Vicki/Donn did in their marriage. Stop trying to whitewash the situation. You're marriage is doomed and it's obvious. Calling it now that Shannon's story next year (if she's brought back) is her leaving David. Producers were the MVP tonight. I hollered in joy when they presented receipts of TamRat bringing up other folks kids and being violent in the past. What pissed me off though is that Andy didn't hold her feet to the fire about either situations. Kelly should've dug into her more about that too. Heather did herself no justice tonight. She came off as an elitist bitch tonight. Her apology to Kelly was sh-t, and her excuse for leaving the Japanese restaurant was even crappier. One of the joys this season was that Heather finally got exposed to those who were long mesmerized by her. I was never fooled by her as I've always knew she was trashy like other women on the OC; she just has more money than them. Cannot wait until next week when Shannon runs off stage and Vicki/Kelly dig into Heather's a**.

Apollo is engaged while still married to Phraudra Parks! http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/14/apollo-nida-prison-engaged-rhoa/

RHOA: Sheree v. Kenya is a match made in shady Heaven. The exchanges and shade between the 2 is hilarious. As I've said before, I truly believe that these 2 like each other and know they need each other to remain on the show. Good to see Kenya/Phaedra drop their daggers and be civil to each other. It grew tiring watching these 2 battle it out over nothing but unfounded lies. Porsha thinking that Kenya shouldn't've kicked her out is ludicrous. You pulled this woman by her hair. You charged at Cynthia. You attacked Jami. I wouldn't allow you in my house either until you showed me you changed. Momma Joyce is a hoot. She sees what everyone else has long been saying about Phelony. Phelony is a big ass liar and should be sitting right next to Apollo in jail. I thought it was hilarious that Joyce got a talking head too. RHONJ: So glad this is all over. All I gotta say about this half of the reunion is Melissa/Joe were exposed. Chris/Jaq backed their asses in a corner numerous times. Melissa getting all angry and flustered while Jaq remained calm proved it. Just shows that maybe Melissa did orchestrate Jaq v. Tre, so that she wouldn't be the target again. Tre is a dummy. This reunion further highlighted that. She should seriously consider being a mute. Also, when she said that Kathy, Rosie, and her Aunt Maria were a disgrace to her family, I felt sick. No one is whitewashing any of their wrongdoings, but Tre has a major issue with owning her crap. That's why I will NEVER like this b-tch, and I hope Danielle dismantles her ass (if she is brought back) after getting done with Jaq and Melissa.

Tonight just showed how nasty Heavenly, Quad, and Toya are. Heavenly coming at Genise was nasty. She didn't even feel remorseful bringing up the woman's blended family after Genise's husband informed her that their mother had passed. She is a devil. Quad fat shaming her nephew's mother was new low. Who does that? Either help the woman to cook or don't. Don't insult her in the process. It must be sheer hell living with Quad. Toya is a monster. That's why her ass in deep in IRS debt. Mariah should've clobbered Toya's messy ass.

While I loved Lila, I felt that after Frankie was killed off, Cecile should've been the woman Cass ended up with. Also, Cecile being the butt of every joke in her last stint was embarrassing. Along with her putting Maggie in danger to get her trust fund. Having watched clips/episodes of Cecile from the 80s, that seems even farfetched for her to do that to Maggie. Iris remaining in jail as long as she did was stupid. They should've brought Iris/Carmen Duncan back around '97 when the show skidded off the tracks and they had Carl obsessively feuding with Grant for the 100th time. Jamie should've been brought back around that time too to take over the hospital instead of bringing on Bobby Reno, who was garbage casting coup and stupid character. I've always felt Ryan should've just remained in a coma until PMV wanted to return, which was he following year. Vicky with Bobby and later Jake was just horrible. I always looked at Vicky with major side eye for marrying Jake after the history of him raping Marley. I bought their tense friendship but never could support that pairing.

I do like Cain ... when he is not with Charity. I'll go check it out! I need as much distraction and escapism I can after these last few days.

So basically the whole story arc was to kill off the Black character?

That is one cheesy ad with Sharon Gabet in it. That would not attract me as a viewer and get me to watch. Especially, if I was a fan of Raven/EON. Poisonous dust? Egyptian tombs? Jesus. I see why AW was probably flailing around this time. This was not a story I could see being told on a P&G soap. This just wreaks of an ABC daytime soap story (preferably GH or OLTL at the time). Even DAYS. Not AW. So weird that ATWT was bouncing back around this time with simple, realistic storytelling while GL, SFT, and AW weren't. P&G should've picked up on this and sent a mandate to all the shows to stick to what they did best--human drama and family relationships. Thank God AW & GL bounced back by the end of the 80s.

I love Pete & Leyla. I hope this is something that they invest in long-term. I feel like these are some of the many characters that get tossed nothing. I think they are hot together. I think Laura Norton is good too, but as you said, I am tired of watching her doing dumb sh-t and degrade herself, which is something a girl of Victoria or Belle's age would do. It's embarrassing to watch Kerry do it along with groveling over a man. I don't even want Dan/Kerry revisited at this point. I'd like to see Dan with some like Bernice or Megan. I thought Kerry/Sam would've been interesting until she dogged him out and hurt his feelings.