Paul Raven

May 2000 Veteran NBC daytime executive Susan D. Lee is leaving the network, and Sheraton Kalouria is joining it to oversee NBC's daytime soap operas. Kalouria joins from ABC, where he had served as vice president of marketing and promotion for the daytime division since 1998. Kalouria will be responsible for NBC's two daytime dramas (Days of Our Lives and Passions) and will head development and strategic planning for daytime dramas. Lee had been with NBC for 17 years, most recently as senior vice president of daytime programming.

An overview of the major cast changes for GL beginning 1980 with Marland's arrival. 1980 IN Kelly Morgan Jennifer Bea Nola Vanessa Henry Joe Derek Tim -SORASED character from Dobson era Andy- recast charcter from Dobson era. OUT Roger Renee short term Marland charcter And these Dobson charcters Mark Greg Ann Peter Elizabeth Lucille Holly 1981 Doug Marland headwriter IN Quint Carrie Josh Tony Trish Lesley Ann OUT Joe Andy And these Dobson charcters Diane Ben Rita Barbara Adam Steve Lainie 1982 Marland headwriter till September when Pat Falken Smith and the L Viginia Browm finish out the year. IN Mark Maureen Helena Brenda/Ivy Rebecca/Mona under Pat Falken Smith? Phillip SORASED by L Viginia Browne Rick SORASED By L Virginia Browne OUT Jackie Carrie dropped by L Viginia Browne Ivy Sara Tim 1983 L Virgina Browne continues as headwriter followed by Pam Long/Richard Culliton the Pam Long solo IN under L viginia Browne Clay Suzanne Under Long/Culliton HB Mindy Annabelle Warren Lillian Billy Claire Bradley Beth Reva Jim OUT Jennifer Clay Suzanne Morgan Amanda Justin Helena

I know there is a lot of talk about the Daytime Emmys but the nominations/judging has always been so inconsistent and suspect, that I wonder what value they have ever had? It certainly didn't pay off in ratings for a best show winner, or opportunities for actors (you never saw Daytime Emmy winners being sought for primetime or even other shows.) It just seem to be an ego boost for certain producers and some (deserved) recognition for certain actors and writers etc but that's it. Especially when episodes submitted were written just as Emmy material and not always indicative. I would have jury members be required to watch a specified random week of shows to get a better flavor for each, in addition to submitted episodes. That would at give a broader indication of the acting, writing etc than purely Emmy bait.

Moved this post about Daytime Emmys to the general discussion thread

You would think TPTB would recognize that one of SFTs big problems in that era was the constant change in direction and cast changes. As @dc11786 pointed out, there was a reveal about Elan's parentage that was needlessly changed. If there were new writers there should have been a mandate to tweak what was there rather than cast purges. Too many new characters. Of course there were characters available who could have been brought on to strengthen the core. Gary and Danny Walton for example. Laine Adamson returning. An earlier (and better) return for Patti with teen kids. Maybe when the realized Louan wasn't loved, maybe Liza could have been rested for a while. So many possibilities.

Exactly -with Kyle and Billy butting heads over the direction/marketing etc and Jack trying to be peacemaker as his father once did.

Music and direction could elevate the final scene of an episode.

SOD critique of GL from 81, well into Marland's run.

@chrisml Thanks for this and all the other articles you've been posting.

HTSAM followed AW at 3.30 where it failed to hold onto AW's rating. When AW expanded HTSAM was moved to 1.30 up against ATWT. Then a few months later DOOL expanded and took over the 1.30 slot eliminating ATWT from the line-up. So I would say YES. Moving HTSAM to 1.30 was the death knell for an already failing soap.

Palace Guard had a 2 hr premiere Fri Oct 18 1991. It ranked #74 7.4/14 Competitition from 9-11pm ABC Perfect Strangers #47 11.0/20 Baby Talk #58 9.7/17 20/20 #32 13.2/25 NBC Matlock 2hr 8-10 #28 14.0/26 Reasonable Doubts #62 9.0/17 FOX UFO Report:Sightings #74 7.4/13 Palace Guard was last in its timeslot for all 2 hrs. CBS aired 2 more episodes before it was dumped for specials during Nov sweeps.

Jan could be Vanessa's sister -Vanessa married well and moved up, Jan was a single mom that struggled. Or Derek could be Vanessa's brother. Smitty related to Vanessa or Pamela etc Just tying some of those isolated characters together. Hayley needs more to do. She seems to have accepted Bill's request not to return to work. Let's see her isolated at home. What is she doing with herself? Who could she befriend? I still like the idea of Anita checking up on her and them forming a tentative friendship. Bill would be annoyed when he hears about Anita visiting, crosses paths with Anita and she sees she's looking out for that young woman. Bill v Anita would be a good watch. Bill might even decide to use it to his advantage.

You have nothing to apologize for. Placing that link in the Santa Barbara thread was the appropriate place for it.The context made perfect sense.

I think they got off on the wrong foot with Vanessa. She came across to me as a little ditzy, not a focused professional business woman. The whole botoxed blonde persona. With a little tweaking, she would be fine as Nicole's friend. The other thing was we saw Dani confiding in her long before she had a scene with Nicole so that was confusing.

Thank you. It all seems so obvious, but Josh is more interested in media companies that produce nothing. Surely the desired audience would be more interested and relate to cosmetics? And it's more believable that Jabot could operate in the 'real' world than Billy's claims that so far non-existent Abbott Communications would be a leader in the field? That's laughable. We have seen Jabot running for decades so the credibility is there. It's as much of a legacy character as the Abbotts themselves.

Some comments on the Marland interview. His comments in bold. He seemed to go full bore pushing Kelly, Nola and the 'young' group. Not a mention of other characters apart from his beloved Carrie.That sort of fitted in what happened onscreen as one by one most of the Dobson characters either left (Holly, Rita, Lucille, Elizabeth) or were sidelined. Fair enough I suppose as he admitted a preference for his own characters and maybe the mandate was to push the youth aspect. “Now wait a minute. When you started watching Guiding Light, how old were you? How old was Ed Bauer? How old was Mike? They were the same age as the people you are now complaining about. I think one difference is that Mike and Ed were part of the core family whereas Kelly and Morgan were not really connected (retcon of Kelly being Ed's godson notwithstanding) Now had Kelly been Billy Fletcher and Peggy brought back for appearances older viewers might have been more interested/invested. I don't think the divorce rates on soaps are out of sync with society today. Every character on GL (bar Bert) had been divorced-some more than once, so not representative of society in general unless the divorce rate was 100% Perhaps that I didn't fight harder with the network's decision to drop some of the older characters. If that decision hadn't been handed down to me, I would have worked harder to find them something to do. The trouble was Adam, Barbara and Steve had no links to the current canvas. All their children were gone. And those vets would have been expensive. Maybe if they had been offered and accepted recurring, they could have stayed. Yes I do, in fact. I created the first black characters on GH. I'm going to bring a minority family onto Guiding Light some time soon. I'm working on a storyline now. Doug did not introduce the first black characters on GH. That was back in the 60's. I guess he may have meant in recent times. He'd been at GL for two and a half years and no black characters. There had been plenty of time to get something happening.Once he left Clay Tynan and his mother were brought on. I've approved every new character who has come onto the show, even if other people didn't want him in the role. I think the reverse occurred when Kristen Vigard was fired. They went with a pretty California blonde. I can't imagine he was in favor of Jennifer Cooke, same when Carrie Mowery was cast as Jackie. Allen Potter even admitted Cooke was lacking but she had the right look. As far as Elizabeth Taylor is concerned, I think that to bring her on as anybody but Elizabeth Taylor is wrong. (Miss Taylor had appeared as Helena Cassadine on GH) People believe soap actors are real not actors. Suddenly there's Elizabeth Taylor on the show playing someone else. I really think it explodes the 5 day a week reality and the believability of the show. Mmmm I wonder if ET had wanted to appear on GL he would say that. Her appearance as Helena was part of a big event and it was a limited thing. I think most people were interested to see her as a soap character. As for believing soap actors are real, then having Geraldine Court for example turn up wouldn't viewers be like "Why is Ann from The Doctors here ?or Tracy Quartermaine? That argument doesn't hold.

You should check out the Soap Hoppers thread and/or the Cast lists and Character Guide thread. The most comprehensive ATWT cast list and actor soap roles on the internet. Way better than IMDB etc.

As i understand it, Jane signed a 1 year contract. I imagine she negotiated a good salary as she had made a big impression on GH and would be considered a 'get' especially with the thinking that seemed to believe she might lure GH viewers. The deal was that if all parties were happy, she would sign on for another year. At the end of that first year Doug and Jane were happy to continue. Carrie would receive treatment and integrate her alters. I guess the conclusion would be bittersweet as Carrie would decide to leave Ross after causing him so much heartache etc But Allen Potter (and possibly CBS and or P&G)felt that the Carrie story had not boosted the ratings and I'm sure continuing would have meant a pay rise for Jane (as is the norm). So Potter exercised his option not to negotiate a new contract. Doug was pissed and this may have been the culmination of other disagreements with Potter so he quit also. He had already been through this with Gloria Monty.

I understand about the sets, which is why having a number of characters at Jabot would mean that the sets could be up all week, used by various characters. And it would make sense instead of co workers meeting at a restaurant.

Why not have Jack, Billy and Kyle work at Jabot -the family business? A couple of office sets are that's needed. And assorted other characters eg Sally,Mariah could work there and interact, thus setting up business/family rivalries. And instead of nonsensical/vague business stories, they could deal with issues related to that business. Trying to stay relevant in a fast changing marketplace. Deciding what direction to go in. Maybe having to scale back and get rid of Marchetti and any other offshoots. Using influencers to push product and dealing with fallout when one of them does/says something controversial. Kyle may have pushed to get this person on board and now Billy uses that against him. Drop all the media companies and the restaurant workplaces. I don't watch enough to know who works where. I assume Nate, Devon, Audra and Lily all work together. Is that a media company? Victor, Nikki, Victoria, Adam, Claire all work at Newman I assume. Chelsea, Mariah and Sally work where? Daniel? Tessa?

I really should let this go but... Yes,this thread pertaining to a primetime show stays in the primetime thread. If you want to discuss Berrengers and/or The Monroes -cancelled soaps- then you can do so in the Primetime Soaps thread in the Cancelled Soaps section (where both of those shows have been mentioned) OR start separate threads for them as has happened with Flamingo Road, Secrets of Midland Heights etc in the Cancelled soaps section. Seems crystal clear to me.

It also means there are fewer options for future romances. And we still have yet to see various family members interacting one on one and exploring their relationships. I would like to see Ted and Bill meet up at the bar for example and catch up. They were brothers in law for years and both outside the Dupree clan. What was their relationship like over the years? Would Ted be more sympathetic to Bill? What about Martin/Dani? etcc. Seeing some of the characters out of their story bubble could be interesting. Maybe tying some other characters together would have been a good idea. Derek could be Vanessa's brother or Ashley Smitty's sister.

Again, why would this be in the primetime soap section? Palace Guard was a primetime series and this is the place for it. I don't believe there is a current thread for Berrengers or The Monroes, so there is an opportunity to begin new threads for them, or continue placing content about them on the Primetime soaps section.

The info on Palace Guard was posted in the Santa Barbara thread already before a separate thread was made. That was an appropriate place as Marcy Walker was on SB when Palace Guard came to be. A new thread was not necessary. Info on The Monroes, Berrengers etc has been posted in the Primetime Soaps thread and again I do not feel a new thread needed to be created.

Impressed with Doug's acting-funny how some actors shine more than others. Speaking of which Derek is still totally cyborg. Even him picking up a coffee cup was stilted. He was back at the hospital b/c a colleague was injured, previously he was injured(nothing came of it) Who will be injured next to have him return to Garland? I know that is Kat's look but her outfits annoy the hell out of me, I'm still not sure what she does-how is she earning $$$ -Only Fans? As for her and Chelsea talking up Samantha as a teen model for 'the purse line' when she looks like a dowdy 30 yr old.. As for a spa set being expensive, we'd only need to see the reception with a small office to the side. No biggie. No sets for Vanessa, Martin and Naomi workplaces is disappointing. Maybe in time.